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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Pembrokeshire => Topic started by: nmcasey on Monday 12 March 12 02:07 GMT (UK)
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Does anyone have information on a "Charles Warlow " who
married a "Mary Thomas"
Charles died in 1876 and is buried in Pembroke Dock Cemetery
Regards
NC
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What information is it that you seek ??
Sorry to disappoint but there is no Charles Warlow buried at Llanion Cemetery P.D. Llanion Cemetery came into being in 1868 following the churchyard clearance Act of Parliament and the 1st burial took place there in 1872.
There is the burial of a Mary Warlow 18 Nov 1886 in plot G. 249. However headstones in Sections A~G at Llanion where removed to complete the circular feature in the cemetery that can be seen on Google Maps. The headstones have been placed in no particular order as removed from sections, therefore one needs to search the whole feature everytime a headstone from Section A~G is sort(if the headstone survives), it is a long walk ~ I know from a number of occasions.
From my database of all surviving headstones of the Cemetery at Park Street P.D. I note the following ;
Elizabeth Warlow died 07 Jul 1854 aged 76 yrs the wife of Charles Warlow and daughter in law to Elizabeth relict of Francis Warlow.
In the same grave is Mary Warlow died 02 Dec 1867 aged 53 yrs
Elsewhere in the same cemetery is James Warlow died 02 Apr 1865 aged 68 yrs and in the same grave is Esther Warlow aged 77 yrs died 06 Apr 1871 the wife of James Warlow.
Park Street Cemetery was closed down to new burials in circa 1868 to 1872(The same Act of Parliament). However if your family had a plot within the cemetery then burials where still allowed, the last currently known as being in 1910.
The new town of Pembroke Dock began life under the name Paterchurch Dock in 1814, but did not have parish registers until Pembroke Dock St John began services in circa 1844. Although there were many and varied non-conformist chapels taking place in private houses and established chapels long before 1844.
The established church of the time for the area of Paterchurch(on which the town of Pembroke Dock was built) was Pembroke Town St Mary. I can confirm from my transcription of all parish registers of Pembroke St Mary and Pembroke St Michael for the period 1711 to the 1950’s that Charles did not marry circa 1798 (a wide period of years either side) at either church.
For your interest I note the mrge of a Charles Warlow of Nolton to Mary Thomas at Lambston 19 Feb 1835.
Rgds
Orielbenfro
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1851 Census
6 South Brewer Street,
Pembroke St Mary, Pembrokeshire
HO107/2476/438/67
Charles WARLOW, 43, Head, Mar, Shipwright, born Nolton
Mary, 36, Wife, Mar, born Newton
Elizabeth, 73, Mother, Widow, Shipwrights Widow, born Nolton
Next Door:
JAMES Warlow 54 and Wife ESTHER 55 and Family.
1841 Census
Nolton Haven,
Nolton, Pembrokeshire
HO107/1449/18/Nolton
FRANCIS Warlow, 60, Schoolmaster
Elizabeth, 60
Sarah EVANS, 15, F/S
George MORRIS, 20, Ag Lab
Charles DAVIES, 30, Engineman
All born In County
Death Reg;
FRANCIS Warlow, June 1842, Haverfordwest, 26 437
Trish :)
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Just to save any confusion. South Brewery Street or the modern 'Brewery Street' is in the town of Pembroke Dock and not in the town of Pembroke.
By 1851 Pembroke Dock St John/Garrison & Dockyard Chapel carried most (but certainly not all) established church events for the inhabitants of the town of "The Dock".
Brewery St, along with Laws St, North St, Queen St among others would only loose their North and South preamble with the house renumbering of circa 1890's to 1900's.
It would take officaldom at least another 20+ years to recognise the parish of Pembroke Dock St John, until which time it continued to attribute, wrongly, the streets of The Dock to the parish of Pembroke Town St Mary.
Rgds
Orielbenfro
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Well I got the information about "Charles Warlow death off
a family tree that some else put on line and they put down that he died in 1876 and buried in Pembroke Dock Cemetery.
So I went and checked the free BMD Index and there was a
"Charles Warlow" died 1876 in Pembroke he must have been
buried some where else in Pembroke.
Regards
Nc
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Nc
You like so many others misunderstand Registration Districts on Free BMD.
Pembroke Registration District covers every death registered in the approximately area based on the whole of the old hundred of Castlemartin.
I recommend you click on the word "Pembroke" in Free BMD, just to see how many locations are covered from Angle in the west to Tenby in the East and not just Pembroke or Pembroke Dock.
