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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Cork => Topic started by: miggs 191 on Thursday 23 February 12 18:43 GMT (UK)
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On a wild goose chase I know!
My Hegartys went to USA around 1890/1910.
Believed to be :- John 1866
Patrick1872
Bridget 1868
Margaret 1873
Anne 1875
Also Ellen 1877 who stayed at home!
Anyone out there see any link?
We don't know where in the States they went or what happened to them.They are my Great uncles and Aunts.So sad to think they were lost to those who remained in Ireland. :(
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It might be worth checking the Elllis Island website for any sign of them arriving - records there start in 1892. See : http://www.ellisisland.org
Do you have the full names of the parents ?
Shane
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Parents seem to be Patrick Hegarty and Mary Driscoll and Lahardane is in the parish of Castlehaven (RC).
My great great grandparents were Jeremiah Driscoll and Johanna Hegarty (and various abbreviations for these first names) and they were having children at the same time as this couple in the townland next door, Killaderry. I haven't looked into them properly and am going to be hampered by the late start date for parish records but was wondering if you have any further info on Patrick Hegarty and Mary Driscoll to see if these couples might tie together somehow eg names of siblings, names of parents.
One of the sponsors named on my great grandmother's baptism is Patrick Hegarty but it's probably not a good idea to read too much into this! Miggs, I see you have Bohane listed as a name of interest - are they from this area as well?
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Sonas,
Must be a link somewhere!
Grandparents were Bohane from Killaderry 1864.tiny place,know it very well,next door to Lahardane. I know my Bohane links and have checked with 1911 and 1901 census and Castlehaven records. Hegartys are there too but would love to know where they went.We have a possible photo sent 'home'from the States. Have used Ellis Island and it can be very good especially when listing relatives in Ireland.They usually go to New York and Boston but still don't know where and what happened. Also linked to Driscoll and Mccarthy.Are you linked to me?
Thank you for replying. Look forward to a reply?Miggs
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Hi Miggs, Are you related to this Bohane family?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Castlehaven_North/Kilderry/1156787/
Mary Bohane age 38 (nee Daly) is my great-grandfather's sister. I have their marriage cert and Michael Bohane's father was Daniel Bohane.
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Hi Sonas,
Not directly but I understand that The Bohanes of Killaderry are all related.
My Mother Bridget DOB 1918,my grandfather was Peter DOB 1864,my Great grandfather Michael and I have a suspicion based on Griffiths etc that his father was Daniel but can't as yet prove it!
Have you used the Skibbereen Heritage centre?
A lady called Margaret knows everything,she is amazing!
I hope to travell back again this summer to find more evidence.
The house is still standing but empty since the 50s.
I have spoken to a relative by marriage who knew them way back.She is a Hegarty married to Pat Hegarty my mother's cousin.
She didn't know where the earlier generation had gone in the States.
Have you searched in the old copies of The Southern Star newspaper.You have to pay but there are lots of bits about Killaderry.We must be linked but how far back? Thanks for replying.Look forward to hearing from you.
Miggs Chcked census.We were no.10 in 1901 my great grandparents as main householders.I think no. changed for 1911 and then we were no 9.
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We don't know where in the States they went or what happened to them.They are my Great uncles and Aunts.So sad to think they were lost to those who remained in Ireland. :(
Maybe not entirely lost. Family Search lists people with parents Patrick Hegarty and Mary Driscoll in Ohio, New Hampshire, and Montana USA. Have those been dead ends? Diaspora of Patrick Hegarty and Mary Driscoll
(https://www.familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bfather_givenname%3APatrick~%20%2Bfather_surname%3AHegarty~%20%2Bmother_givenname%3AMary~%20%2Bmother_surname%3ADriscoll~&offset=20)
My family has Hegarty in-laws from neighboring Bluid.
