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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Devon => Topic started by: sedgarwilliams on Saturday 18 February 12 13:58 GMT (UK)
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I have traced back to Alexander MELHUISH who married Wilmote COLORIDGE at Broadclyst in 1692. Can anybody add anything to this tree please?
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Welcome to Rootschat sedgarwiliams
Dont know what information you have so will try and help,
If you require information about your ancestors its best to
put on your first post what you know so that others dont go
through lots of information you might already have as they
all do it for free.
I have looked on FamilySearch.org which is the Mormons free
site. You should be able to access it from wherever you are in the World
I think this is your family, although the wife is not supplied on this information and only the Father. Seemingly, the female were not as important as the male in those days, or maybe thats just my opinion.
Children of Alexander Melhuish. (By the way Huish is a village in Devon but I dont know what the Mel means)
Children
Alexander chris 18/4/1693 parent Alexander born at Broad Clyst
John Melhuish born at Broad Clyst chris 29/11/1694
Thomas chris 11/5/1697 " " "
Robert " 25/3/1703 " " "
William " 13/2/1705 " """
Nicholas " 13/2/1705 """""""
Nicholas " 17/10/1708 "" this could be because the twin Nicholas died they often had children afterwards with same name. Also if the child died shortly after birth they were not always registered as it was not the law in those days to do so.
If you need any help further, please ask and put more information on so we know what you know and what you want to know as it means lots of time spent on things you already know.
regards Sandymc
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Thank you very much and I'm sorry I didn't include all that I had.
Alexander married Wilmote COLORDIGE at Broadclyst on 14 July 1692. That is where my search stops and any information that takes me further back will be appreciated.
The information I have indicates that my line does actually come through Nicholas who married Anne Perry on 20 April 1742 at Broadclyst. Their son William, christened 18 March 1754 at Huxham married Tamzyn BROWN (or BROMAGER) on 8 May 1781 at Poltimore. Their son John was christened at Broadclyst on 21 July 1795 and he married Anne HANCOCK at Broadclyst on 1 September 1821. Their son William was christened at Pimperne in Dorset on 14 December 1823 and it was he who eventually found his way to London where his daughter married into the WILLIAMS line.
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A bit later but we may have a link.
Harriet Melhuish b about 1790 (and Broadclyst seems likely) m Robert Meade, surgeon; they lived in North Curry, 4 childrren, 2 d young, the other two went to Australia. Harriet d 1835 in North Curry; Robert remarried 1836 in North Curry Elizabeth Manning (nee Garnsey), widow of Richard Manning; 3 children, one of whom d young.
I do have a bit more info if you are interested - and I would love to be able to find Harriet's origins!
Graham
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Hi again,
Because Graham has put his ancestors were marrying around
the Devon/Somerset border I think this might be Alexander
born about 1663 parents.
Alexander Mellhuish married Dorothy Rowland at
Culmstock on 26th May 1663.
They did have a Alexander born 1875 at Uffculme who died in
1677 and that is 2.1 miles away from the marriage.
There is not another Alexander christened until about 1680ish
so maybe they waited to see if he survived before they paid
for the christening which had to be paid for at the Church.
They could have gone to BroadClyst to live or work as Devon
would have had occupations like farming, labouring and even
mining. So a travelling band of workers will have existed.
If you look at Devon Heritage which is a good site and maybe
join you might find all the details you are looking for. I did see
a great story of a Melhuish in the papers in 1916 who was in
the first World war and all his medals and honours, its very
interesting.
regards
Sandymc
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A bit later but we may have a link.
... the other two went to Australia. Harriet d 1835 in North Curry
Graham
Yes, they did and Elizabeth Penelope Meade married her cousin, Robert Garnsey Meade, and had a big family in Victoria.
Her brother Richard Crudge Meade was living with them too but died abt age 35 in an accident.
Incidentally, Graham, I've got some more details on your Mary Hannah G and her mum, Elizabeth Hurley - pedigrees nailed down but also some interesting stories that throw light on relationships. Drop me an email if you haven't already discovered it all. And glad to see you're not out playing golf ;)
Rob.
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Incidentally, Graham, I've got some more details on your Mary Hannah G and her mum, Elizabeth Hurley - pedigrees nailed down but also some interesting stories that throw light on relationships. Drop me an email if you haven't already discovered it all. And glad to see you're not out playing golf ;)
Rob.
I've sent a PM.....
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Hi, I would like more information on Alexanders son John born 1694. Marriage etc he is my 6 GGrandfather.
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Hi, I am also researching this family,would love to know more about this family. John Melhuish is my 6 GGF and would love to know more about his wife too. Tracy
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Hi Tracy
Welcome to Rootschat
Just to let you know you need to post 3 times or more before anyone can send
you a private mail on here. One more to go and you will be OK
Good Luck
regards Sandymc
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Thanks for that. Am also researching the Lewis, Lucas, Mellish, Dick families mainly of New Zealand.
