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Could someone please look up a John Metcalf on the 1871 census. On the 1881 census his details are:
John Metcalf age 22 Head Tallow Chandler
Mary Jane Metcalf age 20 Sister
Matthew R Metcalf age 13 Brother
Frances A R Metcalf age 11Sister
Joseph Bell Metcalf age 8 Brother
Living at 17 Gisland Street, Bishop Wearmouth
I'm particularly interested in finding out the name of John Metcalf's parents
Thanks in advance Jo x
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Hi the ref is RG10 Piece 5009 Folio 59 Page 54
Parents are John and Jane and John's father is also living with them also called John. He's age 79. They are in Bishop wearmouth looks like south durham street
John age 49
jane age 42
catherine 17
hannah 14
mary j 10
frances a 1
john 12
matthew r 3
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Hi as a continuation of 1871 Jane's maiden name would appear to be Ross.
1861 Census
John 39
Jane .32
Catherine 7
Hannah 4
John 2
Mary J 5 months
Matthew Ross 56 Father in Law
Frances Ross 28 Sister in Law
Census ref RG09/3775/65/63
Keyboard86
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Hi again, an abridged 1851 for John:-
John Metcalf 58 occ Foreman Tallow Chandler b Sunderland
Mary 57 b Bishopswear
John 29 occ Tallow Chandler b Sunderland
Hannah 15 b Sunderland
Joseph B 12
Residing at 21, Lambard Street, Sunderland
Census ref HO107/2397/410/45
Keyboard86
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Hi again, possible Mother in Law for John Metcalf snr?
1841 census
John MITCALF 47
Mary 46
John 18
Catherine 11
Hannah 6
Joseph 2
Phillis Oats 75
Same address as 1851
Census ref HO107/321/ 9/21/37
Keyboard86
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Hi again, in 1851 Jane is aged 22 and a Housemaid for John and Jane Fleming
Census ref HO107/2396/345/19
1841 census
Matthew Ross 35
Mary 35
Jane 12
John 10
Frances 8
Alice 8
Mary 4
Dorothy 2
Residing at Warren Street, Sunderland
Census ref HO107/321/ 5/25/ 44
Keyboard86
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Hi again, possible marriages:-
John Metcalf to Jane Ross March 1852 Sunderland 10a 373
John Metcalf to Mary Flood 27th December 1820 Sunderland
Matthew Ross to Mary Forster 21st January 1826 Bishopwearmouth
But possible baptism John Metcalf 2nd July 1821 Sunderland Father John Mother Mary Gates?
Keyboard86
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Wow! Thank you all so very very much! That's more information that I could ever have hoped for. Gives me a lot more information to work on. Thanks again x
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But possible baptism John Metcalf 2nd July 1821 Sunderland Father John Mother Mary Gates?
Hmm got me wondering now whether Phillis Oats on 1841 census could be Phillis Gates or Mary Gates could be Mary Oats & it's been mis-transcribed?
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Think I've found a possible sollution:
Marriage 24 Feb 1816
groom's name: John Motealfe
bride's name: Mary Oates
marriage date: 24 Feb 1816
marriage place: Bishop- Wearmouth, Durham, England
source film number: 1514547
reference number: item 1 p 141
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Hi again, that marriage looks good, as this looks to be the christening of Mary:-
Mary Oates 11th May 1794 Bishops Wearmouth Father Anthony Mother Phillis
Keyboard86
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Mary Oates was baptised in
Bishopwearmouth but born Deptford
Anthony Oates was buried 21 Jul 1839, age 71, of Ayers Quay
A few Phillis burials but they were children, none older up to 1839 in BWM
Janis
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This will help--a brother to Mary Oates, baptism BWM
Robert Oates, born 1 Jun 1808, baptised 14 Jun 1809 3rd son of Anthony Oates, Labourer, native of Hamsterley by his wife Phillis Robson, native of North Sunderland (this is the North Sunderland that is now in Northumberland I think as others on the page just said Sunderland)
There are many other siblings. Places of parents nativity the same--Hamsterley and North Sunderland
Hamsterely St. James baptisms page 1778, page 26
Anthony and Hannah, son and Daur (twins) baptised 31 May 1778 of Anthony and Mary Oats of Hamsterley
Bamburgh, Northumberland baptisms
Phillis Robson baptised 29 Aug 1773 daur of Thomas and Ann Robson of Budle
Janis
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Anthony Oates was buried 21 Jul 1839, age 71, Ayers Quay
Would Ayers Quay be the area he was living at the time of his death or the Cemetery where he was burried? As from what I can find out on the internet the only Cemetery at Ayers Quay was a small Jewish cemetery, which was in use at the time of his burial.
