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General => The Common Room => Topic started by: brushwood7 on Saturday 25 February 12 17:17 GMT (UK)
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Hello everyone, i wander if someone can help me,my grandfather James Pope Married an Isabella Carr in south shields in 1918,on looking up there marriage details james pope is down as having two surnames either Monaghan or Pope,i know its usual for a women to have two surnames but i dont understand why he would,has anyone come across this situation before if so i would love an answer,thankyou so much if you can help kind regards jane.
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deleted,,,,,,,you are correct,,,,need to put my reading glasses on. :-[
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hi,,just looked at the reference,,,it says HER surname was Monaghan or Pope. ;)
From freebmd
Monaghan James E P ( Spouse Carr)
Pope James E (Spouse Carr)
S.Shields 10a 1539 [/s]
Just seen your other amended post gortonboy ;D
I wonder if he was illegitimate.
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He may be known by his birth name and that of his mother's husband who may or may not be his father.
Jan ;)
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He was either Monaghan, James E P or Pope, James E.
Could he have been James E Pope Monaghan? (either with or without a hyphen?)
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Marriage search results for isabella carr 1918 - 2 records found
Isabella CARR Spouse: James E P MONAGHAN Register: R 114 Entry: 169 Date: 31/08/1918
Isabella CARR Spouse: James E P POPE Register: R 114 Entry: 169 Date: 31/08/1918
http://www.southtyneside.info/applications/2/registersearch/indexsearch.aspx
Stan
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In column 2 ("Name and Surname") if either of the parties has adopted or is commonly known by a name or surname, other than his or her true name or surname, both names should be recorded with the word 'otherwise' between them.
Stan
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I think Monaghan is James' mother's maiden name. There's a possible marriage in Newcastle in December quarter 1886 on FreeBMd with a James Pope and Mary Monaghan on the same page.
A birth of James Edward Pope was registered in Tynemouth district in September quarter of 1887, and James E Pope aged 3 appears with parents James and Mary in Longbenton, Nothumberland in the 1891 census. Neighbours are Peter and Mary Monaghan, who would be old enough to be Mary's parents.
It doesn't look as though James Edward is illegitimate, so perhaps he just chose to use his mother's name for some other reason.
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Thankyou so very much for your information,i am very grateful,kind regards jane.