Free BMD index, records the registry office within a registration district at which a death is recorded not and never at which a burial takes place. If I may give you an example. My ancestor resided at Saundersfoot, St Issells. His death is registered at Abergavenny where he was visiting with his daughter. His burial took place at Tenby Old Cemetery.
So no "he must have been buried some where else in Pembroke" is totally incorrect. Take it from someone who has over 900 headstones from Llanion, all surviving headstones from Park St, recorded all headstones from Pembroke St Michael churchyard, has about 100+ headstones from the Pembroke St Michael Cemetery and lives on the doorstep .
If only all information on all Family Trees on the net where infallible and for that matter information from researchers who supply info in good faith and have later been proven to be wrong, but sorry not in this case(I hope).
Rgds
Orielbenfro
Pembrokeshire Military Headstones 1722 to 2008
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Orielbenfro
I take your point.
Regards
Nc
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Please bear with me, what I failed to add previous is that I have an idea that I want to follow up to see if I can locate a burial entry if not his burial location.
I will let you know of any outcome.
Rgds
Orielbenfro
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I was up at the Record Office and did a bit of searching and came up with the following ;
Pembroke Dock St John Burials 1876
Charles Warlow of Pembroke Dock buried 29 Aug 1876 aged 69 yrs.
I can only surmise that he was not buried in the same grave as Elizabeth or Mary at Park St Cemetery, and that his headstone no longer survives and therefore is no in my Park Street database. He was clearly not buried at Llanion Cemetery.
Hope this helps
Rgds
Orielbenfro
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Just a small correction
South Brewery Street is in fact the modern Charlton Place.
The modern Brewery Street was named North Brewery Street
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Could anyone lookup for me pembroke dock St Mary burials for a Patrick Noon who died in December 1906 . his children Mary 1886 Caroline 1883 Catherine x2 1879 and 1880 and wife Esther ( post 1901 )may also be buried there .
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The link for Pembrokeshire Cemetries is http://www.pembrokeshire.gov.uk/content.asp?id=7224 (http://www.pembrokeshire.gov.uk/content.asp?id=7224)
A search for Noon surname in the database give the following list. If you need help in finding more details in the database let me know.
Surname Forename(s) Date of Burial Cemetery
NOON CAROLINE G 29/06/1883 Llanion Cemetery
NOON CATHERINE M 13/05/1879 Llanion Cemetery
NOON CATHERINE M 22/07/1880 Llanion Cemetery
NOON CHARLES EDWARD 08/01/1962 Llanion Cemetery
NOON ELIZABETH 22/05/1940 Llanion Cemetery
NOON ERNEST PATRICK 24/02/1977 Llanion Cemetery
NOON FREDERICK 05/01/1904 Llanion Cemetery
NOON JOHN EDWARD 08/01/1904 Llanion Cemetery
NOON JOHN EDWARD 28/01/1914 Llanion Cemetery
NOON MILDRED MAY 10/05/1995 Llanion Cemetery
NOON PATRICK 02/01/1907 Llanion Cemetery
NOON PHYLLIS MARY 12/11/1980 Llanion Cemetery
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Thankyou for your prompt reply Mike. Could you possibly look on the index to see if Esther Noon was buried anywhere else in the county as she was originally from Dale . Also do you know if the headstones for Patrick and family are still at the cemeteryand and if there are entries in the register for Mary d. 1886 and Sarah Bowen (daughters from Esthers first marriage)
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The list of names I posted are the only ones that match a search for Noon in the database
Further detail for Patrick is
Burial Information:NOON, PATRICK
Record Number: 5365665
Date of Burial: 02/01/1907
Place of Burial: Llanion Cemetery
Grave Number: 148
Grave Section: A
Grave Row:
Section A of the cemetry is I believe a part that has been 'restyled' Sections A - G were all cleared and surviving headstones placed in a circular pattern. If you use Google Maps and search for Pembroke Dock Llanion Cemetery and then look at the satellite image you will be able to see the circular pattern. Unfortunately the headstones weren't laid out in order just higgledy piggledy so finding a headstone, if there, and without a large slice of luck, needs a lot of patience.
You should be able to do the database search yourself if you use the link I posted. I'd be interested to know if it doesn't work.
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Thankyou again Mike and yes the database does work I didn't realize how searchable it was. I have also discovered more Noon children than i knew existed as not on census all in the same grave although Patrick is seperate and the Bowen children elsewhere in the graveyard.
Will try to visit and search for the headstones .
Many thanks for your help.