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Title: Ridge Hill or Ridgehill nr South Mimms
Post by: mr top banana on Wednesday 08 February 12 15:12 GMT (UK)
i'm trying to trace buildings on this site (wd7 9bg) any help is much appreciated. thanks
Title: Re: Ridge Hill or Ridgehill nr South Mimms
Post by: [Ray] on Wednesday 08 February 12 16:43 GMT (UK)
Hi, and WELCOME to Rootschat!

Do You mean the school?

Any particular target period?

Any other particular building?

If it is an historical query how did you arrive at the post code?
Googleview not enough?

What have you already got (saves duplication of effort, etc..)

Ray


Rootschatters,  There is a duplicate post in London & Middlesex, here
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=post;topic=580560.0;num_replies=0
Title: Re: Ridge Hill or Ridgehill nr South Mimms
Post by: mr top banana on Wednesday 08 February 12 17:06 GMT (UK)
Hi Ray,

i don't mean the school. i am looking for information on the buildings at the top of the bend of the road. i have seen maps from around 1930 and up to 1960 showing more buildings than are currently there and i was hoping to find out what type of buildings they were. they would have been part of the tyttenhanger estate ( or tittenhanger) and could possibly have been a farm? after 1960 (the last dated map i can trace) they disappear, possible due to road changes (m25) etc etc.

google earth doesn't go back far enough

i have been searching in vain to try to trace parish rates but with no success.

any help is much appreciated.

ps

the duplicate thread is because this area  definatly came under middx before it came to be in herts

hope that helps

Title: Re: Ridge Hill or Ridgehill nr South Mimms
Post by: [Ray] on Wednesday 08 February 12 17:37 GMT (UK)
Hi

Herts Genealogy, has it that part(s) of the area came within Middx in 1861.
You are talking about 1930-1960


Ridgehill to Tyttenhanger is about 2-3km and "between the 2" were brickworks, Salisbury Hall, ancient moats to list the first 3 springing to mind.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0k5n/  may be  a good place to start.

Why not clip and paste here a part of a map showing the detail of the exact part you are thinking of?

Cheers
Ray


Title: Re: Ridge Hill or Ridgehill nr South Mimms
Post by: mr top banana on Wednesday 08 February 12 18:06 GMT (UK)
Hi Ray,

 that link doesn't work for me ??

the map i'm using is from  www.old-maps.co.uk/maps html

it wont let me clip and paste  :(

type in the post code wd7 9bg  and choose ridgehill stables.

then choose the map from the choices on the right. the one i'm refering to was the 1960 post - ww II

if you click the enhanced zoom ( zoom in 3 clicks) and look at the very centre of the map that is the area i'm talking about.

there are two buildings?? and a pond ??  about  20mm above the letters LP. those are what i am enquiring about as they no longer exist.

sorry for the longwindedness of this but i'm not particularly PC literate !!

again i appreciate all help

thanks

Jerry
Title: Re: Ridge Hill or Ridgehill nr South Mimms
Post by: mr top banana on Wednesday 08 February 12 18:09 GMT (UK)
forgot to add that these features dont appear on the next map available from 1970
Title: Re: Ridge Hill or Ridgehill nr South Mimms
Post by: catchall on Wednesday 08 February 12 22:19 GMT (UK)
(link didn't work 4 me either)
Try      http://www.hertfordshire-genealogy.co.uk  instead?


Could it have been a "menage"? Looks like a modern one now?

Ridge Hill Stud & Riding Centre
Ridge Ridge Hill Radlett WD79BG (01707) 643377

Why not ring them and see if anyone there knows?






Title: Re: Ridge Hill or Ridgehill nr South Mimms
Post by: [Ray] on Thursday 09 February 12 06:34 GMT (UK)
Whoops, Sorry, something went awry with the pasting of the link.
I've corrected the original now, you may use either.

Ray




Title: Re: Ridge Hill or Ridgehill nr South Mimms
Post by: mr top banana on Thursday 09 February 12 13:42 GMT (UK)
the current property was sold to them around 1974 from the tyttenhanger estate or the caledon estate. they have no recollection of the buildings i'm looking for which are quite visible on the 1960's map.

i seem to be going round in circles using the links provided.

i've searched under ridge hill / ridgehill / ridgehill farm / stables etc

any more thoughts or ideas much appreciated

thanks

Jerry

Title: Re: Ridge Hill or Ridgehill nr South Mimms
Post by: [Ray] on Thursday 09 February 12 15:46 GMT (UK)
HI

Menage, lime pit, gravel pit, pond, burialmound, herb garden?
The 1960s map does look like stables to me.
From earlier maps it looks connected to Shenley Lodge

National Archives has some on the area eg .....................

Title deeds of the High Cannons Estate, Shenley and Ridge, 1534-1912
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=046-dehcc&cid=-1#-1

Deposited 12 August 1948
Creators     Durant family of Shenley, Hertfordshire

Administrative history:
The nucleus of the estate, the manor of Holmes alias Cannons, belonged to the former monastic foundation of St Bartholomews, Smithfield and the collection begins with a copy of the Crown grant to John Alwey and his syndics in 1543 (DE/HCC/27433) An heiress carried High Cannons to her husband, Edward Wingate, who bought out her sisters. In 1653 he moved to Lockleys and sold out to a Citizen and Cutler of London (DE/HCC/27442) from which date the estate changed hands frequently until its purchase in 1813 by Enoch Durant (DE/HCC/27461) It was bought from his heirs and successors the Burdett - Coutts family in 1888 from whose representatives the County Council purchased it

Contents:
The earlier title deeds of High Cannons a mansion and estate of 800 acres at Shenley & Ridge in the Hertfordshire Green Belt acquired by the County council.
Small purchases bring in the title of Shenley Hill (DE/HCC/27570) and Salisbury Hall, Shenley (DE/HCC/27489) as well as The Grove, Watford (DE/HCC/27523) and Tyttenhanger, Ridge. It is interesting to see the close association of this area with the early private bankers

It includes .........................

Admission  DE/HCC/27605  16th October 1730
Contents:
Of Thomas Wotton, Esq. to Pieces of land waste of manor, part of which now converted into a fishpond, on road from Shenley Hill to Well End, etc. Manor of Shenley Hall



Regards
Ray
Title: Re: Ridge Hill or Ridgehill nr South Mimms
Post by: [Ray] on Friday 10 February 12 16:24 GMT (UK)

Post removed, as unnecessary.

R
Title: Re: Ridge Hill or Ridgehill nr South Mimms
Post by: mr top banana on Monday 13 February 12 09:23 GMT (UK)
Ray

i have posted this to update the thread.

thanks again for your help. i am awaiting the return of some emails which might help throw some light on this.

possibly found something about a wind mill at ridgehill which could be interesting and certainly makes sense given the height of the location. food for thought !!

your help is much appreciated - thank you