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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Carlow => Topic started by: rajadar on Monday 27 February 12 23:21 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
I am trying to find out information on the Colliers of Myshall. Peter Fenlon Collier was one of them but I am more interested in the family that stayed behind here in Ireland. His Grandfather was Abel Collier who married Anne Cooke around 1820 but thats as much as I know. If anybody knows anything about Abel or his son Robert I would be grateful.
Rajadar
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Hi
According to www.irishgenealogy.ie a number of Collier children were baptised in Aghold Parish, Carlow.
Robert Collier and his wife Mary had their son Abel baptised in Aghold Parish, in 1831. Could Robert have been following common naming patterns and calling his son after his father. In otherwords, could this Robert be the son of your Abel?
Cheers
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www.irishgenealogy.ie also has the buriel of an Abel Collier Bortmore, age 83, on 20 June 1888 at Dunleckney Parish, Carlow.
Cheers
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http://web.muintir.ie/default.asp?com=muintircc&org=myshall
Myshall & Drumphea Development Assocation
is your Peter Collier the Collier Publications
St. Finian's church commemorates the ancestors of Peter Fenelon Collier
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Thanks L.H,
I did see that Abel but this year is not right. The Abel I am looking for was married to an Anne Cooke not a Mary. The Abel I am looking for is the grandfather of Peter Fenlon Collier of the publishing company. He was born in 1844 so the Abel I am looking for would want to have been born around 1770.
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Yes rathmore thats the correct collier line that I am looking for. I was actually up in Myshall last Saturday and I saw the engraved stone on the wall of the old St Finians Church. It was very hard to read though but I could make out most of it eventually but I could have one or two of the dates a bit wrong. I am trying to find brothers for Robert to see can I tie him into my family.
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Have you asked the Local Paper for help. After all the Colliers were one of their own that did well.
If you use google search engine or ask Jeeves, then type in the search box, Colliers of Myshall
came across a baptism for a Anne mother Cath Finlon Father Robert Collier
will not let me back on the site will try again
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Thanks again rathmore for your efforts and input. Its much appreciated. I have not tried the papers yet but I have trawled the internet using google for weeks now and think I have exausted it. I did find that Anne too and she is the right one, she was called after her father's mother. I also came across a John but I can't find him again now. I was hoping to try and find brothers for Robert. I think I will have to go to Dublin some day to the national library. I have not tried Ask Jeeves so maybe I will do that now. Thanks again.
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Since you mentioned searching the National Library I assume your Colliers were RC ?
Parish records for the RC parish of Myshall are available on microfilm Pos. 4198, and include baptisms from 1822, and marriage from the same year. There are some gaps - i.e. parts of of 1846, and some pages in the marriages are damaged or missing.
Shane
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Maybe you've already seen this but there is an article entitled 'Peter Fenelon Collier' in the 2001 issue of 'Carloviana'. Partial index: http://carlowhistorical.com/publications.html
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Thanks Sonas,
Does anybody know where or how I could get the 2001 edition of the Carloviana with the Peter Fenelon Collier article in it. I wonder can it be got online.
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I don't think you can get it online but Carlow Library would probably do a photocopy for you.
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Thanks a million Sonas I will try them.
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Http://www.rte.ie/tv
then type in the search box - who do you think you are
then when the page comes up type in the search box Ardal O'Hanlon
Ardal O' Hanlon comedian/actor was on Who do you think you are 15.5.2009
his grandmother was Daisy Fenelon, from Myshall
Robert Collier and Catherin Fenelon first son, his god parents were Andrew and Ann Fenelon
You could get in touch with RTE Television
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I think WDYTYA Ireland is made by a separate production company rather than directly by RTE.
Shane
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Yes I have seen that Rathmore but they don't give much information on it as regards brothers and sisters of Peter Fenlon Collier. I know he had at least one brother John who also went to america and one sister Mary who was born in Myshall in 1942 but there is no mention of any other and that is really who I am trying to find or Roberts brothers and sisters.
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if you click on Http://www.rte.ie/tv
and type in the Box - Ardal O'Hanlon
that's were I found it.'
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Thanks Shane,
Yes they were RC but they were COI before and changed to RC around the 1798 rebellion I think. Is there any register for people who changed religion in those years either to get married or to try and avoid the troubles.
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I'm not aware of any special register for conversions, but there could have been a note of some sort in the parish register, if there was one at the time. 1798 is well before the start of most the available rural RC records, including those for Myshall parish.
Shane
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Headstones in COI Adelaide Church of the Redeemer Myshall;
John Collier; 23/12/1886 (72)
wife-Anne; 3/3/1898 (77)
children; Samuel James; 22/10/1845 (14 months)
Mary Anne; 21/7/1864 (2)
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erected by William Collier (Ullardmore) for
wife-Anne; 19/11/1896 (81)
above William; 17/2/1903 (87)
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Jack
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Thanks for that Jack I did see that already but its R/C Colliers that I am looking for but thanks for your post.
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Hi - I'm new to this chat site but I saw the request for info on the Myshall Colliers. My great grandfather was Robert Collier - brother of Peter Fenelon Collier. I have info about the family here in the U.S. Happy to answer questions.