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I think there must be a connection somewhere too, Miggs. My aunt-in-law is also related to Bohanes from Killaderry but I don't know the details. I have some more research to do but I hope to talk to her in the next month or so to see if she can fill in blanks. I'll post again if I discover anything further. She might know how all these Bohanes connect together or do you already know?
I must go back to the Valuation Office and look at the cancelled land books again and also go to the National Archives to see the old age pension material. I don't mean to drag this off-topic but would anyone know if the names of parents are recorded on the old age pension forms?
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Many thanks Sonas and Skibgirl,
I have cousins living in Skib.
I shall cajoel them to explore further!
I do know my grandfather was registered in Baptism record as a Sullivan! But that is crossed through in the church records and changed to Bohane.
The family story goes that the land in Killaderry was all owned by the same person and split between sons hence so many Bohanes live in that Townland.
Bohanes still live there.
Does anyone know if Hegartys are still in Lahardane?
i have been through the Castehaven Church records and tried to cross reference them but it is so hard as they all seem to be Patrick,Michael,Bridget,Mary,Hanorah etc.
My aim is to see if it might fit with a traditional Irish namig pattern as the baptism dates are available.
By the way family lore has it that all the registrations occured on market day!
In Skib so many people know their family links and I feel it would be great to find ours! I'll check the sponsor names too.
Thank you for replies.
Miggs
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Hi Miggs, to answer your question about Hegartys and Lahardane at the moment, we're not allowed post details of living people but you can take a look here for the current valuation list: http://www.valoff.ie/search/search.asp.
The Bluid (mentioned by Skibbgirl) and Lahardane Hegartys are the same people I think.
I neglected to answer your questions in an earlier post about the Southern Star and Skibbereen Heritage Centre. I have taken out a couple of the day-long subscriptions to the Star but must take another look. I was searching for a few areas and it's a good complaint but there was so much info there I couldn't get through it all. I haven't used the Heritage Centre at all but hear good things about them.
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Does anyone know how to check records in Anaconda,Deer Lodge,Montana? Info from Skib girl ( many thanks) has lead to very positive info but not sure what to do now.
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Surely somebody here, linked off directly or indirectly, would know. So many counties in the US have their local historical societies !
Dear Lodge County links:
http://resources.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usa/MT/DeerLodge/
http://www.linkpendium.com/genealogy/USA/MT/Deer_Lodge/
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Skibgirl,
Thank you yet again! for the links.
Seems that Deer Lodge is smaller than 10,000 people and although there are lots of web links there is nothing at the end.They are all appealing for volunteers to help!
Good they are trying to help but not much help to me in the UK!
Family info has it that my great aunts may have gone to Dakota and I think Deer lodge is north of there.
Anyone out there who can suggest how to find info about settlers from Laharadane,Castlehaven, Skibbereen,County Cork around or just before the turn of the century? Will keep going...there may be light at the end of the tunnel!
Possibly there are decendents too? :)
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Google, ancestry.com, and Family Search are your friends:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1&countryId=19
http://montanahistorywiki.pbworks.com/w/page/21639781/Naturalization%20Records
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Skibgirl,
THANK YOU,
Now into a Montana link.
Will let you know if I find them.
Hope to be back in Skibbereen this summer.Will head again to the Heritage centre.
Will try to find those that stayed behind.
Miggs
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Think I am getting somewhere.The Anaconda marriage links 'pair up' with references on Ellis Island giving correct parents names for Skib.! Now need to confirm Anaconda link with access to marriage or naturalisation papers.
Thank you all for giving help over the last few weeks. :)
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just happened to see this in passing as I read Southern Star for Sat. March4, 1916. Death of Mrs. Nora Weidenfeller at her residence, Deer Lodge, Montana, on 14 jan, heard by her relatives in Skibbereen. She was the daughter of Denis Hegarty, Bluid. She emigrated to USA 10 years ago and has been married for the past 5 years. She leaves 2 young children.
Hope it might be useful
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Thank you spalpeen,
Adds to the possible information about missing great aunts.
