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Title: Gaffney's
Post by: wendywoohome on Friday 24 February 12 11:08 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I wondered if anyone could help.  I'm looking for a marriage of Louis/Lewis Gaffney to Mary A. ? Mary was born in Kingstown, Ireland in 1937, Louis was born c1831.  They had their first child in Ireland, then moved to Liverpool.  Louis died in the Liverpool workhouse in 1879 aged 48 (I'm awaiting his death cert).  Just can't seem to find a marriage for them.

Many thanks  ;)
Title: Re: Gaffney's
Post by: shanew147 on Friday 24 February 12 11:58 GMT (UK)
Do you have any idea when and where the marriage took place ?

If they were RC and it took place before 1864 then you will need to search for church records...

do you have details of the child born in Ireland - i.e. name, year and place of birth ?

see :  Introduction to Irish Records (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html)
         My Ancestor came from Ireland - where do I start? (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,498742.0.html)   


Shane
Title: Re: Gaffney's
Post by: wendywoohome on Friday 24 February 12 12:10 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Ni I don't know where the marriage took place.  Their first born Michael was born in 1861 in Dublin.

Thanks
Wendy
Title: Re: Gaffney's
Post by: shanew147 on Friday 24 February 12 12:15 GMT (UK)
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Their first born Michael was born in 1861 in Dublin.
...

Michael's birth was before civil records in Ireland ... did Louis and Mary have any children in England ?

A cert for one of them would give you Mary's maiden name.

The problem is "Dublin" is not very specific as it can mean the city, the county or the suburbs and you usually need a more specific location like a parish..

Have you found Michael on later census returns to see if he give a more detailed place of birth ?


Shane
Title: Re: Gaffney's
Post by: shanew147 on Friday 24 February 12 12:22 GMT (UK)
allowing a little leeway for the year of birth - there's a possible baptism match for Michael to a Louis Gaffney and Mary Anne Kennedy in 1859 in St. Andrew's RC parish in Dublin City on IrishGenealogy

see : Baptism of Michael Gaffney, 6 Fade Street, 1859 (http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/9485cf0232378)

Gaffney is a reasonably common surname, so I'd confirm the maiden name by cross-checking against a birth cert for one of the English born children... assuming he had some siblings


Shane
Title: Re: Gaffney's
Post by: wendywoohome on Friday 24 February 12 12:26 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that I really can't believe how stupid I am at times!! I've been researching my family history now for about six years and of course I know that the mother's maiden name can be gleaned from a birth certificate  :-[ It was her maidem name that I'm trying to find.  So thank you for that jolt I'll get on and order a birth certificate.  Mary did have two more children in England!!

Big thanks!!
Title: Re: Gaffney's
Post by: wendywoohome on Friday 24 February 12 12:28 GMT (UK)
You're an absolute star! I'm sure that entry is correct Mary was Mary A and Louis (I've found) is very uncommon.

Many thanks
Title: Re: Gaffney's
Post by: shanew147 on Friday 24 February 12 12:29 GMT (UK)
if that's the correct couple - then there are at least three other children - two older and one younger than Michael..

  Baptism of John Gaffney, 18 May 1853
  Baptism of Maria Anna Gaffney, 15 Kenedy's Lane, 10 Dec 1857
  Baptism of Lewis Gaffney, 3 Fade St., 1862


Shane
Title: Re: Gaffney's
Post by: wendywoohome on Friday 24 February 12 12:36 GMT (UK)
Wow.  I have found Michael, William, Christopher and Elizabeth the latter three having been born in Liverpool.  I'll send off for a birth certificate to see if Mary's maiden name was Kennedy.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Gaffney's
Post by: wendywoohome on Friday 02 March 12 09:32 GMT (UK)
Hiya,

I have managed to establish, with your help, and birth and death certificates that Lewis Gaffney did marry Mary Kennedy.  Could you tell me how I can find their marriage and how do I go about ordering a certificate?

Many thanks,

Wendy
Title: Re: Gaffney's
Post by: shanew147 on Friday 02 March 12 09:36 GMT (UK)
The marriage of Lewis and Mary was before 1864, and they were RC - so there will be no marriage cert, but should be a church record of their marriage. The problem is establishing where this took place.

The IrishGenealogy website mentioned earlier has most of the RC parish records for the city and a few for county Dublin, but does not have records for Kingstown/Dún Laoghaire.



Shane
Title: Re: Gaffney's
Post by: wendywoohome on Friday 02 March 12 09:38 GMT (UK)
Okay, many thanks.

Wendy
Title: Re: Gaffney's
Post by: shanew147 on Friday 02 March 12 09:41 GMT (UK)
The are Transcripts of some South Co. Dublin RC parishes available on the pay-website of the Irish Family History Foundation at www.rootsireland.ie

Kingstown/Dun Laoghaire is included, as are some of the neighbouring parishes, but note that some of these dont have any records back to the 1850s



Shane
Title: Re: Gaffney's
Post by: wendywoohome on Friday 02 March 12 10:34 GMT (UK)
Thanks Shane, I'll have a look  :)
Title: Re: Gaffney's
Post by: franoc22 on Sunday 13 September 15 14:59 BST (UK)
Hi I have just seen your post Michael Gaffney was my Great Grandfather and he was born in 6 Fade Street Dublin I have confirmed this as his mother was Mary Anne Kennedy and is listed on several baptism records for other children I have found that there were 8 Sons and 3 Daughters, what branch of the family are you from.   :)

Fran
Title: Re: Gaffney's
Post by: franoc22 on Sunday 13 September 15 15:17 BST (UK)
here is a picture of were Louis and Mary Anne Lived 6 Fade Street Dublin
Title: Re: Gaffney's
Post by: wendywoohome on Monday 14 September 15 13:01 BST (UK)
Hi, Elizabeth Gaffney, Michael's sister, was my great grandmother.

Cheers,

Wendy
Title: Re: Gaffney's
Post by: franoc22 on Monday 14 September 15 21:03 BST (UK)
Hi Wendy

My Grandmother Mary Gaffney went to live with your Great Grand Mother Elizabeth when both her parents died she was only 14.
I have put a post about the Gaffneys on, it is for William Gaffney who story has it was on Vaudeville, do you have any information about him? also I am in contact with Elizabeth Gaffneys Grand daughter who told me that the Gaffney Family emigrated to the USA but did not like it and came back to England and settled in Liverpool were she had 5 more children, Richard, William, Maria Anna, Christopher and Elizabeth
Title: Re: Gaffney's
Post by: wendywoohome on Tuesday 15 September 15 13:42 BST (UK)
Hi,

I have spoken with mum she remembers that her aunty Mary lived with her 'Ganny Lizzie' but sadly doesn't know anything about William Gaffney.

Warm regards,

Wendy
Title: Re: Gaffney's
Post by: Casabeag on Thursday 16 June 16 17:35 BST (UK)
Hi Wendy,

I'm looking for information on Michael Gaffney from Dublin that married Elizabeth (Eliza) Connor, they had two children Christopher and Elizabeth.

Do you think this is the same Michael Gaffney you have on your side? Elizabeth died in the Church Street Tenement collapse in Dublin in 1913 but it seems Michael had maybe died before her as she was married twice.

Thanks,
Title: Re: Gaffney's
Post by: dathai on Thursday 16 June 16 19:15 BST (UK)
St Michael's Kingstown 23rd April 1849
Lewes Gifney to M Anne Kennedy
Wits Paul?Furlong and Elizabeth Milford
left hand page
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633809#page/33/mode/1up

Hugh 1856
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/a6fc400069987