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Hi
I cannot find on either the Cheshire or Lancashire BMD, nor on Ancestry a death entry for Thomas Mitchell b 1896 Widnes. I have old notes indicating he died in 1940 2nd qrt in Widnes, but I cannot find it anywhere.
TIA
Tanja
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Hi Tanja,
Not that it helps find Thomas but the Widnes registration district wasn't created until 1964 :
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/widnes.html
Kind regards,
Pels.
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I know how frustrating it is when you realise that your notes are not as accurate as you thought they were!! Many of us have been there. I have a note next to an entry for one of my lot where I have a date and next to it I have written 'How do I know this- prove it !!'
Probably the best way to make sure you get the right chap is to recheck your evidence ie birth, 1901 census, 1911 census, marriages if any, birth of children if any and any newer information you have and then you might be able to narrow down his death from the many Thomas Mitchells listed all over the country. Hope you find him.
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Thanks. I did re-check his birth and marriage ( he was my great grandfather). On checking with the rellies they all say he died in 1940.....some say Manchester and some say Widnes.
I still cannot find him and have no clue as to how/why I wrote that note. I have a copy of the birth and marriage certificate to Ada Hunt, but then he just dropped off the planet.
????
** as she bangs her head against wall** :)
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If they also thought Manchester, there's this one :
Death : March qtr, Vol 8d, Page 881
Thomas Mitchell
Birth Date: approx 1896
Aged 44 years
Registration district: Manchester
Pels.
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Thanks Pels.
Would I have to order the certificate to find out cause of death and exactly where he died i.e. address/place?
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I'm afraid you would have to order the certificate to find the information you need. Just looked again, I should have added the death was registered in 1940 to the above post.
Fingers crossed it's the right one ! :)
Pels.
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Hi
The registration district for Widnes was Prescot 1837 to 1964
Regards Marj
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Thanks for all the help. Much appreciated :D
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Now looking at another Thomas Mitchell (the uncle of the one I asked about before).
Born approx 1861 Ireland...have him on 1881 Census with his brother Timothy as a farm labourer. then have him 1901 living with his brother Timothy in Widnes.
Each time he has been single.
There is a possible listing on a census...listed as Single but as an inmate in Liverpool.
I have looked at the census but cannot see where he is an inmate? Any ideas?
TIA
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That Thomas Mitchell was an inmate in the Liverpool Workhouse and Infirmary, his occupation states Labourer, Bricklayer.
Pels.
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Do you have him in 1891 ?
There's a Thomas Mitchell aged 37, b. Ireland living as a boarder. His occupation states Alkaline Labourer. In 1901 he's a Chemical Labourer. The age would be closer to the above and I think the 1891 is yours.
Pels.
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Thanks Pels !
Was that a hospital and jail. What would people have been sent there for ???
It's all getting very interesting! I remember my nan saying that there was a "loony uncle"....might he have been him?
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Just checked and the address is 144a Brownlow Hill / 131 Mount Pleasant.
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Liverpool/
Thomas could have been in the Infirmary, if he had no one to care for him ! :( :(
Pels.
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Huge thanks Pel.
I def think it's my Thomas, as every census has him single, either as a lodger/boarder or living with his brother. when he is a lodger the addresses are very very near where his brother and family are staying. It's just I think his brother and wife also got older and maybe were unable / could not afford to look after him.
All very sad, but i think having heard that there was a batty uncle it could be him and possibly that is why he never married ???
Those places all looked exceptionally grim! :(
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It certainly makes you think ! :( This is quite interesting :
http://liverpoolhistorysocietyquestions.blogspot.com/2009/11/144a-brownlow-hill.html
Pels.