I have used Southern Star by paying for a link and found lots of information about Bohane side of the family but stupidly never thought to look for the Hegartys!
Thanks again.
M
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Hello Miggs,
You will find info on Hegartys of Laherdane in the 1901 and 1911 censuses. I would guess that Nora followed some of her brothers out to Montana. My grandfather, Denis Hegarty, was from a large family in Fahouragh, not far from Laherdane.
spalpeen
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This looks like one of Nora's children: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VP3D-F6N
Looks like this might be Nora's 2 children with a Hegarty relative in 1930: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XCX3-6Z2
Nora's gravestone is here:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Weidenfeller&GSiman=1&GScnty=1632&GRid=68758554&
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I'm also looking into jeremiah and Johannah driscoll in Kilderry as a possible link. I looked into their children and I found jeremiah, patrick, ellen, mary, bridget, cath, johanna and michael. do ye know if they lived locally or emigrated? Any information is welcome!
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Checked 1901+1911 census. 1911 Jeremiah 70 married to Johanna Hegarty 60, married 51 years. 7 children born, 6 alive. Their son Jeremiah and his wife living with them. Check National Archives/ census, hit browse Cork/ Castlehaven/Kilderry ( variously spelled. Also check out churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie for Castlehaven/ various spellings on Kilderry. I found children for Jerry Driscoll and Johanna Hegarty. Also children for Patrick Driscoll and Ellen Spillane.
Hope this helps,
Spalpeen
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I'm also looking into jeremiah and Johannah driscoll in Kilderry as a possible link. I looked into their children and I found jeremiah, patrick, ellen, mary, bridget, cath, johanna and michael. do ye know if they lived locally or emigrated? Any information is welcome!
They are my great-great grandparents. Their daughter Mary was my great-grandmother and she married locally. I should have some information on at least some of the other siblings but don't have it here. I'll get back to you in a few days though. At least one other sibling stayed locally.
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I'm also looking into jeremiah and Johannah driscoll in Kilderry as a possible link. I looked into their children and I found jeremiah, patrick, ellen, mary, bridget, cath, johanna and michael. do ye know if they lived locally or emigrated? Any information is welcome!
Hi again, I should have asked - who do you think your link to this family is and where did they end up? PM me if you prefer although you need to have made three posts before you can use the PM system.
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Thanks Spalpeen for your reply and the info - great help!
Thanks also Sonas for your reply, I am interested in the Hanora Hegarty of Laherdane and if she married the Partick then or was the Hannah from elsewhere? Anything at all you may know would be most appreciated!
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Thanks Spalpeen for your reply and the info - great help!
Thanks also Sonas for your reply, I am interested in the Hanora Hegarty of Laherdane and if she married the Partick then or was the Hannah from elsewhere? Anything at all you may know would be most appreciated!
I'm a bit lost with this. What's the surname of the Patrick you mention and can you provide a link to the baptism of the Hanora Hegarty?
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That was an error on my part Sonas, I had Patrick in my head after reading Spalpeens comment. I am of course referring to the original Jeremiah and Johanna Driscoll that I posted a few days ago. Unfortunately, i am still actively searching for a baptism record in the different parishes. Was your great great grandmother Hanna Hegarty from Lahardane or elsewhere?
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Hi All,
How many of you have been to Killaderry?
For those who don't know it's just outside Skib. on the Tragumna Road.Get to Lis Ard (lake) travel about a mile, turn left about a hundred yards and turn left again.It is a small town land.(Look it up on Google map as they now have images at long last!) Bohanes still live there,Patrick and Michael. Somehow we are all related.In previous generations my Bohanes (first house on left still standing!) married Hegarties from Lahardane (town land over the hill) and Driscoll.I stayed in the farm when very very young in the fifties. My Uncle John Bohane died about 1957 and the farm was sold to another Bohane already in the town land.
