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Title: Yates nee(Swann) family from Liverpool
Post by: OGH23 on Monday 20 February 12 21:15 GMT (UK)
I am looking for a relative of this Yates family -

I wish to contact the family of Wireless Operator Sylvester Kenneth Yates , Son of Samuel William and Catherine Yates of Liverpool.......Sylvester was killed in a military aircraft accident on 15th Feb 1944 aged 20 in North Wales and is buried at Liverpool(Yew Tree)Roman Catholic Cemetery .

We the Deganwy History Group wish to honour him along with four other airmen killed here in our locality at Deganwy North Wales and we hope to place some sort of stone memorial / plaque at the accident site ....I myself will be giving a talk of my research on the incident this coming September 2012 .

I believe his parents lived at Prescot in their latter years ...Catherine passed away in 1944/45 , and Samuel in 1964.

If anyone can help , please contact me via my e-mail address or on here.
Title: Re: Yates nee(Swann) family from Liverpool
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 21 February 12 00:36 GMT (UK)
Hi

Looking on freebmd - Sylvester seems to be the only child born to that marriage

Saker St is right opposite the street I was born in
Title: Re: Yates nee(Swann) family from Liverpool
Post by: OGH23 on Tuesday 21 February 12 00:44 GMT (UK)
yep , I know ...that's the problem ...still I'll keep searching , have got positive results on two of the airmen ...made contact with pilots family in Berkshire and also a family in New Zealand .
thanks ...Gwyn 
Title: Re: Yates nee(Swann) family from Liverpool
Post by: Radcliff on Tuesday 21 February 12 04:30 GMT (UK)
not a postive lead but one that needs to be looked at

St Chad Everton,
December 23rd 1915
Samuel William Yates,tool maker ,age 29,bachelor,of 2 Olney Street,father John a traveller
Catherine Swann,aged 23 a spinster of 17 Saker Street,father Joseph Swann deceased,a tailor,/sailor
witness to marriage John Doyle and Elizabeth Swann


Two births that need checking out

William J Yates West Derby 1917 mother Swan
James R Yates West Derby 1925,mother Swan
Title: Re: Yates nee(Swann) family from Liverpool
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 21 February 12 15:04 GMT (UK)
Hi Radcliffe

Well spotted - Swan not Swann so looks like he had 3 siblings as there is an Alan L b Dec qtr 1918 mmn Swan

Deaths

William John Yates age 63 born  3 Jan 1917 June qtr 1980   Liverpool 36  1157 (Birth was in the March qtr)
 
Alan Leslie Yates aged 66 born 19 September 1918 Death reg April 1985 St Helens (Birth reg in December qtr)
Vol 37 P18

James Ronald Yates aged 58 born 22 Aug 1925 death reg July 1984 St Helens
Vol 37 P 2
Title: Re: Yates nee(Swann) family from Liverpool
Post by: OGH23 on Tuesday 21 February 12 15:12 GMT (UK)
thanks everyone ...you're all so kind in helping ....as the Beatles once said "we'll get there in the end , Oh yeah , Oh yeah .....

sorry could not resist that one ....Gwyn x
Title: Re: Yates nee(Swann) family from Liverpool
Post by: Gibel on Tuesday 21 February 12 16:45 GMT (UK)
How about something in the local papers? Maybe the Liverpool Echo and whatever the local paper is in Prescot/St Helens.
Title: Re: Yates nee(Swann) family from Liverpool
Post by: OGH23 on Tuesday 21 February 12 17:26 GMT (UK)
thanks .but have already made a request to The Echo , as yet still awaiting a reply its been two weeks now ...give them another week , then I'll phone direct ..
Title: Re: Yates nee(Swann) family from Liverpool
Post by: Radcliff on Tuesday 21 February 12 20:25 GMT (UK)
Go bigger then I am sure a local radio or TV station would be interested in this memorial project,or even a national newpaper,keep on with the good work,sorry I cant help you find the descendants as I wouldnt know where actualy to look,
Title: Re: Yates nee(Swann) family from Liverpool
Post by: SusieKelly on Tuesday 21 February 12 22:48 GMT (UK)
Try posting on this site very helpful local people.

http://www.sthelens-connect.net/zconnect/showtopics.php?forum=sthgen
Title: Re: Yates nee(Swann) family from Liverpool
Post by: OGH23 on Sunday 03 March 13 20:22 GMT (UK)
have found a family tree on ancestry.com with his whole family ...sent a message to its provider ..." BanJo Jack" from Cheshire but no answer , wish I could have his e-mail address and contact hime directly ...we are unveiling a stone in his honour soon ...wish the family could be there ....so frustrating ....as follows

"I wish to contact a family member of the above ....I'm a member of a history group in Deganwy and we are commemorating and unveiling a plaque / stone memorial in respect of the 5 airman who lost their lives on Feb 1944 , due to an air accident , we wish for family members to be present at the ceremony . We have traced 3 other crew member's families , if you can help , pleas contact me a.s.a.p. and I'll give you more details"
Gwyn Hughes
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Title: Re: Yates nee(Swann) family from Liverpool
Post by: garstonite on Sunday 03 March 13 20:38 GMT (UK)
Hiya Gwyn ...there is a member on Rootschat named
STEPHEN NULTY ...he is by far the most experienced person I have encountered about Prescot and it`s inhabitants ...send him a Personal Message and give him the details ...be back in a minute
Title: Re: Yates nee(Swann) family from Liverpool
Post by: garstonite on Sunday 03 March 13 20:41 GMT (UK)
here you go ...click on Stephen Nulty  and send him your request ...he is a genius with anything to do about Prescot ,as you will see on the thread below
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,637447.0.html

good luck
allan
Title: Re: Yates nee(Swann) family from Liverpool
Post by: OGH23 on Tuesday 05 March 13 17:26 GMT (UK)
thanks , just sent Stephen a message . Gwyn
Title: Re: Yates nee(Swann) family from Liverpool
Post by: bjack on Tuesday 09 July 13 20:56 BST (UK)
Hi there, i have just discovered this website and noticed that you are looking for family of the late Kenneth Yates. I am the nephew of Kenneth and son of James. If you still need to get in touch please email me at ayateselec@blueyonder.co.uk
I should hopefully be able to help you with your enquiries. Best wishes,
Andy Yates
Title: Re: Yates nee(Swann) family from Liverpool
Post by: garstonite on Tuesday 09 July 13 21:23 BST (UK)
Hiya Andy and welcome to Rootschat ...do yourself a favour and remove your e-mail address mate ...hackers might just use it to their advantage .....when you make 2 more posts -  any member will be able to send you a Personal Message ...cheers