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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Derbyshire => Topic started by: millwright on Friday 17 February 12 16:03 GMT (UK)
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My 2x grand father Matthew Jackson born Belper 1792 died Oldham June 1864 aged 72, married Elizabeth Kenyon in the parish of Duffield 2 April 1820.
Marriage witnessed by John and Joel Jackson, can anyone help me to determine what relationship the witnesses were to Matthew and if possible Matthew's parents.
Living in Canada makes it difficult for research in Derbyshire, any information will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you in advance.
Roy.
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hello and welcome to rootschat ;D ;D
Here's something to get us started..
Possible baptism for Joel
Baptism Joel Jackson
1800 INDEPENDENT,BELPER AND HEAGE,DERBY,ENGLAND
Parents John and Mary
Baptism Nanny Jackson
and another name which may come in handy later
birth: 05 May 1796 christening: 02 Aug 1796
INDEPENDENT,BELPER AND HEAGE,DERBY,ENGLAND
Parents John and Mary
Milly
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Or there is a Joel Jackson in Belper in 1851 -
Widower, born Belper living as a Lodger
HO107/2233 page 50
Alice Parry age 56
Robert B Parry age 16
John Parry age 14
Phoebe Parry age 6
Thomas Hurst age 28
Michael Shorrock age 25
Joel Jackson age 44 Lodger widower born Belper (Some confusion on original as to whether this is male or female)
Benjamin Jackson age 50 Lodger widower born Belper
Address: Lees Sq. Ashton Under Lyne
Benjamin's poss baptism
birth: 03 Feb 1806 christening: 27 Mar 1806
INDEPENDENT,BELPER AND HEAGE,DERBY,ENGLAND
Parents John Jackson and Dorothy
Milly
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HI
Might be worthwhile keeping this Family in mind 1841 Census Living in the Parish of Duffield
Derbyshire All born in County of Derbyshire
HO107 180 9 13
Age
John Jackson 40 Occupation Farmer
Mary Jackson 30
John Jackson 8
Benjamin Jackson 7
Joseph Jackson 5
Ann Jackson 3
William Jackson 1
Hannah Wightman 14
Joseph Alldsead 25
Regards
Pughy
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Thanks to Milly and Pughy for their posts, the information certainly looks promising.
Thanks,
Roy.
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I was hoping to find a baptism for Matthew (and a John) at the same place with same parents...unfortunately I didn't ::)
My guess would be that John and Joel are his brothers. with perhaps John being first born son to parents John and Mary.... but there is not enough evidence to prove or disprove this.
Alternatively, John could be the father.
And sadly the nearest baptism I can see is Matthew Jackson
19 May 1793 BOLSOVER,DERBY,ENGLAND
Parents Richard Jackson and Ann
or
18 May 1808 BOLSOVER,DERBY,ENGLAND
Parents Peter Jackson and Sarah
Bolsover is currently about 15 miles from Belper so it may not be the right one
Milly
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Milly,
I also saw the baptism for Matthew at Bolsover from the IGI records, my cousin and i had come to the conclusion that John and Joel Jackson were brothers of Matthew but more evidence is needed. One trait they all had was the occupation of miner, until a son of Matthew died at 17 possibly through contracting dropsy in his occupation of miner in Oldham. The rest of the male line then switched to being rope makers a safer occupation than mining.
Best regards,
Roy.
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A frustrating little mystery ???
Milly