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Title: Colclough-Turner??
Post by: tree1110 on Wednesday 28 September 11 00:35 BST (UK)
I am a newbie and have a relative that came from Wexford Ireland but can't find anything on him. His name was Edward Haycock Colclough-Turner. I figured his mom was a Colclough and his dad a Turner and they joined the names because there aren't any others like this that I came across. He was born about 1766 married Jane Amelia Gowan who was born 1778 and his daughter Francis Colclough-Turner and her husband Ogle Robert Gowan moved to Canada. Now, perhaps you've noticed the 'Gowan' name. Both Ogle Robert Gowan parents and Francis Colclough-Turner's gparents are the one and only John Hunter Gowan...kind of an odd intermixing. Anyway, the Colclough's I understand still live in Wexford. I hope to take my very first trip to Ireland next year and actually meet some of these people. If anyone has info on this Colclough-Turner or, if I'm wrong and I have the wrong name, if anyone knows who Francis Colclough-Turner's father was...please let me know. Thanks so much! Trina
Title: Journey to Wexford
Post by: tree1110 on Wednesday 14 March 12 03:10 GMT (UK)
Hi- I wondered if there was a good place to look for one of my ggg grandfather's records. My gggg grandfather was john hunter gowan and I have a rare opportunity to travel to Ireland at the end of April. I'll be there a whole month (and am very excited) to try and find out more about one Edward Haycock Colclough-Turner. I can find absolutely no record of him, but his daughter Francis Colclough-Turner married Ogle Robert Gowan my ggg grandfather and jhg's son. I have a huge amount of info on the gowans and all of their exploits, although I hope to visit Mt. Nebo (Mt St. Benedict) or contact family while I am there. the main person of mystery is this Edward Colclough-Turner to me. The hyphenated name completely flumoxes me and he's proving to be quite the ghost when it comes to information. If you know anyone that might be family, or knowledgable about this family I'd love to meet with them while I'm there. Any information or meeting with people who know OF these people would be my greatest pleasure. Please let me know if you have a source in Wexford, or Gorey or that area that I might sit down with over a beer or tea and just talk with. Thanks so much you guys.

Moderator Note : Merged with previous topic on the same subject
Title: Re: Journey to Wexford
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 14 March 12 08:30 GMT (UK)
Previous thread:

John Hunter GOWAN (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,332845.msg4146497.html#msg4146497)
Title: Re: Colclough-Turner??
Post by: tree1110 on Wednesday 14 March 12 17:11 GMT (UK)
aghadowey- As I said, I have tons on John Hunter Gowan and have most of the info I need to explore about him, but thanks anyway.
Title: Re: Journey to Wexford
Post by: shanew147 on Wednesday 14 March 12 18:06 GMT (UK)
Hi- I wondered if there was a good place to look for one of my ggg grandfather's records. My gggg grandfather was John Hunter Gowan and I have a rare opportunity to travel to Ireland at the end of April. I'll be there a whole month (and am very excited) to try and find out more about one Edward Haycock Colclough-Turner. I can find absolutely no record of him...

I'm not sure what type of records you have already located or are looking for on John Hunter Gowan, and Edward Haycock Colclough-Turner ...but your dates are are probably a little early for parish records in the area. If these families were relatively well off then there could be mention of them in property records..e.g. Registry of Deeds, Estate records etc


Shane
Title: Re: Colclough-Turner??
Post by: shanew147 on Wednesday 14 March 12 18:48 GMT (UK)
found a reference to a article on the Colclough surname that might be worth trying to locate -

  Journal of the Wexford Historical Society No. 10, 1984-1985,
  Editor B. Colfer

   (1) 'The Colclough Family' by Sean M. Cloney
   The first member of this family to settle in Co. Wexford, in about 1540, was
   Anthony Colclough, an officer in the army of Henry VII. Tintern Abbey was
   their home for almost 450 years until 1960, when Miss L. M. B. Colclough
   presented the building to the Irish Nation. It is currently being restored.
   ....

As well as the South Wexford / Tintern references I came across mentions of a few other locations in the county where there there were people with the surname.

extract from Irish Provincial Directory 1788 :

  Corporation of Enniscorthy - Sir Vesey Colclough, portrieve.

  two (of the 10) free Burgess of the town have the surname :
   Adam Colclough, Esq. , Richard Colclough, Esq.

also found a reference, without a date, to a Mary Anne Colclough, daughter of Col. Dudley Colclough of Duffrey Hall, Co. Wexford.



Shane
Title: Re: Colclough-Turner??
Post by: tree1110 on Wednesday 14 March 12 18:52 GMT (UK)
Thanks so much for your information. I know the Colclough's were a very powerful family in Wexford, although I don't know if they are really related or not since the name is a hyphenated name. Is it a Turner? Is it a Colclough?...who knows. I plan to do an in depth search through the Dublin Library and in Wexford but I know the best information is usually word of mouth and tales from those who have lived in the area for generations. Don't even know if any of the Gowan's are even still around or, for that matter, any of the possibly related Colclough's. These people would have the family history practically committed to memory and I really would like to reconnect with them. So I'm fairly lost as to where to start, as you see....
Title: Re: Colclough-Turner??
Post by: tree1110 on Wednesday 14 March 12 18:54 GMT (UK)
Just read your other post. You are a jewel! I have read up on quite a few of the Wexford Colclough's and have never been able to find a link, but plan to do a lot of exploring while I'm there. Any ideas why they would hyphenate a name? I had heard once that sometimes a suitor would be required by the father in law to take on the family name as a requisite to marriage. Is this true?
Title: Re: Colclough-Turner??
Post by: shanew147 on Wednesday 14 March 12 18:56 GMT (UK)
as you say it's possible that Colclough part of the name derived from his mother or other relation, or it could have been intended as a middle name rather than a double barreled surname.

Sometimes these originated from outside the family - e.g. as part of an inheritance, or after someone prominent. Slightly later dates than your guy, I have a person with the middle names Paden Powell - you can guess when he was born...



Shane
Title: Re: Colclough-Turner??
Post by: tree1110 on Wednesday 14 March 12 21:48 GMT (UK)
I do appreciate all of your help...I'll keep looking.