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Title: Jardine in India
Post by: sharkey on Monday 13 February 12 10:25 GMT (UK)
William Duffin Jardine born c. 1805 died 1885 Calcutta.  Married twice (at least) First Jane Golding (1818-1854)  in 1835 in Madras second Maria D'Costa possible aka Josephine Maria Decotta.  Josephine Maria born c. 1838 and died Calcutta 1878.

Can't locate marriage to either Maria or Josephine.
Also marriage of daughter Winifred JARDINE born 1872 to (francis) Charles Vincent GRAVES,
Any help appreciated/
Title: Re: Jardine in India
Post by: charlotteCH on Monday 13 February 12 10:36 GMT (UK)
sharkey, what was Jardine doing in India?  Commerce, trade, East India company employee?
Where was he born and when did he go to India?

The reason I ask is, might his marriages be on the overseas records... they have a special name and are lodged separately from ordinary uk marriages.
That's a bit/very muddled but maybe you get my point.

charlotte
Title: Re: Jardine in India
Post by: sharkey on Tuesday 14 February 12 10:42 GMT (UK)
Thanks for your reply.  I think he was in the army.  His death records state Military Pensioner.  I have not yet checked the Chelsea Pensioner website.

Sharon
Title: Re: Jardine in India
Post by: charlotteCH on Tuesday 14 February 12 11:18 GMT (UK)
If he was in the British Army, I think I am correct in saying the records of BDMs would be in Chaplains Returns.
I don't know what date those start.

I don't know how you access those.

charlotte
Title: Re: Jardine in India
Post by: sharkey on Wednesday 15 February 12 10:53 GMT (UK)
Thanks Charlotte.  I might try the FIBIS people and see if they can help.
kind regards
Sharon
Title: Re: Jardine in India
Post by: charlotteCH on Wednesday 15 February 12 10:56 GMT (UK)
FIBIS... I should have thought of that :-[

Good hunting.

charlotte
Title: Re: Jardine in India
Post by: gortonboy on Wednesday 15 February 12 11:24 GMT (UK)
there is a William Jardine b c1808  Edinburgh.,,,98th foot,,,,,served in India for 20 years,,,,
Title: Re: Jardine in India
Post by: miriamkinga on Wednesday 15 February 12 12:38 GMT (UK)
Hi Sharon

In the Armed Forces Marriages  there is a reference to a marriage of William Duffin Jardine in 1835 - there is no Jane Golding listed but there is a Jane Holden?

Best wishes

Maria
Title: Re: Jardine in India
Post by: sharkey on Thursday 16 February 12 09:49 GMT (UK)
Hi

If that is the 17 Feb at Trickinopoly Madras, its the correct marriage.  I have Jane as "Holdin" and "Golding" but Holden is a distinct possibility.  On two of  her children's births, she is just plain Jane.  On the birth of William Edward  in 1839 in Madras she is Jane Golding.  I think Jane died in 1854.

But the fact that its in the Armed Forces marriages is good news.    I don't suppose these is a further reference to William Duffin jardine and either Josephine Decotta or Maria D'Costa about 1855 ish?

regards,
Sharon
Title: Re: Jardine in India
Post by: sharkey on Thursday 16 February 12 09:52 GMT (UK)
Hi Gortonboy
Thank you somuch for that  information. the dates are about right and the Scottish origin ties in with what his grandaughter told me.     After what length of service would he expect to get a pension? 
regards
Sharon
Title: Re: Jardine in India
Post by: gortonboy on Thursday 16 February 12 19:34 GMT (UK)
Hi,,,not sure of the qualifying period,,but this William would have recieved one,,,,this William Jardine was number 2683,,he joined up in 1828,,,served in India for 20 years,,,finished his service in 1848 in India. So it is possible that this William remained in India,the officer signing him off , states he was in Umballa at time of discharge.
Title: Re: Jardine in India
Post by: sharkey on Friday 17 February 12 06:44 GMT (UK)
"My" William Duffin Jardine had the children of his first marriage in Trikinopoly Madras and the second marriage all seems to have been in Calcutta.    I guess he could have gone anywhere after Umballa.
I really don't have much more to go on and I am lucky to have the second name of Duffin to tie in both the marriages. However, the Duffin is not mentioned in any army records I have seen nor is it on Scotlands People so I have come to a bit of a dead end.
Title: Re: Jardine in India
Post by: treborsax on Friday 23 August 13 18:07 BST (UK)
Hi Sharkey

I think I may be able to help.

I have collected around 200 trees containing 16000 names associated with the name Jardine.

A family in Canongate, Edinburgh may contain your William Duffin Jardine.  The parents were Robert Jardine (b. 1772 Canongate) and Ann Amory Stewart (b. 2 Feb 1772, Tynemouth). They were married 31 Oct 1797 in Canongate.

They had nine children; the sixth being James Duffin Jardine, b. 1805 and the seventh William, b. 8 Apr 1807 in Canongate.

I have no proof that William Duffin is the above William but it seems likely as the other facts in previous posts appear to support this.

I hope it gives you a start.

Title: Re: Jardine in India
Post by: sharkey on Sunday 25 August 13 12:09 BST (UK)
Dear Treborsax
Thank you so much for the assistance.  I think you may well be on the right track.

regards
Title: Re: Jardine in India
Post by: MoiraN on Sunday 29 May 22 06:18 BST (UK)
Hi I am related to William Duffin Jardine. He was a career soldier and was in about three regiments. He married my great great grandmother Jane Jardine who was part Indian in 1835 in Trichonopoly.
Then his daughter Margaret who had married twice but both had died shortly after marriage so she was Margaret Penny when she married my great grandfather David Imrie in 1865 in Calcutta.  My grandfather William Matthew Imrie was born in India, my father Bruce Berriff Imrie was born in England but grew up for 21 years in India. Before he and his parents, brother and sisters moved to the UK.

Moira Noesgaard ( née Imrie )