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Title: surrey -wandsworth - Edward Pharo
Post by: kim ter-horst on Saturday 14 May 05 11:53 BST (UK)
HI All

any information on Edward Pharo  born around 1843 in Wandsworth Surrey.  Parents were Aaron and Susanna (nee Jurd).  They came to Sydney in 1885 on the Bombay.  Any history of the family before 1885 - especially his parents births and siblings - would be gratefully received.

kim
Title: Re: surrey -wandsworth - Edward Pharo
Post by: 'Tricia on Saturday 14 May 05 12:06 BST (UK)
This is the only Aaron Pharo showing on 1861. May be the correct person with a second marriage. Keep it just in case.

Church Street


 Aaron Pharo 1819  Farnham, Surrey, England Head Sexton Wandsworth  Surrey   

 Ann Pharo 1821  Chertsey, Surrey, England Wife  Wandsworth  Surrey   
 Ann Pharo 1853  Ewell, Surrey, England Daughter  Wandsworth  Surrey   
 Charles Pharo 1803  Farnham, Surrey, England Brother  Wandsworth  Surrey   
 Charles Pharo 1855  Ewell, Surrey, England Son  Wandsworth  Surrey   
 Elizabeth Pharo 1857  Ewell, Surrey, England Daughter  Wandsworth  Surrey   
 Jane Pharo 1859  Wandsworth, Surrey, England Daughter  Wandsworth  Surrey   
 Joseph Pharo 1844  Chertsey, Surrey, England Son  Wandsworth  Surrey   
 Moses William Pharo 1851  Ewell, Surrey, England Son  Wandsworth  Surrey 

 
RG9/373  Wandsworth Folio 86 Page 4
Household Schedule 14

No sign of Edward yet

Tricia
Title: Re: surrey -wandsworth - Edward Pharo
Post by: kim ter-horst on Saturday 14 May 05 12:11 BST (UK)
you beauty! that's his grand parents and uncles/aunts etc - could you check for another Aaron - that would be his father - born about 1843.   my original post was wrong - Edward was born in 1869 - its his fatehr Aaron that was 1843 - should have double checked my facts. 

But, Hey, you still found his grand parents despite my error - thanks so much Tricia

kim
Title: Re: surrey -wandsworth - Edward Pharo
Post by: 'Tricia on Saturday 14 May 05 12:14 BST (UK)
Ok - now we are motoring It always helps to get correct years ;) ;)

1871

16 Point Pleasant

Aaron Pharo 1845  Chertsey, Surrey,  Head Domestic Gardener Wandsworth All Saints  London   
Susanah Pharo 1846  Wandsworth, Surrey,  Wife  Wandsworth All Saints  London
 Edward Pharo 1869  Wandsworth, Surrey,Son  Wandsworth All Saints  London   
 George Pharo 1866  Wandsworth, Surrey,  Son  Wandsworth All Saints  London   
 Thomas Jurd  1801  Hammersmith, Middlesex, England Father Retired baker  Wandsworth All Saints  London   

 
RG10/709 Wansworth Folio 55 Page 17
Household Schedule 98


Tricia
Title: Re: surrey -wandsworth - Edward Pharo
Post by: kim ter-horst on Saturday 14 May 05 12:25 BST (UK)
tricia you're a star

Thomas Jurd is Susannah's father.  And he's born in middlesex - that's were I will look for Susanah's birth.

The dates of Edward and George agree with the ages listed on the passenger list for "Bombay" which arrived in 1885 Sydney.  We have the right family for sure.  Excellent - three generations in one nigth - thanks so much

Kim
Title: Re: surrey -wandsworth - Edward Pharo
Post by: 'Tricia on Saturday 14 May 05 12:26 BST (UK)
Here is Susannah in 1861 You lucky girl!

1 Point Pleasant

Thomas Jurd 1804  Deptford, Kent, England Head Baker  Wandsworth  Surrey  
Harriet  1807  Bath, Somerset, England Wife Ironer Wandsworth  Surrey  
George  1845  Wandsworth, Surrey, England Son Labourer in Garden  Wandsworth  Surrey  
Susannah  1846  Wandsworth, Surrey, England Daughter Worker at Paper Mill Wandsworth  Surrey  

 
 RG9/372 Wandsworth Folio 75 Page 10
Household Schedule 

Tricia
Title: Re: surrey -wandsworth - Edward Pharo
Post by: 'Tricia on Saturday 14 May 05 12:32 BST (UK)
Sorry, can't catch Aaron at home with parents in 1861. Try a 1851 search, maybe?

