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Research in Other Countries => New Zealand => New Zealand Completed Requests => Topic started by: darib on Thursday 09 February 12 12:35 GMT (UK)
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I believe that my Great grandparents travelled to NZ sometime after they were married in England 1881, but obviously didn't stay too long as their first child was born in England in 1883.
Their names were : Joseph Taylor HIND born 1852 and Esther HIND nee Jenkinson born about 1861.
I was hoping someone with access to NZ records may be able to assist.
Thank you.
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Hi, do you have any evidence they were in NZ, what has lead to your belief?
Craig.
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Hi,
So they were on their Honeymoon then? Could they have just done a round trip with the ship?
I know when I transcribed shipping records, there were some passengers that did just that.
Cheers
KHP
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Hi darib
... welcome. :)
If your great-grandparents were intending immigrants, then you should be able to find a record for them at the FamilySearch website.
http://www.familysearch.org
See the section "New Zealand Passenger Lists - 1855-1973".
[I've had a brief look and couldn't see them listed, but do try searching variants of the surname HIND as sometimes names have been mistranscribed.]
In the main, NZ holds records (generally in the form of passenger lists) for persons emigrating to the Colony from the UK. Lists for persons travelling from other destinations and for those paying their own fares, are minimal - to nonexistent, especially in the time frame you mention.
The journey from the UK of course was a long and perilous one in those times, not really something one would do for "pleasure", and so it would seem that if your people came here, then they more than likely did so under one of the many immigration schemes.
~ Lu
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Hello again darib
Did your Joseph Taylor HIND die in Australia (1929) ?
Somebody has a "Jenkinson" tree (at Ancestry) which seems to pertain to this family ? I haven't looked too closely at it apart from checking a record at Karrakatta Cemetery, Western Australia which shows a Joseph Taylor HIND aged 80 (bc 1849) buried there.
Do you think that the information you have about Joseph and Esther coming to New Zealand, might perhaps have been mistaken for them going to (neighbouring) Australia instead ?? ;)
~ Lu
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To answer your questions . 1. I am only going by something my grandmother wrote that 'her parents went to NZ to visit friends and maybe to stay, but came home"
Like you I have been unable to find any trace of the journey. Maybe my grandmother got it wrong.
2. Yes my G/grandfather Joseph Taylor Hind did die in Aust. He immigrated a few years after the death of his wife Esther which occurred in 1906 in England. I have all those records, but was just curious about the supposed trip to NZ when they were first married. Re the Jenkinson tree, that would the one established by a cousin (*) from Canada
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my grandmother wrote that 'her parents went to NZ to visit friends and maybe to stay, but came home"
Hello...
There is actually a New Zealand in England. To be precise, in Wiltshire.
Maybe they went to Wiltshire, visited their friends, then went home.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand,_Wiltshire
.... or not :-)
Regards
Beg
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To answer your questions . 1. I am only going by something my grandmother wrote that 'her parents went to NZ to visit friends and maybe to stay, but came home"
Like you I have been unable to find any trace of the journey. Maybe my grandmother got it wrong.
Hi again darib
Was your Grandmother's note about her parents going to NZ, in the form of a letter ... and is there a perhaps a date on which this was written ?
~ Lu
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No, it wasn't a letter, just amongst things she wrote down about her early life in England and later in Australia in the early 1900's. She could have got it wrong, but everything else she mentioned has all proved to be correct, because although she was old when she wrote it, her mind was still as "sharp as a tack".
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As to the "honeymoon theory", I think that was highly unlikely, they were not wealthy people at all.
However, there is a record of Joseph Taylor Hind's nephew, Henry(Harry) Kenyon Hind (b 1866), his wife Elizabeth and 2 daughter, Constance & Doris, travelling to NZ on board the "Gothic" from England in 1901, but they too were back in England at the time of the 1911 Census.
Maybe this was the one time my grandmother got confused when writing up her story, and mistakenly confused that journey, but I find it highly unlikely, as their trip took place some 20 years after her father's journey that she referred to.
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Mmm... sorry, just not able to help you in finding a record of their journey to New Zealand.
:)
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Just another thought ... have you looked at passenger lists into Australia around the early 1880's ?
They could well have arrived there ... and then "travelled on to NZ to visit their friends". ???
[British subjects were "free" to travel between Australia and NZ (and vice versa), without the need to complete immigration formalities. Records of such travel between the two countries (i.e. passenger lists), are scant though. ]
~ Lu
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I will certainly have a look at the Australian shipping lists, it is a possibility I guess. I never thought of that.
Joseph Taylor's HIND's father - Joseph HIND (1815) did himself come to Australia in 1852, leaving his wife and 5 children, including the young Joseph T HIND behind in England. I have a record of him arriving in 1852. He was never heard of again, and is believed to have gone to the goldfields in Victoria, where he died, although no burial records can be found. His widow in England later re-married, in 1865.