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Title: Daniel Simpson's Will, 1793
Post by: RobinClay on Thursday 01 March 12 18:23 GMT (UK)
This was posted on the STAFFORDSHIRRE List by Jan Rockett as unreadable - anyone for a challenge?
Title: Re: Daniel Simpson's Will, 1793
Post by: Captain2 on Thursday 01 March 12 19:00 GMT (UK)
I'll have a bit of a go  ;)
To this .... comes George Simpson  John Simpson  Ann Simpson  David Rhodes & Sarah his wife  John Booth by ffenwick London  his .... of .... to him divided... David & Martha his wife & John to belong to his wife sons daurs of George Simpson late of Handley within this manor Brinkley dec'd do pray to ... all ... the heredits and premises of .... devised to them by the last will and testament of Daniel Simpson this .... to whom the said .... was granted ... by the ..... according to the ..... to hold the premises and with the appurtances unto those George Simpson  John Simpson  Ann Simpson  David Rhodes & Sarah his wife  John Booth & Martha his wife and John .... his wife..... forever

phew !

Add: Lots of gaps I know but  I hope it starts the ball rolling!
Title: Re: Daniel Simpson's Will, 1793
Post by: dobfarm on Thursday 01 March 12 20:08 GMT (UK)
Just put what I see -not tried to interp it


To come first

To this C---- in (or is) m-- George Simpson, John Simpson, Ann Simpson. David (Or Danial) Rhodes, Sarah his wife, John Booth (added later- By His --ick Lon-d-- ----- ---to him dyvide-------) Martha his wife , John Colclough wife sons,daug's of George Simpson wife of Hanley within this manor Brickley (oR Bricklagh) dyvide andpay (Pray?) like a shillin To? ---To all singulor, the houseold
 & Promas, Dyvid to them by the said Will, C---lam of David Simpson this ------- to whom the
 said grand--?son by the -- according to the --? home of said manor. To hold th ?romas a-- with the appurtes?
A-- said George Simpson, John simpson, Ann Simpson, David Rhodes and his wife,
 John Booth and Martha his wife, LD - John Colcough ----? ] his wife those having of ----?


Title: Re: Daniel Simpson's Will, 1793
Post by: bristolloggerheads on Thursday 01 March 12 20:50 GMT (UK)
To this court comes .....

Title: Re: Daniel Simpson's Will, 1793
Post by: Emmeline on Thursday 01 March 12 21:24 GMT (UK)
Further down the page : -

All singular the heredits and  promises devised to them by the last will and testament of Daniel Simpson, their late uncle........

Every little helps  :)
Title: Re: Daniel Simpson's Will, 1793
Post by: RobinClay on Thursday 01 March 12 21:40 GMT (UK)
Every little helps  :)
Indeed it does !  Thanks, guys & gals !

(Keep at it !)
Title: Re: Daniel Simpson's Will, 1793
Post by: lizplummer on Thursday 01 March 12 21:51 GMT (UK)
I wonder if it's bricklayer not Brinkley, referring to his occupation....

Liz
Title: Re: Daniel Simpson's Will, 1793
Post by: bigmama60 on Thursday 01 March 12 22:01 GMT (UK)
I can conform it is bricklayer.

Jan
Title: Re: Daniel Simpson's Will, 1793
Post by: RobinClay on Thursday 01 March 12 22:07 GMT (UK)
Sorry... I wasn't thinking.  Here it is again, with line numbers.

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Title: Re: Daniel Simpson's Will, 1793
Post by: lizplummer on Thursday 01 March 12 22:08 GMT (UK)
.... do pray to be admitted to..... (after bricklayer decd)

Liz
Title: Re: Daniel Simpson's Will, 1793
Post by: RobinClay on Thursday 01 March 12 22:11 GMT (UK)
Line 1:-
To this Court comes George Simpson
Title: Re: Daniel Simpson's Will, 1793
Post by: RobinClay on Thursday 01 March 12 22:14 GMT (UK)
Line 2:
John Simpson Ann Simpson David
Title: Re: Daniel Simpson's Will, 1793
Post by: RobinClay on Thursday 01 March 12 22:23 GMT (UK)
Line 3:
Rhodes & Sarah his wife John Booth
Title: Re: Daniel Simpson's Will, 1793
Post by: RobinClay on Thursday 01 March 12 22:39 GMT (UK)
Line 4:
by Hardwick London his atty [attorney] byd [bid] so of atty [attorney] to him directed  ????
Title: Re: Daniel Simpson's Will, 1793
Post by: Alexander. on Thursday 01 March 12 22:52 GMT (UK)
Line 4:
by Hardwick London his atty [attorney] byd [bid] so of atty [attorney] to him directed  ????

I think that should be:
by Frederick Lander his att[orne]y by ... of att[orney] to him directed

Not sure of the middle word

Alexander
Title: Re: Daniel Simpson's Will, 1793
Post by: RobinClay on Thursday 01 March 12 22:56 GMT (UK)
Line 5:
                                                                   & Phobe  
duty proved  Martha his wife & John Colelough ^ & his
Title: Re: Daniel Simpson's Will, 1793
Post by: Emmeline on Thursday 01 March 12 22:57 GMT (UK)
Following on from ' their late uncle ' :-

? To whom the said by-listed  I have granted the ? by the ? according to the custom of ?

Mann ( or possibly manor ?)