Cemetry Road

William Smith 1812  Kent, England Head Brick and Tile Maker Tooting Graveney   
 Sophia Smith 1803  Tatsfield, Surrey, England Wife  Tooting Graveney  Surrey   
 George Smith 1842  Oxney, Surrey, England Son  Tooting Graveney  Surrey   
Aaron Pharo 1843  Chertsey, Surrey, England Servant Carter  Tooting Graveney  Surrey   

RG9/376 Wandsworth Folio 67 Page 1
Household Schedule 6

Don't suppose you know father's name at all?

Tricia
Title: Re: surrey -wandsworth - Edward Pharo
Post by: kim ter-horst on Saturday 14 May 05 12:35 BST (UK)
wow - I am going out and buying a lottery ticket - with luck like this I can't lose.

The amazing part is that I got this tip from a newly located elderly relative tonight - I've gone from "wow, "pharo" what a great name" to three generations in the one night.

Isn't it great that the long droughts of no new discoveries are interspersed with nights like this.

thanks soooooooo much

Kim
Title: Re: surrey -wandsworth - Edward Pharo
Post by: 'Tricia on Saturday 14 May 05 12:41 BST (UK)
1881

 1 Point Pleasant Wandsworth
 
 Aaron Pharo abt 1843  Chertsey, Surrey, England Head Gardener
Susanna Pharo abt 1846  Wandsworth, Surrey, England Wife
Alice Susan Pharo abt 1880  Wandsworth, Surrey, England Daughter 
 Annie Pharo abt 1873  Wandsworth, Surrey, England Daughter
 Edward William Pharo abt 1870  Wandsworth, Surrey, England Son 
 George Pharo abt 1866  Wandsworth, Surrey, England Son Page Boy 
 Jane Pharo abt 1876  Wandsworth, Surrey, England Daughter   
Thomas Pharo abt 1878  Wandsworth, Surrey, England Son 

RG11/0657 Wandsworth Folio 73 Page 34

Wonder where he was a Page Boy?


Tricia
Title: Re: surrey -wandsworth - Edward Pharo
Post by: 'Tricia on Saturday 14 May 05 12:50 BST (UK)
Can't find Susannah's father in 1881. This could be why

 
JURD, Thomas
Death Quarter ending March 1878 Wandsworth
1d
448
Title: Re: surrey -wandsworth - Edward Pharo
Post by: 'Tricia on Saturday 14 May 05 12:55 BST (UK)
Susannah's Brother in 1871. Named his daughter after mum, Harriet

12a Love Lane
 
George J Jurd  1845  Wandsworth, Surrey,Head Gardener Wandsworth All Saints  London   
Louisa Jurd  1845  Westminster, Middlesex, England Wife  Wandsworth All Saints  London 
Harriet Jurd  1869  Wandsworth, Surrey, England Daughter  Wandsworth All Saints  London   

 
 RG10/709 Wansworth Folio 37 Page 11
Household Schedule 78


Bought that Lottery Ticket yet? Reckon myself , Sarah and Trystan(who set up this site) are due for a share of any winnings ;) ;) ;) ;)

Tricia
Title: Re: surrey -wandsworth - Edward Pharo
Post by: 'Tricia on Saturday 14 May 05 13:01 BST (UK)
If you want me to try and find any of those other Pharo's from 1861 or follow George Jurd let me know Off for a coffee now :P

Tricia
Title: Re: surrey -wandsworth - Edward Pharo
Post by: allibaker on Tuesday 18 April 06 10:42 BST (UK)
living in ewell kent in 1851-
aaron pharo 38yrs ag lab born farnham surrey
ann wife 38yrs born chertsey surrey
joseph 7yrs son born chertsey surrey
mary 3yrs daughter born ewell surrey
henry 1yr son born ewell surrey
charles pharo brother 50yrs widower ag lab born farnham surrey
SOURCE INFO-H0107-1592
FOLIO-278
PAGE-41
regards
alli
Title: Re: surrey -wandsworth - Edward Pharo
Post by: allibaker on Tuesday 18 April 06 10:53 BST (UK)
living in wandsworth,surrey in 1851-
thomas jurd 46yrs labourer born deptford kent
harriett 45yrs wife
mary 20yrs daughter unmarried
william 9yrs son
george 7yrs son
susannah 4yrs
SOURCE INFO-H0107-1578
FOLIO-72
PAGE-3
regards
alli

Title: Re: surrey -wandsworth - Edward Pharo
Post by: allibaker on Tuesday 18 April 06 10:56 BST (UK)
living at point pleasant,wandsworth in 1841-
thomas jurd 35yrs born out of county
harriett 35yrs born out of ocunty
mary 12yrs
harriett 8yrs
john 10yrs
SOURCE INFO-H0107-1069
FOLIO-2/38
PAGE-10
regards
alli
Title: Re: surrey -wandsworth - Edward Pharo
Post by: 'Tricia on Tuesday 18 April 06 11:08 BST (UK)
It's no good, Alli - we've spent all that Lottery money ;D ;D ;D ;D

