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Title: Grahams at castlemilk
Post by: islaymcc on Wednesday 14 March 12 07:29 GMT (UK)
Hi,
I,m looking for any info on a Graham who supposedly was Laird at castlemilk in the 1700s.
Title: Re: Grahams at castlemilk
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 14 March 12 23:55 GMT (UK)
What do you know already?

Jamjar
Title: Re: Grahams at castlemilk
Post by: islaymcc on Thursday 15 March 12 04:32 GMT (UK)
Hi
Hugh MacDiarmid the scottish poet (Christopher Murry Grieve)Says in one of his books.That his mothers gr gr grandfather had been laird of Castlemilk, His Mother was a Graham.And her father is my great grandfather.I have traced my tree back to 1813 to Andrew Graham, bastard son Of David Graham,But cant find any more.So this May be a new lead for me?
Title: Re: Grahams at castlemilk
Post by: Jamjar on Thursday 15 March 12 05:11 GMT (UK)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmunnock

Jamjar
Title: Re: Grahams at castlemilk
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 15 March 12 09:30 GMT (UK)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmunnock

Jamjar

Is that not a reference to Castlemilk in Glasgow.(also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castlemilk )   I'm wondering if islaymcc might be thinking of Castlemilk which lies just south of Lockerbie and north of Elcclefechan - http://www.explorebritain.info/locality-dumfries-and-galloway-castlemilk-ny1577

This links to the Buchanan-Jardine  family:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buchanan-Jardine_Baronets

I've not found a  ref to the Grahams of Castlemilk or Castle milk so far


gnu



Title: Re: Grahams at castlemilk
Post by: islaymcc on Thursday 15 March 12 17:30 GMT (UK)
Hi ,
Im  thinking it maybe from his mothers side,she was a carruthers.
Yes and Castlemilk Lockerbie
   thanks for your help
Title: Re: Grahams at castlemilk
Post by: Skoosh on Thursday 15 March 12 22:03 GMT (UK)
The Lairds of Castlemilk, Glasgow, were Stewarts.

Skoosh.
Title: Re: Grahams at castlemilk
Post by: islaymcc on Friday 16 March 12 03:05 GMT (UK)
Hi Thanks
Castlemilk, Dumfries-shire is where my intrest is.
Title: Re: Grahams at castlemilk
Post by: Gadget on Friday 16 March 12 09:14 GMT (UK)
After a bit more searching ~

Mentioned here:

http://www.old-kirkcudbright.net/landowners/mckerlie.asp

If you do a Find 'Castlemi', you'll get to a ref of it being owned by the Lidderdale family (about half way down the page) in the 18th century - much before the Jardines

The current house is a Grade A listed building built in 1865 http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/sc-16888-castlemilk-st-mungo

More on the Jardines, where to stay, vets, etc. but,  again,  nothing so far on Grahams or Carruthers.


gnu
Title: Re: Grahams at castlemilk
Post by: Gadget on Friday 16 March 12 09:27 GMT (UK)
The National Archives of Scotland http://www.nas.gov.uk/onlineCatalogue/  have docs which refers to Maxwell of Castlemilk in 17C but no ref to Graham or Carruthers with the search term

You could have a look yourself  as there are quite a lot of docs returned from the search.


gnu
Title: Re: Grahams at castlemilk
Post by: Gadget on Friday 16 March 12 09:37 GMT (UK)
Have you got a list of the surnames of all of Elizabeth Graham's great great grandfathers - there would be a few more than just Graham and Carruthers (female lines as well)  and it would save me reconstructing her tree to find them all  :-X


gnu
Title: Re: Grahams at castlemilk
Post by: Gadget on Friday 16 March 12 10:05 GMT (UK)
I've looked at some available trees and at Elizabeth's  great grandparents' level, I have: Graham, Young, Dixon, Carruthers, Byers, Johnston but can't get back any further without a lot of work. Given there is at least one other illegitmate line, it could be that this one links to the Jardines or Lidderdales  :-\


gnu
Title: Re: Grahams at castlemilk
Post by: islaymcc on Friday 16 March 12 18:56 GMT (UK)
Hi, Thanks for your efforts,It was just a small glimmer of hope ,with my Graham tree.