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Place he died, not the Jewish Cemetery. That would be where he lived (and died) most likely. The burial would be in Bishopwearmouth churchyard.
Phillis buried 4 Sep 1842, of Lombard Street, age 68, died 2 Sep 1842, widow of Anthony Oates, labourer. Buried Sunderland Holy Trinity
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Thanks every so much once again, I've learned so much in the last 24 hours :)
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The best John Medcalf I have found was baptised in Sunderland Holy Trinity
John Midcaff born 16 Oct 1792, baptised 13 Jan 1793 son of Thomas and Uphanna
Janis
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Hi again, their would appear to be these siblings also for Mary:-
Thomas Oats Birth 29th Sept 1795 Baptism 18th February 1798
Ann Birth 11th Feb 1797 Baptism 18th Feb 1798
Catherine Birth 4th June 1804 Baptism 2nd Sept 1804
Phillis 10th May 1816
Anthony b 4th July 1802
Catherine 18th April 1813
All born Bishops Wearmouth, parents Anthony and Phillis
Burials Catherine 14th Feb 1809 Bishops Wearmouth
Burial Phillis Oates 20th August 1820 aged 4 Ayres Quay
Could this be the marriage of Anthony to Phillis?
Anthony YATES to Philis Robson 14th April 1793 Houghton Le Spring, Durham
Keyboard86
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The best John Medcalf I have found was baptised in Sunderland Holy Trinity
John Midcaff born 16 Oct 1792, baptised 13 Jan 1793 son of Thomas and Uphanna
Janis
That would tally with two of John Metcalf & Mary Oates children being called Thomas & Euphemia
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Could this be the marriage of Anthony to Phillis?
Anthony YATES to Philis Robson 14th April 1793 Houghton Le Spring, Durham
Keyboard86
It could well be, the year would be about right, making Phillis 20 when she married :)
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Hi,
I have this family too.
John Metcalf b1792 was the son of Thomas Metcalf and Euphemia Adamson.
I do not know any more about the Metcalfs but I do know Euphemia was the daughter of Cumberland Adamson and Jane Bell
He was born 25 June 1746 at St. Andrews Fife. Named Cumberland after the Duke of Cumberland.
I believe Jane was born 2 Jan 1747 but not 100% sure.
He died 15 June 1826 in Sunderland Poorhouse and she died 16 April 1823 in Sunderland PoorHouse
His father was Robert Adamson b1710 Northbank St. Andrews. Died 14 May 1784 St Andrews. He Was a Maltman Burgess and Guild Brother in St Andrews.
He married Euphem Gosman c1717 in Anstruther Fife. She died 25 Dec 1802 in St Andrews.
His father was Robert Adamson died 4th Nov 1751 at St Andrews. He was a Tennant in Northbank St Andrews and a Guild Brother.
He was married twice His first wife being either Jean or Joan Scott and that was Roberts mother. His second wife was Margaret Donaldson.
Hope this helps.
Judy
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Hi Janis,
Please could you tell me where you got this birth from?
"Bamburgh, Northumberland baptisms
Phillis Robson baptised 29 Aug 1773 daur of Thomas and Ann Robson of Budle"
Have been looking for her birth for some time but not able to find one that fitted quite right. The parents names also fit in with her children which is a bonus.
Judy
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I have a transcript of the Bamburgh parish baptisms 1758-1812. I would imagine this entry is in the Bamburgh parish record.
Janis
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Thank you, much appreciated. I have found her difficult to find.
Judy
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Funnily enough I am just on my way up to Fife this week to reseach the Adamsons a little more. Hopefully will get something!
So watch this space! ;)
Now I've said that I do hope I can find more out.
Judy ;D
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Didn't find out anything else about the Adamson's :'( but found where some of the family lived. :) The Fife area is worth a visit - especially along the coast.
Judy