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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Dublin => Topic started by: Maystan on Saturday 10 March 12 20:45 GMT (UK)
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I have a death certificate which states....in the District of Louth City, Union of Louth Dublin (or is this South Dublin)? in the Co of City of Dublin.
Address of deceased is 17 Bloomfield Avenue. My question is, would this appear that the deceased died at Louth & lived at Bloomfield Ave. but what town. I see Blackrock where I know the deceased resided at one time but he was also married at Rathmines. Deceased is buried at Mt. Jerome.
I am confused. ???
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that district information doesn't really make any sense... maybe two certs got stuck joined together during the photocopying ?
What's the name, year/quarter, and age on the cert ?
There's a Blackrock in Co. Louth as well as Co. Dublin..
Deaths, like Births and marriages, were supposed to be registered in the district in which they took place.
Shane
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Death certs usually include just two addresses - the place of death, and the address for the informant. Sometimes if the death took place in a location like a hospital a 'home' address can be included, usually under the name of the deceased.
Bloomfield Avenue is just north of the Grand Canal and close to Rathmines, and would be in the Registration District of Dublin South. The correct title for these districts are "Superintendent Registrars Districts", and these are equivalent to Poor Law Unions.
Shane
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Looking at the cert. again, it must be South, not Louth. S looks like an L. If Bloomfield is just north of Grand Canal & close to Rathmines, it would be city of Dublin, not Louth.
That solves the problem & thank you for your help.
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I hope im not throwing a spanner in the works but the Royal Hospital Donnybrook is on Bloomfield Ave Donnybrook off Morehampton Road.
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well spotted - It looks like there was, and still are, two Bloomfield Avenues - one in what was Co. Dublin and the other in the City.. both would have been in the Registration district of Dublin South. I dont think there were 17 houses on the one in Donnybrook.. but that might depend on the date involved..
I think the registrar would probably have put the location at Bloomfield Ave., Donnybrook if it was the one beside the Royal Hosp.
S.
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Thank you mjb1 and Shane. This is interesting. I wonder if Bloomfield Ave. is the one at Royal Hospital, Donnybrook. Could you tell me was this hospital a regular one or a special hospital. Perhaps George was in this hospital before he died in 1872. Although it appears by looking at cert. again, there was no medical attendant.
Thanks once again for your help. I may have to write to Royal Hospital to make an enquiry.
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You mentioned Bloomfield Ave in the first post - is this place of death on the cert, or just a residence ?
If it's the place of death then the district details should help narrow down which Bloomfield Ave. the death took place at. On the cert there should be be district details, usually at the top of the form - part of the section with Dublin South, Co. Dublin etc. The clue will be the sub-district - which will be something like South City No. 4, Donnybrook 2 etc
It's also worth checking the informant - this can be a clue if it took place in a hospital or institution, although I think the place of death would have stated Donnybrook hospital if the death was there...
Shane
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Thanks again Shane. Place of death was 17 Bloomfield Ave. At the top it states - Dist. of (looks like No. 3), South City in Union of South Dublin in Co. of Dublin. No medical attention. I guess that is an S, (South City), not Louth. S looks like an L. Hard to make out the writing.
So thank you once again. As no medical attention, I am satisfied that he was not in the Royal Hospital at the time. However on his marriage cert. it was signed by John Connell, Royal Hospital, Kilmainham. ???
This is the M.C. that you helped me out with regarding the address of George's place of residence being "Charlomas" (no such place) & therefore it must be Charlemont.
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The 'Rathmines' Bloomfield Ave. is located in the townland of Portobello which was in the registrars called 'South City No. 3'. Sounds like that fits your location...
The Bloomfield Ave. near the Royal Hosp. is in the townland of Donnybrook West and the Registrar's district of Donnybrook - so think that rules it out.
Shane
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I was informed that my great great grand-father John Killeen was the first Master of the South Dublin Union. Over 50 years ago I saw one of the ledgers signed by him -On request of my family I am now trying to do a family tree and also find out as much as possible about our ancestors. Wher can I find records or listings of the names of the Masters. Any help would be deeply appreciated. sonofoisin
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See here for history and information on Dublin South Workhouse-
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/DublinSouth/
Do the dates fit for John Killeen?