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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cornwall => Topic started by: seekersue on Thursday 16 February 12 17:37 GMT (UK)
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Hi
This is my first post. I am looking to find the birth and death of the above. I have found that he married in 1887 I think to Phillipa Glasson CHARD. I have found that Phillipa was a widow according to the 1891 census, however I can find no record of Benedict's death and do not know how old he was when he was married.
I would be very greatful for any help with my reserch.
Sue
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Hi and a warm welcome
I see from the 1891 (RG12 1854 114 22) that Philippa is in St Ives Cornwall, age 28, 2 children age 2 and 9 mths, and numerous Chard siblings.
There are several births on FreeBMD of Benedict Quicks, in Cornwall (though of course he may have been born elsewhere) so without some more info about him we wont know which is him.
Have you got the marriage cert?
That would be a good place to begin. It should give a father for Benedict, an occupation, an address maybe, and hopefully even an age, so might help pinpoint him in a previous census before his marriage and untimely death.
(Out of interest have you seen 1901 - Phillipa has remarrried to a Mr Farrell RG13 2249 95 10)
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Family Search has the marriage -gives Benedict's father as James and Benedict's age is 26 yrs.
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There's a 9 month old child on 1891, so that points to a death in the previous 18 months
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Strong contender here in 1871 RG10 2334 /73 / 25
with parents James and Mary and several siblings in St Ives
Father is a shoemaker and some brothers are miners but one brother is a mariner.
The certificate would give you his occupation.
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Couldn't see him in 1881 - however I note that if the several of his brothers (assuming it is him in St Ives) are fishermen. so possibly lost at sea?
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Yes he was a mariner on his marriage:
http://west-penwith.org.uk/ivesmar11.htm
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Thank you all very much for your help. I see from the St Ives marrages that Wilmot Chard was a witness; she is my great grand mother.
I thought myself that he was likely to have died at sea, is that why I cannot find any record? I am ignorant of these things.
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He certainly did die young. Maybe if he was lost at sea there could be an obituary or report in a local paper.
5 Dec 1887 by Banns
Benedict Quick 26 bachelor Mariner of St. Ives (Father: James Quick, Cordwainer)
Philippa Glasson Chard 24 spinster of St. Ives (Father: Nicholas Wedge Chard, Mariner)
Witnesses: J. Chard, Wilmot Chard
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Hello all my interest is Chard families in St Ives
and to seekersue Wilmot Chard was my granfathers sister,
she married Thomas-----[surname withheld] with a clue
the birds &bees.
Your line starts with Oliver Chard born 1777 Pitminster
Somerset.
Our family history
Glasson,Uren,Trewhella,Quick, Chard
Hope to hear from you
Regards roadrunner2
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Hello roadrunner2
There are still Chard's in St Ives, by coincidence I am related to one; John Chard on my Mothers side, he married my first cousin. all I know about his connection to the Honeys is that it was through an illegitimate line. I am a great grand daughter of Wilmot Chard, as you know she married Thomas Honey. Our family business was established by Wilmot when my fathers Grandparents shared the Chard family home in Fore Street St Ives. Wilmot's brother Robert was a Cobbler which may have given Wilmot the idea of knitting socks for the local fishermen to supplement the family income. It was soon evident that knitting socks by hand could not meet demand and the decision was taken to buy a machine, this was so successful that more machines were purchased and soon the business took off. By the time my father came along in 1924 there was a shop and factory. You may know this information already. Wilmot and Thomas had two children Thomas (my Grandfather) and a daughter known as Motty who died quite young; she is buried in Barnoon cemetery which overlooks the sea at Porthmere. This is really all I know about the Chard family. I hope it is helpful to you. My father is still alive and has written a potted history of the family but it is mostly about the Honey side. Sue
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The inscription on the gravestone at Barnoon Cemetery, St Ives reads as follows:
"Wilmot Honey only daughter of Thomas and Wilmot Honey 14/5/1923 27 also Thomas 23/7/1941 72"
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Hello Seekersue Sorry for delay i have been refused access to this site.
my records show that Thomas Honey/Wimot Chard had 3chijdren
Thomas[ your family]
Cyril
Wilmot [motty]
I understand that after 3messages we can pass[PM]
Regards roadrunner2
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Me again i am a member of a Forum 4 of us are distant cousins.
Ian, Sue,Quicksilver AND Me.
Benedict is a mistery, we have spent hours searching
The bottom line is how she could marry 3yrs after he
disappeared
regards roadrunner 2
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Re Oliver Chard
born 1777
1st marr `1794 Pitminster Somerset
2ndmarr 1798 Truro Cornwall
3rd marr 1823 St Ives Cornwall
Died Jan 1841 St Ives[ Killed working accident]
Regards roadrunner2
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Hi... I have Benedict Quick on my Family Tree in Ancestry down as being drowned at sea in 1890. Youre wellcom to view my Tree on Ancestry. Look for Chard Family Tree.
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Just a couple of thoughts that might help.
If the vessel he was on was known to have gone down, he would likely have been considered to have drowned and be dead, and there would be no need to wait until the 7-year presumption of non-bigamy, I think. The 7 years really was just a defence against a bigamy charge: if it had been 7 years since someone disappeared, the remarried spouse could not be alleged to have committed bigamy. I'm sure there were many instances where men, especially, disappeared in clear circumstances indicating death and no one would have thought the woman was remarrying bigamously. (candychris, what is needed, though, is to know why you have that in your tree. ;) )
There is a Benedict Quick birth registered in Penzance reg dist (covers St Ives) in June quarter 1860. Is that not the obvious birth? I just wonder since the original question says seekersue is looking for the birth. I guess having his age from the marriage certificate was the essential clue.
Heywood posted an 1871 census and there is an 1861 census to match, but he seems to have been entered as Bennet, father James a cordwainer.