My cousins, who are older than me, remember family info. My great grandmother lived at the farm and was born before the famine.They say that around the famine years many more families lived there and had small plots of land.I know that until 1890ish they did not own the farm so can only assume that they let these people stay on their land or God forbid, were sub letting.I understand many of these families went to The States.The Bohanes that went then became Bowen.
Hope this may be of use to someone.
Extra info can be found at The Skibbereen Heritage Centre.The staff are brilliant.
Also,Sonas whom I see here,has a very big thank you from me for pointing me in the right direction! :):)
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Hi Miggs - Thanks for posting your knowledge on the Bohanes, very interesting to read. I have never been down there but it is on my list of things to do sometime! :) I suppose with there being so many branching Bohanes living there, makes it all a little more difficult to track. Good to hear you have found the right path!
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Hi all, just back from Skib and have another piece to the puzzle. I'll add it here in case anyone can find links to it.
Bridget Bohane born 1918
Father. Peter Bohane Born1864 Killaderry
Mother. Ellen Hegarty. Born1877 Laharadane
Her father Patrick Hegarty ? "
Her mother Mary Driscoll Drishane
Her father William Driscoll. ". (from marriage cert )
Anyone recognise this ?
Apparently the name William is unusual at this time.
What I'm not sure is could it be Drishane Tragumna or Drishane Castletownsend ?
Due to the proximity to Tragumna I think it must be this one.
Does any one have any links.
I'm about to look at the 1901/1911 census for Drishane but of course it's a big gap in years from when Mary was born and even further back for William. 🙂
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Hello Miggs-
I am new to this forum so I hope that I am doing this correctly and that this reaches you.
I live in the United States in Minnesota and this past weekend attended a community rummage sale with my husband where I purchased an old photo album which contains 25 pictures dating around the late 1800's - early 1900's.
The album was signed by the owner as Annie Hegarty Lahardane Skibb. I decided to see if I could perhaps find out something about her and so looked online which eventually lead a path to you at this forum.
Aside from her name on the inside cover there is also another picture which contains her name as well as Dan Kearnes. The photography studios are marked on each photo and range from Oswego New York, Orange New Jersey, Boston, Butte Montana, Helena Montana, Anaconda Montana, Portland Oregon & San Francisco.
(I will attempt to attach a few pictures to this post)
After finding you as a link to this family, I felt it important to reach you.
I look forward to hearing back from you! :)
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Hi,
This is amazing and absolutely unbelievable. I am sooo excited . Annie Hegarty was one of my great Aunts. Three of my grandmothers sisters went to the USA and we had no idea where.
With help from someone called Skibgirl who is a genealogist I managed to track them down to Montana. The records of Deer Park were excellent and gave their names and their parents names so I know it is definitely them. Birth dates and place correct too. As far as I know nothing more was heard but it may be that when my grandmother died in Ireland in 1955 the letters etc were lost as the farm had to be sold shortly after.
We have no photographic record of this part of our family but think that there are descendents still living there by looking at Montana records. We know they were in Anaconda.
I just can not believe it !!! '
I've been doing the research but there are many great nephews and nieces in Ireland who await my next piece of info ! I live and was born in the UK. Thank you for posting this letter and looking for a link. The photos you put in came through fine. We have one photo that came home from America around 1960. It was brought over by a visiting American family but no one can remember who they were. We are pretty certain that it is the brothers and sisters when they first went out.
I would be so glad to hear from you again. Such an amazing piece of good fortune.
Would you be interested in parting with it ?
Can you say exactly where you bought it as it may give a link as to where the next generations are living.
Thank you so much for making the effort to contact.
Miggs
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Miggs
I am SO glad I reached you!
I was at my cabin in Northern Minnesota when I went to the sale. No one had any information about the origins of the album as the items were from numerous donations from the community. The town is Grand Marais, MN it sits on the shores of Lake Superior.