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Graham, I am married to one of Harriet Melhuish's descendants....I have a few issues, I have finally found a baptism for a Harriet Meade, 24th April 1799, Somerset, with parents William and Joanna.....have you found potential parents?
Also, do you have any photos of Mary Hannah Garnsey Meade, I have a photo I am trying to identify? Regards, Narelle DeBoos
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Sadly I don't have a specific portrait of MHGM. What I do have is a posed family group portrait. I notice you've just joined RootsChat - welcome - you need to make a couple more posts before you can use the personal message system; once you've cleared that step, I'll send you an image of it.
The Meade family you mention doesn't match any I've got recorded but that doesn't mean that they aren't related.....
Graham
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Hi, sorry I wrote Meade instead of Melhuish, it was the Melhuish family that I was trying to find. Found that bit of info and wondered if it could fit with Harriet Melhuish, first wife of Robert Meade.
Mary Harriet Meade is her granddaughter, daughter of Elizabeth Penelope Meade and her cousin Robert Garnsey Meade, who settled in Euroa, Australia. She is my husband's great grandmother.
I have two photographs....one says, Dr Robert Meade, grandmother Meade's, (Elizabeth Penelope) brother.
The other says, Miss Meade sister of Uncle Robert.
The writing appears to be that of my husband's grandfather.
Uncle Robert could be his Grandmother's half brother Robert, his sister should be Grandmothers sister too shouldn't she??
You seem such a guru, thought you might have some hint! Thanks for the reply, sorry for the confusion, Narelle
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No, I don't know for sure on the Melhuish front -I have only one Melhuish pinned down and that is Harriet who d April 1835 in North Curry; there's a MI in the Lady Chapel there which states she was 45 which gives a d of b of about 1790. This would fit with your info: do you know anything more on that one?
Dr Robert Meade was Elizabeth Penelope's half-brother though I wouldn't have expected someone to caption a photo like that. As far as I can tell the family is like this:
Robert Meade, surgeon b 1792 Bishops Lydeard d Uffculme 1863 m Elizabeth Melhuish (date and place unknown)
children
Robert Axford Meade 1820-1825 [I wonder if his middle name holds a clue]
Elizabeth Penelope Meade 1821-69, d Longwood, Victoria
Charles Melhuish Meade 1823-25
Richard Crudge Meade 1825-61 d Longwood [again there might be a clue]. I know he married and had at least one daughter, would like to know more
Elizabeth Melhuish died 1835 and Robert Meade m Elizabeth Garnsey 1836. Elizabeth had previously been married to Richard Manning in 1826 but he died 1831 and I think the marriage was childless.
children
Robert 1838-75 studied at the Inner Temple but was never Called to the Bar; I think unmarried
Mary Hannah Garnsey Meade 1839-88 married William Parish Barrett, 10 children including my grandmother Nora Penelope Barrett
Frances Hurley White Meade 1842-5 [there is a Hurley connection in the Garnsey ancestry]
By elimination the only Miss Meades possible are MHGM and EPM; and the context eliminates EPM. Now MHGM married in 1861 in North Curry - so the photo needs to pre-date 1861 if this is the right piece of the jigsaw. The next step there is to date the photo: over to you!
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Golly Graham, I missed this note....now I have to concentrate, I found the mention of Harriet in Ancestry.....Somerset Extracted Parish records.....24 Apr 1799 24 Jan 1799 Harriet d, of Wm & Joanna Melhuish
Baptisms 1770-1812
Collection Bruton- Parish Registers, 1681-1812
Now Baptisms can be at any age can't they?
Now Richard Crudge Meade - married Sarah Matthews Drew.
I picked up his will a couple of weeks ago, he only had one living daughter but I found birth records for a few more children....Susan Henrietta Meade 1856-1859, Frederick William Meade 1858-1859 then the surviving child, Constance Matthews Drew Meade born 1861, found her living in England with Mary Theodore Brown, (boarder) in 1911, at age 50, she passed away in 1935 3 rd June , she left her £1121 .11 s to Mary!
Now you have thrilled me with dates for Robert Axford,....I have him on the tree but have found no record of him anywhere, so dates are thrilling, and him having died early makes more reason to have a second Robert.
Charles too...I had no dates for him either, where did you find those dates?
I knew Elizabeth was Joanna's second cousin...(Thomas and Elizabeth Hannah Hurley Meade).but again have a birth date 1803 but no marriage date or death.
Big mystery...I have no Frances Hurley White Meade....okay found his birth , saved it to my shoebox and it was already there, probably the Hurley triggered my interest! Doesn't mention parents.
Notice he died at 3!
See I think Mary Hannah Garnsey Meade is the only possible one too, but my friend Kate who is a descendent of Susan Meade ( daughter of Henry White Meade) wanted it to be her!
