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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: mkeeble on Wednesday 29 February 12 15:50 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
I have been researching Isaac Tyler (born 1822, Monks Eleigh, Suffolk) for quite a time. He was transported to Tasmania in 1842 with his brother. He got a certificate of freedom in April 1853 before marrying in Aug 1853, have a family in Tasmania and died in Latrobe in 1914.
This is what the well published details say about his life. From his obituary (Trove), however, there is one thing which has always nagged me. The Examiner published on 31 Dec 1914 clearly says "He spent a few years in Victoria at the gold diggings." Despite numerous attempts I have not been able to track down any documentation, passenger lists etc, which would help confirm this.
Childrens births are as follows:
10 Mar 1854
12 Jul 1855
22 Nov 1856
25 Feb 1858
25 Oct 1861
21 Jul 1863
21 Aug 1866
13 Dec 1868
31 Aug 1870
23 Nov 1872
Any online help (location England) or guidance would be greatfully appreciated.
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Hi mkeeble, I think it unlikely you would find passenger lists from Devonport to Melbourne or Geelong in that period. He would have been a fare paying passenger and would have just ferried to one of those ports. As he was a free person there would have been no restriction on his travel, so no need to have any kind of pass.
A possible may be getting into the lists of Miners Licenses for that era, he would have needed one of those? Or he may have just worked for one of the bigger mining companies. As the "Goldrush" was over by the time he gained his Cert of freedom it was into a more mundane time with mining. Although some major strikes were still to happen they were far more scarce.
Did his brother go with him? If so something may be recorded for him!
Also did his wife go with him or were all the births of children in Tasmania?
He could have been set up in Victoria and still having children in Tasmania by the way, it is not that major a commute.
Neil
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TYLER Isaac Steerage Yarra Yarra 28 Sep 1852 Launceston to Melbourne
Moffatt Conditional pardon POL220/1/2 p176
He certainly wasn't at the diggings for years as he married Mary BURNS on 30 Aug 1853 at Westbury. I think it is generally accepted that the Vic gold rush was from around Jul 1851 to the 1860's.
Ticket of Leave 1848
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0klx/
His Will.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0kly/
Cando
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Hi
There actually are passenger lists between the Tasmania (and other States) and Victoria. The link below is to the Index to Victorian Outward Passengers to Interstate, UK, NZ and Foreign Ports 1852-1915. If you search using the surname TYLER you will see that information is very limited.
http://210.8.122.120/indexes/index_search.asp?searchid=42
The Victorian Inward passenger films include passenger lists from Tasmania (and other States) but they have not been indexed by the PROV. Only British, Foreign and New Zealand ships have been indexed. You could check to see if he was on New Zealand ships as many of them called into Hobart on the way to Victoria
http://210.8.122.120/indexes/index_search.asp?searchid=23
Andy
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Thanks for your replies.
Cando, that's him. I believed that under his ticket of leave he was not allowed to leave Tasmania. Is that understanding incorrect and that he was not allowed to leave Australia ?
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This link may help mkeeble.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~perthdps/convicts/res-11.html
Johngirl
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Hi mkeeble,
there is also someone else researching this family.Not sure if it is you though. ???
Follow the link and scroll down to Isaac Tyler and you will see the name of the researcher.Click onto the researchers name and a email box will pop up.Send a message which will then be sent on to the researcher and hopefully they will then get in contact with you.
http://www.tasmaniangenealogy.com.au/surnames_s-z.htm
Johngirl
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Hi mkeeble,
Isaac's Conditional Pardon was approved on 27 Nov 1849 and he could go anywhere except back to England. The certificate of freedom was issued at the expiration of his actual sentence.
http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON33-1-32,403,345,L,80
Tas departures
http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=2
Debra :)
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Electoral roll 1914 shows:
Isaac TYLER, retired farmer, Latrobe
George TYLER, labourer, Latrobe
Electoral rolls do not show relationships and in this case only the town/village name is given so George TYLER may or may not be realted.
Isaac TYLER is buried at the Latrobe cemetery - date of death 30 December, 1914, aged 93, Latrobe Cemetery, Roman Catholic Section. Ref LT04/0279. Spouse : Mary
Mary TYLER, d 22 April, 1898, aged 62 is in the same cemetery and has the same reference number.
Also at the same cemetery is:
Isaac TYLER, d 25 March 1927, 69, spouse Minnie, Ref number LT04/ 0292
Minnie TYLER, d 12 October 1939, 79, spouse Isaac, Ref LT04/ 0292
Judith
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Thank you all enormously for your help.
I think where I went wrong here was that Isaac had a ticket of leave from 1848 which I believed restricted him but, although I had the docs, I did not realise the significance of the conditional pardon in 1949, which lead me to be looking after his certificate of freedom for his first travel.
Judb: Thanks, yes Isaac Tyler and Minnie were his son and daughter-in-law
johngirl: Yes I have seen that link but Isaac and his brother seem to have given rise to lots of family history researchers, but nobody that I have come accross has mentioned the gold rush connection.
Thank you all again for your help.
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Isaac Tyler is my ancestor's brother
I have quite a lot of details on him but know nothing about him going to the Victoria Gold Rush
Please pm me if you need to know more info on the wider family
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TYLER Isaac Steerage Yarra Yarra 28 Sep 1852 Launceston to Melbourne
Moffatt Conditional pardon POL220/1/2 p176
He certainly wasn't at the diggings for years as he married Mary BURNS on 30 Aug 1853 at Westbury. I think it is generally accepted that the Vic gold rush was from around Jul 1851 to the 1860's.
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Cando
OP have you checked the locations of the births of the children?
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