I contacted you in hopes of the album finding its way back home to its rightful place which is to you! (That is why I chose the username of "Full Circle" for this forum.) ;)
The album itself has much wear and is coming apart in places, which just speaks of its story and its travels. Most of the photos are in very good condition.
The only photo with writing on the back is of a soldier and says: "Steal not this photo for fear of shame for here you see the owner's name - Annie Hegarty"
It also says: "If ever this child should wander _?__? __?_ ? and send him home"
So that is what I'd like to do....send it home.
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Hi again,
I am so grateful that you thought to find the photos "home". Annie's home was Laharadane which is a tiny area of land in Castlehaven Skibbereen. It is about a mile away from The Atlantic right in the south west corner of Ireland. I don't think she or her brothers and sisters ever returned. She would have been born and brought up on a farm and any schooling would have been at a school on the beach at Tragumna. Her parents were Patrick Hegarty and Mary Driscoll. Annies's sister was my grandmother. I didn't meet her either as my mother was one from youngest out of ten and she didn't marry and have me until thirty five so the older relatives died before I was born.
I return to Skibbereen every year. It is very expensive but I always say I am "going home" even though I wasn't born there.
It is a beautiful country with wonderful people and very different to England.
Would you be willing to send the album to the UK ? Of course I would pay all your costs. I just can not believe the coincidence of you finding the photos and then finding me on Roots Chat. The wonders of ICT !
Annie and her brothers and sisters married but did not return home. It must have been so sad for their parents. At least when my mother who would have been her niece, came to the UK they knew they would be able to go home and regularly did.
As a family we are still in contact with second and third generation that went to Boston and New York but have no idea about the Hegartys apart from the bits I picked up on genealogy. They ended up in Deer Park Anaconda Montana.
If you would be willing to let the album "come home" please let me know how much it will cost and I can pay you with PayPal.
Thank you again for rescuing it and trying to find me.
Miggs. 'Full Circle'. 🙂🙂🙂
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Miggs-
After studying the faces in the album of this family I really wondered what their story might be, so thank you for the background information...I find it quite fascinating!
I don't require payment for the album, as I am thrilled to be able to get these missing pieces of your family's heritage back to you!
Perhaps you could send me a PM with your mailing address.
Have a wonderful evening!
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Thank you so much.
I'll get back to you tomorrow I've just come in from a genealogy meeting.
I still can't get over your kindness at trying to find out who they are.
I always feel that my ancestors made me who I am so I have much to be grateful for .
Miggs. 🙂🙂🙂
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This is just such a joy to see. I'm so pleased for you Miggs and how wonderful of Full Circle to take the trouble to find you.
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This is a brilliant story! Well done Full Circle
Just reading back over the thread Miggs191. You mentioned William being a rare name in those days. You might be interested in knowing that my great great grandfather was born in Bawnishall which borders Laherdane on the other side and he was named William also. I don't have a date of birth for him but I estimate that he was born around between 1810 and 1820 (I know that he had children who were born in the 1840s and I know that his daughter (whose dob I don't know) had her first child in 1860
As an aside, are people aware that the Irish civil records are now live on irishgenealogy.ie . You can see the actual records for births between 1864 and 1915, marriages between 1882 and 1940 and deaths from 1891 to 1965. I believe that marriage and death records might extend further back at some stage in the future. Brilliant resource. I used to pay €4 a pop to request records from the GRO in the past and often they would turn out to be the wrong family
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Sin an and Whl,
Thank you for your messages.
Isn't it wonderful what some people will do.
I still can't believe it.
Yes, saw the Irish records yesterday,that will be many happy hours or should I say years ??!!! In front of a computer on winter nights. 🙂🙂🙂🙂
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Hi miggs, I’m new here and found your thread through google. My 3rd great grandmother was Bridget Hegarty, born about 1838 somewhere in Cork, died 1924 in Oswego, NY. According to her death certificate, her parents were Patrick Hegarty and Mary Atridge. Bridget married Peter Collins, and between 1863-1879 they had nine children who were all baptized in the Skibbereen area, before they came to Oswego, NY in 1882.
