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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Australia Lookups completed => Topic started by: dracon1a on Wednesday 15 February 12 22:55 GMT (UK)
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Hello, I am hoping some kind person can do a look up in Tasmania for me.
I am after a marriage certificate for William and Margaret Gaylor.
According to her death certificate they were married in White Hills near Launceston age unknown. Her Victorian DCert states she died 3 May 1904 aged 78........but also says she was born in Nth Ireland where she spent 30yrs, 15 yrs in Tasmania and 15 yrs in Victoria which adds up to 60????. She had three daughters who are listed on the 1904 DCert as being aged
Ellen 54, Ada 43 and Eva 38. Ada was supposed to have been born in Tas. in 1860 but have not been able to get a birth certificate for that from TBDM. Maiden name for Margaret is listed as unknown but it is supposed to be Gee or maybe Morris. She was also supposed to have been married before which may account for the large gaps between the children.
I hope this enough info and that the dates are not too vague. Proving to be a hard person to trace. Thanks Lauren
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Baptisms
GEE Henry
Father Henry Mother Margaret
31 May 1846
At Evandale 3220/1847
GEE Elizabeth
Father Henry Mother Margaret
29 Mar 1847
At Launceston Reg#5924/1865
Possibly Henry's death :-\
GEE Henry
Parents not recorded
17 Sep 1853 49 years At Morven Reg#123/1853
Marriage
GALOR William
GEE Margaret
12 Jan 1854
At Morven Reg#1187/1854
Births
GAYLOR Female - name not recorded
Father William Mother Margaret MORRIS
6 Nov 1860
Registered at Launceston Reg#461/1860
GAYLOR Female - name not recorded
Father William Mother Margaret MORRIS
9 Dec 1863
Registered at Launceston Reg#18/1864
Cando
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Death of young Henry
GEE Henry
22 Feb 1851 5 years At Morven Reg#54/1851
Cando
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You have been given the marriage information previously on another thread.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,529146.0.html
Is this Wm's death?
GAYLOR William
22 May 1876 75 years at Launceston Reg#3056/1876
Cando
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Australian Electoral Roll
1903
GAYLOR Margaret Surrey Hills HD
Cando
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Could be Margaret's arrival
http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=91
GEE Mr & Mrs and daughter MAYFLOWER 7 Mar 1845 CSO92/1/14 P49
Cando
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Many thanks Cando for the extra info. I know I have had some from here before and that was how I got onto Margarets death cert. and it had the place, White Hills, where they were married. The extra info I have now received helps even more. Also I don't think it can be Williams death unless he moved back to Tassie. Margaret died in Victoria aged 78. Haven't had a look for William yet. Can only do a bit at a time. Would love to be able to follow them all properly but can't.
Many thanks for the look up Regards Lauren :) :)
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Is this Wm's death?
GAYLOR William
22 May 1876 75 years at Launceston Reg#3056/1876
Also I don't think it can be Williams death unless he moved back to Tassie
I am a bit puzzled here.....how do you know William and Margaret moved to Victoria before 1876? I wouldn't be dismissing this death as GAYLOR is an unusual name.
You mentioned the details from Margaret's death cert. Information on death certificates is not always accurate.
Margaret arrived in Tasmania in 1845.
Married -date unknown - Henry GEE
Two children baptised 1846 and 1847.
Remarries Wm GAYLOR 1854
Two birth registrations of unnamed females 1860 and 1863.
Daughter Ada marries 1883 Victoria
Margaret dies Victoria 1904 aged 78 years.
.but also says she was born in Nth Ireland where she spent 30yrs, 15 yrs in Tasmania and 15 yrs in Victoria which adds up to 60?
Lauren
I think you have misinterpreted the information death certificate. Looking at another Victorian death certificate in the period the columns are headed.....with your info inserted.
Where Born, and Years in the Colony stating which
Ireland. 30 years - 15 in Tasmania and 15 in Victoria.
What is in the column
IF THE DECEASED WAS MARRIED.
[1] Where, and at what [2] Age. and to [3] Whom.
Information on death certificates is only a good as the knowledge of the informant. Who was the informant on Margaret's death cert?
Cheers
Cando
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Hi Cando, Ooops, Grey moment!! ::) I thought each entry was a seperate time zone!! That makes a big difference and yes it most probably is Williams death in 1876 aged 75 as he would have been born in 1801 so the age of 75 fits perfect. Margaret would have been 50 at his death then moved to Victoria in 1889 at age of 63. William is listed as a schoolmaster on his daughter Ada's wedding cert. 1883 in Vic. sooo I assumed he was there!!!! Ooops again! ::)
Her son-in-law Joseph Allen, Adas husband is the informant on Margarets death cert. Have sorted out a few knots and am doing a time line for her. A hard life by the looks of it.
Many thanks Lauren :)
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As I mentioned previously, information on death certificates is not always reliable. Margaret may not have been in Victoria for 15 years. Was she a witness at her daughter's marriage in 1883?
If you add Born in Ireland to my summary, you have a timeline for Margaret.
How do you know Wm GAYLOR was born c1801? Simply trying to validate the information.
The following may be useful....
A Mr Henry GEE involved in the death of man at his home. 1846
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ke7/
1849
Insolvent Louisa GEE seeking discharge which mentions a property transfer for her brother Henry GEE.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ke8/
http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=92
Louisa GEE Licensee Australian and Tasmanian Hotel, Wellington Street, Launceston, 1850
HTG 29 Sep 1850 1850
1851 census Louisa at Launceston
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0kea/
Letters of Administration for Henry GEE who died intestate in 1854. Citations by his brothers William and Thomas.
http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=9
Wm GAYLOR, keeper of a public house on the Sand Hill 1854
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ke2/
Mention of Wm GAYLOR Launceston 1855
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0kdy/
Wm GAYLOR resides near Longford 1856
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0kdz/
Wm GAYLOR on electoral roll 1856 Norfolk Plains, residence Longford
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ke3/
Wm GAYLOR pigstealing 1867
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ke0/
Wm GAYLOR sentenced two years
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ke1/
No Wm GAYLOR snippets post 1867.
Cheers
Cando
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Hi Cando,
Oh I have a headache trying to take in all of that! Pub owners! Hmm On Adas marriage cert. William Gaylor is listed as Schoolmaster!
Also about the date of birth for William I am only guessing. If, as you have stated he died 22May 1876 aged 75 he would have been born sometime in 1801, yes?
Will spend some time looking at these links. Considering I was only having a looksee at Margaret and her husband William Gaylor. Her daughter Ada Gaylor was my maternal GGGrandmother and was trying to find a bit more about her life.
Many thanks,
Lauren ;D
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William Gaylor is listed as Schoolmaster!
Mmmm well if dad had a bit of a past one wouldn't be absolutely accurate would one ;)
I haven't stated anything about Wm's death ...I have transcribed a death registration from the Tas Indexes. Once again info on death certificates not always accurate as you have already found with Margaret's dc.
I can't find two Wm GAYLOR's in Tas pre 1867.
I think you probably need to look at the GAYLOR's on the indexes in Tas and have a trawl through TROVE as well.
Cheers
Cando
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Dear Cando,
My apologies, wrong choice of word. As I wrote before, I was only having a look to see if I could find a bit about Adas parents. I have found more than I knew before but will now drop it. Thanks for your efforts.
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Lauren it helps with the 'housekeeping' if you would now modify the heading on your initial post to include COMPLETED :)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,369709.0.html
Cheers :)
Cando