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Title: Griffiths Valuation problems
Post by: NNR on Sunday 12 February 12 00:20 GMT (UK)
Hi,

  The Griffiths Valuation website tells me that my ancestor was living at the piece of land marked as '13' in the area of Lisquillibeen in Kilbarron, N. Tipperary during the time of the valuation. However, apart from there being no house on this land, the measurements (7 acres according to the report) bears no resemblance to the vast tract of line marked as '13' on the associated map. In fact, none of the Lisquillibeen references seem to bear a resemblance between the number of acres listed and what the map shows, size wise.

  Does anyone have an explanation for this...?

  Frustrated,
Title: Re: Griffiths Valuation problems
Post by: shanew147 on Sunday 12 February 12 11:42 GMT (UK)
Site 13 doesn't look all that large to me - at 7 acres it's size related to the adjacent 2 acre site at number 17 looks to be about right..

Was our ancestor Michael Donohoe ?


Shane
Title: Re: Griffiths Valuation problems
Post by: jud72 on Sunday 12 February 12 12:17 GMT (UK)
I had the same problem with the civil parish of Kilmanagh in Co. Kilkenny - the numbers did not match up with the plots that were shown on the corresponding maps.
However, when I viewed the Valuation Books from later years at the Valuation Office in Dublin, I found that the numbers had been changed by about 1862 so that they matched the plots on the map properly.
Jud
Title: Re: Griffiths Valuation problems
Post by: NNR on Sunday 12 February 12 22:17 GMT (UK)
Shane,

  It is Michael Donohoe, yes.

  Look at, for example, plots 7 and 8, however. 8 is meant to be 41 acres, and 7 about half is size. Yet plot 7 (A, B and C) takes up about 40% of the entire townland!

  Assuming he numbers - but not the boundaries - have changed, it should be possible to deal with this by elimination, I suppose.

  Unless there's a handy reference guide around that doesn't involve me having to travel to Dublin...?
Title: Re: Griffiths Valuation problems
Post by: mgtken on Thursday 23 August 12 23:54 BST (UK)
I had the same problem too. I think that the ordinance survey maps are of the correct place but the boundries are for an earlier or later date to that of the Griffiths valuation which is a pity. I don't know if the correct version is available.
Title: Re: Griffiths Valuation problems
Post by: shanew147 on Friday 24 August 12 08:06 BST (UK)
The maps on the AskAboutIreland website date from later than the valuation, so the plot layouts are sometimes a little different.

There are more contemporary valuation maps available on computers in the National Library, or National Archives and also on the subscription website at Irish Origins. These are arranged in separate OSI sheets and are in black and white rather than colour, and a little more difficult to decipher.


Shane