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Title: james pope
Post by: brushwood7 on Tuesday 21 February 12 15:34 GMT (UK)
does anyone have any information on james pope born ipswich in 1866 please look forward to hearing from anyone.kind regards thankyou jane.
Title: Re: james pope
Post by: Isobelruss on Tuesday 21 February 12 15:54 GMT (UK)
There doesnt appear to be a James Pope born in Ipswich or Suffolk in 1866.Do you have any more information. ???
Title: Re: james pope
Post by: suzard on Tuesday 21 February 12 15:59 GMT (UK)
There is this James

1891
Church St Walker Northumberland
James Pope \head M| 25 lab shipyard Ipswich Norfolk
Mary wife 23 Newcastle on Tyne
James E son 3
Thomas H son 2
peter son 3mths
children all b Walker
RG12 4231 43 18

1901 some of the children seem to be with grandchildren -others are boarders with Mary-Mary is listed as married but James isn't with her

do you have any other info on James??

Suz
Title: Re: james pope
Post by: suzard on Tuesday 21 February 12 16:13 GMT (UK)
it also looks like Mary died before 1911 and James had the many children with him

but he was giving p.o.b. asDurham?????


Suz
Title: Re: james pope
Post by: brushwood7 on Tuesday 21 February 12 16:41 GMT (UK)
There is this James

1891
Church St Walker Northumberland
James Pope \head M| 25 lab shipyard Ipswich Norfolk
Mary wife 23 Newcastle on Tyne
James E son 3
Thomas H son 2
peter son 3mths
children all b Walker
RG12 4231 43 18

1901 some of the children seem to be with grandchildren -others are boarders with Mary-Mary is listed as married but James isn't with her

do you have any other info on James??

Suz
Title: Re: james pope
Post by: brushwood7 on Tuesday 21 February 12 16:46 GMT (UK)
Hi there,thankyou for the information you sent the james pope aged three was my grandfather,he was born in 1888 in walker northumberland,its his father i am having trouble locating,he doesant seem to appear anywhere in the censuses,but i did see a listing for him as being a dock worker in ipswich,i dont really see where i can go with this,it seems odd that he ended up in northumberland when he was in ipswich,thankyou very much for your help though if you can shed any further light on his whereabouts i would be very grateful thankyou kind regards jane.
Title: Re: james pope
Post by: suzard on Tuesday 21 February 12 17:17 GMT (UK)
He is on 1911 census - and is still a shipyard lab

You have to purchase credits to view 1911 census - as we are not allowed to do look ups (copyright)
you can view the index free

Suz
Title: Re: james pope
Post by: suzard on Tuesday 21 February 12 17:18 GMT (UK)
also his marriage certificate should give father's name and occupation
Witnesses are sometimes related
Marriage reg
James Pope
Mary Monaghan
Dec qtr 1886
Newcastle uopn Tyne
10b 158


Suz
Title: Re: james pope
Post by: brushwood7 on Tuesday 21 February 12 18:12 GMT (UK)
thankyou to all for your information which has been of great assistance thankyou kind regards jane.
Title: Re: james pope
Post by: Keziah2 on Wednesday 22 February 12 18:13 GMT (UK)
Here's one to consider Jane

1871C Heigham, Norwich, Norfolk - James Pope born 1865 (6) Norwich - father John Pope (wdr) 50, dealer, siblings George 18, Ellen 9.

In 1891 the Census info is conflicting so either Ipswich, Suffolk or Norwich, Norfolk could be likely.  Ipswich seems to have been eliminated so....

James POPE  birth reg Jun Qtr 1865 Norwich ref: 4b/169 (source: freeBMD)

This could be him in 1881:

James POPE 18 c1863 born Norage, Norfolk coal miner, boarding with the Kirkbright family Mount Pleasant, Thornton in Bradford, Yorks
RG11/4468/153/9

keziah
Title: Re: james pope
Post by: brushwood7 on Thursday 23 February 12 09:52 GMT (UK)
Thankyou very much that certainly is one to concider,do you know what the (wdr) in brackets means please,kind regards jane.
Title: Re: james pope
Post by: Keziah2 on Thursday 23 February 12 11:41 GMT (UK)
It means he was a widower

FreeBMD records this death:
Sophia POPE age 42 in the Jan-Mar Qtr 1870 Norwich ref: 4b/103

in 1861

John POPE 40, wife Sophia POPE 31, children William 13, Edward 11, George 8, Martha 7, Henry 5 & Betsy probably about 1.  All living Pockthorpe, Norwich.

The interesting bit is that George 8 was born in Hartlepool, Durham & Martha 7 was born in Sunderland, Durham.  The rest of the family all born Norfolk.

Keziah
Title: Re: james pope
Post by: brushwood7 on Thursday 23 February 12 15:44 GMT (UK)
Thankyou very much,that is interesting isnt it,certainly gives me some good information to work on many thanks to you kind regards jane.