Will endeavour to fill in the gaps  :)
Title: Re: Daniel Simpson's Will, 1793
Post by: RobinClay on Thursday 01 March 12 23:02 GMT (UK)
Line 6:
wife sons & daus [daughters] of George Simpson
Title: Re: Daniel Simpson's Will, 1793
Post by: dobfarm on Thursday 01 March 12 23:04 GMT (UK)
attributed =attibutor= attrybytor
Title: Re: Daniel Simpson's Will, 1793
Post by: RobinClay on Thursday 01 March 12 23:08 GMT (UK)
Line 7:
late of Hanley within this manor, bricklayer
Title: Re: Daniel Simpson's Will, 1793
Post by: Alexander. on Thursday 01 March 12 23:10 GMT (UK)
Breaking this up into so small pieces is making it difficult to make sense of it. Perhaps do it in three or four lines at a time instead?

What we have so far:

To this Court comes George Simpson
John Simpson Ann Simpson Daniel
Rhodes & Sarah his Wife John Booth
(by Frederick Lander his Att[orne]y by ... of Att[orne]y to him directed & duly proved)
Martha his Wife & John Colelough & Phebe his
Wife Son & Dau[ghte]rs of George Simpson
late of Hanley within this Manor Bricklayer
dec[eas]ed & pray to be admitted ten[nan]ts to
All & singular the heredit[amen]ts & prem[is]es
devised to them by the last will & testm[en]t
of Daniel Simpson their late uncle
Title: Re: Daniel Simpson's Will, 1793
Post by: Captain2 on Thursday 01 March 12 23:15 GMT (UK)
Good job everyone!
Title: Re: Daniel Simpson's Will, 1793
Post by: dobfarm on Thursday 01 March 12 23:16 GMT (UK)
Last bit- John Colclough & Phobe his wife
Title: Re: Daniel Simpson's Will, 1793
Post by: RobinClay on Thursday 01 March 12 23:19 GMT (UK)
It might help if you quote line numbers ?  And keep the line breaks ?
Title: Re: Daniel Simpson's Will, 1793
Post by: RobinClay on Thursday 01 March 12 23:26 GMT (UK)
8  decd & pray to be admitted tennts to
9 all and singular the hereditts and premisses
10 advised to them by the last will & testamnt
11 of David Simpson their late uncle
Title: Re: Daniel Simpson's Will, 1793
Post by: Alexander. on Thursday 01 March 12 23:27 GMT (UK)
12 dec[eas]ed To whom the Lord by his s[aid] Stew[ar]d
13 granteth Seisin by the Rod according
14 to the Custom of the s[ai]d Manor To hold
15 the prem[is]es af[oresai]d with the appur[tenanc]es
16 unto the s[aid] George Simpson John


Got to go now...
Title: Re: Daniel Simpson's Will, 1793
Post by: RobinClay on Thursday 01 March 12 23:32 GMT (UK)
Penultimate !
Title: Re: Daniel Simpson's Will, 1793
Post by: RobinClay on Thursday 01 March 12 23:33 GMT (UK)
AND the last one !
Title: Re: Daniel Simpson's Will, 1793
Post by: dobfarm on Friday 02 March 12 01:01 GMT (UK)
Hi Freck and Robin,

Are you two versed 18 th century short hand ::)

 ???

Dobby  :)
Title: Re: Daniel Simpson's Will, 1793
Post by: Alexander. on Friday 02 March 12 02:08 GMT (UK)
So we have in toto:

1 To this Court comes George Simpson
2 John Simpson Ann Simpson Daniel
3 Rhodes & Sarah his Wife John Booth
4 (by Frederick Lander his Att[orne]y by ... of Att[orne]y to him directed & duly proved)
5 Martha his Wife & John Colelough & Phebe his
6 Wife Son & Dau[ghte]rs of George Simpson
7 late of Hanley within this Manor Bricklayer
8 dec[eas]ed & pray to be admitted ten[an]ts to
9 All & singular the heredit[amen]ts & prem[is]es
10 devised to them by the last will & testm[en]t
11 of Daniel Simpson their late uncle
12 dec[eas]ed To whom the Lord by his s[ai]d Stew[ar]d
13 granteth Seisin by the Rod according
14 to the Custom of the s[ai]d Manor To hold
15 the prem[is]es af[oresai]d with the appur[tenanc]es
16 unto the s[aid] George Simpson John
17 Simpson Ann Simpson Daniel
18 Rhodes & Sarah his Wife John Booth
19 & Martha his Wife & John Colclough
20 & Phebe his wife their heirs & Ass[igns]
21 forever
Title: Re: Daniel Simpson's Will, 1793
Post by: RobinClay on Friday 02 March 12 08:48 GMT (UK)
B R A V O   ! ! !

Thank you EVERYONE for your ideas.
Title: Re: Daniel Simpson's Will, 1793
Post by: bigmama60 on Friday 02 March 12 09:15 GMT (UK)
Thank you sall very much. We could make out a lot but some of it was quite poor so a thousand thanks and if anyone wants any more I have more!!!
Thats what happens after a visit to The National Archives!!!
At least it isnt Latin eh!!!

Jan
Title: Re: Daniel Simpson's Will, 1793
Post by: dobfarm on Friday 02 March 12 10:56 GMT (UK)
Brilliant Job ! From that hand writing! :o

Well done.  :)

Dobby