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Title: Pub History: Shropshire
Post by: crofton142 on Friday 17 February 12 19:53 GMT (UK)

Hi,
Could anyone give me clues as to how I go about finding out the history of a pub.
My ggg grandfather Richard Cartwright- was a Saddler & Innkeeper at the Hawkstone Arms in New Street, Wem Shropshire.

TIA
Tanja

Title: Re: PUB HISTORY: SHROPSHIRE
Post by: stanmapstone on Friday 17 February 12 19:58 GMT (UK)

I don't know if this helps but The Hawkstone Arms, New Street, Wem, is listed in Pigot & Co.'s Directory of 1835, landlord John Lee. http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/


Stan

Title: Re: PUB HISTORY: SHROPSHIRE
Post by: crofton142 on Friday 17 February 12 20:03 GMT (UK)

Thank you.

I have him there on the 1861, 1871 and 1881 Census

Title: Re: Pub History: Shropshire
Post by: Black Night on Saturday 18 February 12 12:23 GMT (UK)

Hi  The Hawkstone was a Wem Ales pub . Wem Ales were taken over by Greenall Whitley Brewerys. Jack Hanby the  Head Brewer for Wem Ales took over the old Wem Brewery and now brews Hanby Ales.   Greenall's, I believe are a Northen Company  from Warrington!!!! (not sure).  Jack Hanby's are still based in Wem . Maybe a letter to both could help you with your quest. Good hunting BN.

Title: Re: Pub History: Shropshire
Post by: crofton142 on Saturday 18 February 12 12:25 GMT (UK)

Thanks for the addtional research options. I will send them the details and see if anything comes of it.

Title: Re: Pub History: Shropshire
Post by: Black Night on Saturday 18 February 12 12:29 GMT (UK)

Hi again. I noticed you have Rellies in your tree from Cheshire. ie. Mottram's. My former Partner was a Mottram from Cheshire . Could there be a link?  BN

Title: Re: Pub History: Shropshire
Post by: crofton142 on Saturday 18 February 12 12:33 GMT (UK)

Have a John Mottram b 1857 Bunbury married to Harriet Wilson b 1857 Bunbury??? Harriet died in childbirth and John Mottram remarried Frances Dutton

Title: Re: Pub History: Shropshire
Post by: Black Night on Saturday 18 February 12 12:43 GMT (UK)

The right area Bunbury is close to Nantwich and Crewe which is where her rellies came from. I'll look a little deeper.   Her name is Janet and her father is called Kenneth.

Title: Re: Pub History: Shropshire
Post by: harrywrag on Saturday 18 February 12 15:37 GMT (UK)

found this dated august 1870 sherrett on the 5th inst aged 65 mr william sherrett of the hawkstone arms new street whem just wondering if its an inn

Title: Re: Pub History: Shropshire
Post by: crofton142 on Saturday 18 February 12 15:40 GMT (UK)

Hi Harry...not too sure now. On the census he is listed as Saddler and Innkeeper and in a later census he is listed as Hotel Proprietor???

Title: Re: PUB HISTORY: SHROPSHIRE
Post by: s.g.d. on Wednesday 14 March 12 23:02 GMT (UK)

Quote from: crofton142 on Friday 17 February 12 20:03 GMT (UK)

Thank you.

I have him there on the 1861, 1871 and 1881 Census

he was still there in 1895 but had gone by 1899.

s.g.d.