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Title: BMD info California
Post by: KerriC on Monday 13 February 12 03:42 GMT (UK)
Hi All,
A general enquiry for someone who is trying to make some headway here.
I have found a distant relative dying in California  (There are others) and I went on the county website and I have the impression that only direct family can obtain such certificates.Is this so or does some historical time line come in e.g family historians ?
 I have seen a site called Archives .com has any one had experience with this site.
Would appreciate any advice on how get further with my Californian connections, with thanks Kerri
Title: Re: BMD info California
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 13 February 12 08:54 GMT (UK)
When and where did the death take place?
Title: Re: BMD info California
Post by: KerriC on Monday 13 February 12 11:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Aghadowey,
Nicholas Kirkwood  died 7 Jan 1919 of Contra Costa county California.He is buried with his niece , Mary Buchanan Gay nee Kirkwood and her family.He never married. I have read his obituary. I hoped if I could get death certificate it might show his parents  names.
Nicholas's sisters Isabella Ferguson, Agnes Lewis,also lived in California and Margaret Hastie? Their brother ,William my connection, lived and died in Australia.
Thanks for your interest,Kerri
Title: Re: BMD info California
Post by: Lisa in California on Monday 13 February 12 14:21 GMT (UK)
This doesn't help with your search, but if you haven't seen this yet, it is a short paragraph about a Nicholas Kirkwood's farm (dated 1863).  Perhaps it is your Nicholas?
 http://www.rootschat.com/links/0k7o/   
Title: Re: BMD info California
Post by: shellyesq on Monday 13 February 12 14:24 GMT (UK)
It looks like you should be able to get an informational copy, as explained here:  http://www.cdph.ca.gov/certlic/birthdeathmar/Pages/AthorizedCopyvsInformationalCopy.aspx
Title: Re: BMD info California
Post by: Lisa in California on Monday 13 February 12 14:31 GMT (UK)
I see that you already have a lot of facts about Nicholas, but in the event you have not seen his headstone:
 http://www.rootschat.com/links/0k7p/   
Title: Re: BMD info California
Post by: Lisa in California on Monday 13 February 12 14:34 GMT (UK)
Kirkwoods:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0k7q/

Gays:
  http://www.rootschat.com/links/0k7r/

Click on the name to see the headstone.
Click on the headstone to enlarge the photograph.

Regarding getting "further with my Californian connections" - if you haven't yet done so, you can try internet searches using the person's full name,  place of residence, county of residence, birth year, year of death, occupation, etc.  You may have to add additional words to the search if the surname was common.  Remember to also try searches with surname and then first name and surname and first initial.  (The same is true for newspaper searches.  An N Kirkwood was mentioned a few times on the newspaper site mentioned previously.)
Title: Re: BMD info California
Post by: O1dgobbo on Monday 13 February 12 20:48 GMT (UK)
Hi

The 1910 census shows Nicholas Kirkwood, 75, a farmer, living with his sister-in-law, Mary Gay, 60, in Contra Costa, Township 13, District 0175. He was born in Scotland and entered the USA in 1854.  His parents were both Scottish so you need to search scotlandspeople for a Kirkwood family with children named Nicholas, Isabella, Agnes, Margaret and William, born about 1835.

Alternatively you can search for William's Australian death certificate, which I think will give the names of his parents.

Good luck

Gobbo
Title: Re: BMD info California
Post by: KerriC on Tuesday 14 February 12 03:52 GMT (UK)
Thankyou  All for your help.
 Shelly thanks for certificate info.I will apply for that with fingers crossed  :)
Gobbo, Unfortunately when William died the informant on the certificate  didn't know William's details.Hence the search for his siblings. I have been on Scotlands people and haven't been successful in finding A  Nicholas Kirkwood birth. YET
Lisa,I was wrong about being buried with his niece  Mary B Gay.Mary is the sister of  William A Kirkwood .(the other Headstone)They are the daughter and son of my William.Have recently learnt of another daughter  Jemima who also spent her life in the U.S.Many thanks again,Kerri
Title: Re: BMD info California
Post by: andycand on Tuesday 14 February 12 08:35 GMT (UK)
Hi Kerri

Using information on your Lanarkshire topic Nicholas has a sister Isabella who married a David Ferguson in 1862. To find their parents download the marriage certificate from Scotlandspeople as that should have both parents including mothers maiden name.

Familysearch IGI has transcribed Scottish Births and Marriage indexes 1855 to 1875 direct from the Statutory Registers and this shows that the marriage was 9th July 1862 in Anderston, Glasgow but the names are D FERGUSON and Isbel KIRKWOOD. If you search SP using these exact spellings you will find the marriage.

Andy
Title: Re: BMD info California
Post by: KerriC on Wednesday 15 February 12 10:55 GMT (UK)
Hi Andy,
Thankyou sooo much for that advice.I had some credits on scotlands people and got the marriage cert so now have a father as William Kirkwood  ;D
Kerri
Title: Re: BMD info California
Post by: andycand on Wednesday 15 February 12 11:11 GMT (UK)
Hi Kerri

You should also have the mothers maiden name, what was it?

Andy
Title: Re: BMD info California
Post by: KerriC on Thursday 16 February 12 03:56 GMT (UK)
Hi Andy,
No first name only kirkwood and no maiden name. :(
While I was there had another look for birth Nicholas 1820_1840 no luck.tried Nicol ,Nichol, Nicholas.
So  hope his death certificate will give a clue.I guess that will also depend on the informant at his death too.
Kerri