I will change computers and can send the photos to you, regards Narelle
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Graham, I am having a blonde moment....I cannot find the forum, we are communicating on, through my iPad, where I can easily find the send photos button......on my main computer, which holds the photos, you have not turned up as a person who has contacted me, it says Baby Boomer is my only contact, so I will persist but it may need you to contact me however it works so I can just respond....sorry, I am way too new at this!!
If I can work out how to send photos I will do it, Narelle
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okay, I've worked it out, so the first photo is Dr Robert Meade, I originally assumed his middle name was Garnsey, so it is incorrecty labelled.
The second photo is the Miss Meade one.....I will send the backs next...I'm on a roll now, Nrel
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Fantastic, wonderful, takes me back another generation, I am so grateful!
Here are my two pictures, nowhere near as helpful.
The first is the Barrett family (William Parish Barrett and Mary Hannah Garnsey Meade and children); unsure of who is who here. The second is a collection of Barretts and Simons - my guess is at a wedding, and the likely hits would be my grandfather Frederic Dyke Sydney Simons' wedding to Nora Penelope Barrett, 19th April 1900, or his brother Dr Charles Edward Glascodine Simons' wedding to her sister Wilhelmina Elizabeth Barrett 27th April 1894.
I've had to compress the files a bit to post them, but I could email full versions via personal message if you like.
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...and this link will help with dating:especially if the back of Miss Meade's photo has anything on it...
http://www.childsweb.talktalk.net/studios/hughes.htm
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Hi I thought I had killed the whole system, it told me, it needed to stop and I had to go away for an hour.....I'm back but it is after 2am......so I have now added the back of Miss Meade....who looks an awful lot like the woman in the first photo...maybe I am being hopeful.....the second photo is of Johanna Apperley (Meade) Gill, who came across on the Bark Calendonia with her husband John Gill (architect) and brother Robert Garnsey Meade and sister, Susan Meade, who wrote the wonderful diary which my friend and I recently visited in the National Library, Canberra (Australia). Miss Meade went on to be the Nanny to Governor La Trobe and his wife Sophie's children, a very desirable nanny as she spoke fluent French. Interesting relationship developed between her and Sophie.
I also have a, not particularly good, rendition of Robert Garnsey Meade, from a booklet!
I love your two photos, I can't reciprocate in such glamour as I only have a few DeBoos weddings.
As I told Baby Boomer, we have found out a lot of information about Susan Meade as her husband was compelled to paint so much of the scenery of early Melbourne (only the 1840's not early by your standards), he is also exhibited in the State Library of Victoria, where they hold over 180 of his paintings and sketches, I have a few more photos but am not sure how much of the Austraalian branches of the family actually interest you, good night, Narelle
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Graham, wow I hadn't remembered the photo had the details on the front, so thought you were very clever with that link.....so it seems to say mid 1880's,
the Dr Robert Meade one is from..
the London Stereoscopic and Photographic Company
110 Regent Street,
under the patronage of her Majesty
and at Cheapside
(feel like I'm in Pride and Prejudice)
at the bottom it seems to say
sole photographers to the international exhibition 1862...
so that puts Robert's photograph in the late 1800's
Do you think that baptism is our Harriet Melhuish??
Really going to sleep now, Narelle
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Graham, don't mean to be a stalker but if that is Mary Hannah Garnsey Meade in that photo you have posted, then I think I have the younger version, they have the same hairline and nose.......do you agree???
Really going this time.....you've left me with some homework for my trees! Night, Narelle
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Graham, just realised, though the time frame looks too late for her to be Miss Meade.....Rodney's grandfather was writing about his Grandmother's relative, so might not have thought about whether she was married at the time or not....but it looks like the photo was taken in 1867 or thereabouts, though the article says the Queen and the Royal family....the photo says the Queen and H.R.H the Prince of Wales, so that might further qualify it....Narelle
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Golly Graham, I missed this note....now I have to concentrate, I found the mention of Harriet in Ancestry.....Somerset Extracted Parish records.....24 Apr 1799 24 Jan 1799 Harriet d, of Wm & Joanna Melhuish
Baptisms 1770-1812
Collection Bruton- Parish Registers, 1681-1812
Now you have thrilled me with dates for Robert Axford,....I have him on the tree but have found no record of him anywhere, so dates are thrilling, and him having died early makes more reason to have a second Robert.
Charles too...I had no dates for him either, where did you find those dates?
I've looked at the geography now and I don't really see why, if Harriet was b in Broadclyst, she'd be bap 57 miles away in Bruton - unless there is another story to tell!
My info on Robert Axford Meade, Charles Melhuish Meade and Frances Hurley White Meade all comes from a brass MI in the Lady Chapel at North Curry. I've PMed you a couple of headstones from there, too. Lovely church, loads of history. Angela Dix has written an excellent history, North Curry: a Place in History.