Tricia
Title: Re: surrey -wandsworth - Edward Pharo
Post by: allibaker on Tuesday 18 April 06 11:10 BST (UK)
 ;D try as i might i cannot find aaron junior in 1851 not aaron senior in 1841.theres an aaron pharo aged 15yrs living in farnham with mother maria but that is the wrong age.
 :-\
alli
Title: Re: surrey -wandsworth - Edward Pharo
Post by: GenelleG on Monday 08 December 08 11:37 GMT (UK)
I am very new to this...my name is Genellle G I am a Pharo descendant. Very close. Mother's maiden name is Pharo. I have been to Guernsey and have the birth cert of Annie Beatrice (this is Beatrice is not what was on the cert however) Brown.
My mother is on the phone now....we are talking about your research. Probably could help. My mother is HILTON PHARO's (his father was Edward and his Grandfather was Aaron) daughter.
Genelle
Title: Re: surrey -wandsworth - Edward Pharo
Post by: 'Tricia on Monday 08 December 08 12:13 GMT (UK)
Good morning Kim and Genelle

I see you are online at the moment Kim - it's a long time since this thread was active. I don't know how much further you have got with this family but I have had another go and found this in 1851



1851

Lyne Road Chertsey Surrey

    
Elijah Smithers Head Widower 65 Carpenter born Chertsey Surrey*
Sarah Smithers dau 22 born Chersey Surrey
Aron Pharo Grandson 5 born Chersey Surrey
   
HO107/1593 Folio 245 Page 13

Now, since those early days on Rootschat I now have access to the original parish records for Chersey so next time I go to the records centre I will check this family out for you and try and confirm his parents as he doesn't appear on any census with them. I 've had a quick read through the thread and Smithers appears to be a twist in the equation if this is your Aaron??? I may have misread this as I am off work at the moment having suffered a blow to my head and dizziness is my main problem at the moment ;D ;D ;D - more than normal, anyway :D


If you have already found this information give me a shout and it will save a journey. If all goes well I should be able to go there this week

* Amended to show Elijah as widower and Sarah as dau*



Tricia
Title: Re: surrey -wandsworth - Edward Pharo
Post by: 'Tricia on Monday 08 December 08 12:17 GMT (UK)
PHARO  Aaron / Ann SMITHERS

Marriage registered qrt ending June 1842
Chersey
Vol  4
Page 41

This is the couple from 1861 - does it make sense they have Aaron as a son

Tricia
Title: Re: surrey -wandsworth - Edward Pharo
Post by: 'Tricia on Monday 08 December 08 12:28 GMT (UK)
Still can't see Aaron Pharo and Ann on the 1851 but still looking. As Aaron junior is with grandparents his parents could be anywhere mistranscribed or not!

I'll plod on



Tricia
Title: Re: surrey -wandsworth - Edward Pharo
Post by: kim ter-horst on Monday 08 December 08 12:42 GMT (UK)
alli already found them back in 06

source info h0107-1592
folio 278
page 41

aaron 38, ann 38, 3 kids and charles pharo (aaron's brother) living in ewell kent in 1851

night night

kim
Title: Re: surrey -wandsworth - Edward Pharo
Post by: 'Tricia on Monday 08 December 08 12:53 GMT (UK)
 ;D Yes - just realised that  - Ewell is in Surrey by the way not Kent.  I have seen that mistake on the census records before.

Let me know if you want me to check out the Chertsey records for any Pharo's


1841

    
Elijah Smithers 59 Carpenter
Ann Smithers 21
Sarah Smithers 16
Elijah Smithers 12

All recorded as born Surrey
No other information given on 1841

HO107/ 1074 Folio 25 Page 6

Tricia


Title: Re: surrey -wandsworth - Edward Pharo
Post by: kim ter-horst on Monday 08 December 08 13:09 GMT (UK)
hi again

I want to know what diet Sarah smithers was on because in the 10 years from 1841 to 1851 she only aged 6 years!  definitely the right gene pool to belong to - and the correct famiy for sure.

this time I really mean it - I'm goign to bed!

thanks for the sleuthing

kim
Title: Re: surrey -wandsworth - Edward Pharo
Post by: 'Tricia on Monday 08 December 08 13:54 GMT (UK)
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Well, on the 1851 it could be 24


Don't lose sleep over it ;D  ;)


Tricia