So I have two questions for you. First, do any of these names sound familiar to you? And second, I noticed in the posts about the photo album found by Full Circle that some of the pictures were taken in Oswego. Were any of those labeled? I would love to see the Oswego ones in particular, if you wouldn’t mind sharing.
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Hi Alf 16
I’ve only just seen your post.
I’m interested to see you are linked to the Attridges because they are often sponsors for family baptisms.
I am in England but should be in Skibbereen now but can’t go because of the virus. Every summer I go “ home” and spend three weeks trying to link them all together with the help of the Skibbereen Heritage Centre. They are amazing.
I’ll hook out my Irish genealogy and check for names and see if I can post photos from the album on here. Miggs
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Hey miggs, it's nice to hear from you! I'm sorry to hear about your trip this summer. Hopefully next year the world will be a bit closer to normal.
That's interesting about the Attridges. Looking forward to seeing whatever you can share, but no rush!
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Miggs, PS—I just found a DNA match on Ancestry who has the following people on her tree:
Patrick Hegarty and Mary Driscoll, parents of Ellen Hegarty who married Peter Bohane. I saw that you mentioned Bohanes and Patrick Hegarty/Mary Driscoll. How were you connected with them?
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Hi again ,
Ellen Hegarty married Peter Bohane in 1900 .They are my grandparents. My grandfather Peter was born in Killaderry in June 1864 My grandmother Ellen was born in the next door townland ( the next field ! ) Laharadane in 1877.
Peters father was Michael and his father before him another Peter. It’s a small townland but many Bohane. Story is that one man had all the land and split it between seven sons ! I’m sure it’s a story but do know that somehow we Bohane of Killaderry are related.
Mary Driscoll,my great grandmother comes from Drishane Tralispean which is walking distance from Killaderry and Laharadane townland. Our family had been on that land at least back to 1800. My mother too,was born there. By 1956 my Uncle John Bohane died unexpectedly. He was only in his early fifties. The older brothers were in the USA and so the farm had to be sold. It was bought by Bohane up the boureen. Every year I go back. The glass is in the windows. The roof still on but it is falling apart 😢 Thank you for your info. I’m currently working on my English family and have just had a query about my Welsh lot. I will find the Attridges ! 😃
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Hi, I think this is my family too. Patrick Jnr is my great grandfather
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Welcome to RootsChat :)
Hi, I think this is my family too. Patrick Jnr is my great grandfather
So, is this the birth record of your gt grandfather in 1872 at Laherdawn [sic]?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03255/2193010.pdf
For information-
Lahardane More townland (with Lahardane Beg to the east).
https://www.townlands.ie/cork/west-carbery-east-division/castlehaven/castlehaven-south/lahardane-more/
How many of you have been to Killaderry?
For those who don't know it's just outside Skib. on the Tragumna Road.Get to Lis Ard (lake) travel about a mile, turn left about a hundred yards and turn left again.It is a small town land.
https://www.townlands.ie/cork/west-carbery-east-division/castlehaven/castlehaven-north/killaderry/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5900323#map=14/51.5137/-9.2485
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I am not sure if it is finished but the local history society have some information on Lahardane More at https://localwiki.org/haven/An_Leathard%C3%A1n_M%C3%B3r
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Patrick Hegarty Jnr, born 1864
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Kiltsglassan,
This Patrick Hegarty is my Grandmother’s brother so my great uncle.
There’s a huge gap in ages.
My mother was the one from youngest in the Bohane family from Killaderry she was born 1918
Her mother ( my grandmother ) was Ellen Hegarty born 1877 who married Peter Bohane of Killaderry.
Her Mother was Mary Driscoll from Drishane
And Mary’s parents were William Driscoll and Anne Attridge.