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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: allang on Monday 13 February 12 11:24 GMT (UK)
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Can anyone help with an Australian or New Zealand connection to John Martin who married Ann Mould 1844 in Staffordshire, England. Possible connection with the family name of Giblin
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Hi
What makes you think there was an Australian connection? Did he come to Australia, or his children?
mum mum
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The marriage took place at Penkridge rego Staffs
March qtr 1844.
Did they leave for Oz after this or would they be in 1851 cenus, hard to find without a birth year for John.
TinaM
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Ann was born c 1822 Haughton and John c 1822 Lighford, Staffs.
HO107/1999/534/8
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Ann was the Illeg Daughter of MARY Mould Christened 17 Feb 1822, St Giles, Haughton. Mothers Occp Servant, Abode Dale.
(Source FreeREG)
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I cant find them after 1861 Census.
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Hello Trish
I think John Martin died in 1870. I have looked at freereg.com but could not find anything about Ann Mould. How did you find her?
Allan
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Hello mum mum
I put my family tree on 'My heritage.com'. I got a message this week from someone in Australia or New Zealand who had exact matches for John and Ann Martin (nee Mould) and their children. I would like to contact this person (named Giblin) to find out more. John and Ann Martin were my wifes gg grandparents.
Allan
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Tks Trish for finding them in 1851 cesus Staffs.
John and Ann are both 29rs with little John 5 and baby Ann 10 mnths.
TinaM :)
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The 1851 census Ho.107/1999 does show John and Ann aged 29 (John is a farmer of 20 acres) but shows daughter Ann is 5 years old and son John is 10 months.
Allan
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Hi Allan,
Its not Freereg.com but this site;
www.freereg.org.uk
She is definitely there under Anne (with a E) Mould :)
There is also a MARY Mould Christened 18 Nov 1792, Haughton, Parents JOSEPH/MARY
(not sure as she would be 30 when Anne was born, not impossible, but illeg Children were mostly to younger Women)
There is also a MARY Mould, 16 Nov 1800, Willenhall, to BENJAMIN/ANN
And interestingly a Mary Mould married a Richard THOMPSON 07 April 1822, St Peters, Wolverhampton. A Witness was a JOSEPH Mould.
A JOSEPH Mould Married same day, same Church, Witness Richard THOMPSON.
Is hard tp prove if this is your Mary Mould, Mother of Ann/e.
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1861 census John/Ann have a Son Arthur born c 1860, Haughton.
Trees have him emigrating to Australia 1886.
He is easy to find 1881 but may be down as a Orphan in 1871, born c 1860, Apeton, Staffs, living with the Wright Family in Church Eaton.RG10/2921/56/4
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Maybe this adds up now???
1792 Mary may be yours;
JOSEPH Mould, Buried 02 January 1867, St Giles, Haughton, Staffordshire
Age 71 (Birth c 1797)
Abode ,The Dale
Joseph MOULD Christened 03 Jan 1796, Haughton, to JOSEPH/MARY
The Dale address seems interesting as Ann was born there 1822.
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I am not sure about the Marriage to Richard Thompson for Mary as his Wife seems to be born c 1800.
Burial in Haughton;
MARY Mould, 23 April 1830, age 76, Abode The Dale
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Hello Trish
Thank you for all your hard work. John and Ann Martin had another 2 sons after Arthur who was born 1860 (christrned 25/3/1860), they were Aaron (born 6/7/1862 and Amos born 1864. Both of them were living as boarders with George and Ann Taylor in 1871, again in Church Eaton. Aaron was my wifes g grandfather.
In 1881 Arthur worked as a railway shunter.
Not sure what you mean by 'trees have Arthur emigrating to Australia'. This could be the lead I have been looking for but what is 'trees'
regards
Allan
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Thanks Allan for correction.. :)
about kiddies, wires crossed!
Tinam
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It appears that John Martin's family owned a small farm at Haughton called The Dale his wife Ann Mould was a grand-daughter of the tenant. I am researching all families that lived in Haughton and would like to know where John and Ann moved to. Contact me direct at (*) for more information.
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I can not reply to you directly because your email address has been with held. John Martin died in 1870 (registered in the march quarter) and some of their children were noted as orphans in the 1871 census. Please let me know if you need or have any further information.
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It appears that John Martin's family owned a small farm at Haughton called The Dale his wife Ann Mould was a grand-daughter of the tenant. I am researching all families that lived in Haughton and would like to know where John and Ann moved to. Contact me direct at (*) for more information.
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