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Hi
Does anyone have any information re Eve Myers who married Lewis Isaacs. Eve was born around 1806 and died in Australia. Her 2 sons came out with her but do not know if she had any other children. Lewis did not appear to have come out to Australia, do not know if he died in London or stayed with other children. Would like to know who Eve's parents were and where she was born.
Thanks Diane
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Hi
Trove has this...
The Argus Melbourne
Monday 3rd June 1889
DEATH
ISAACS... At her daughter's residence 150 Bourke Street East Eve relict of the late Louie ISAACS of London, mother of Moss ISAACS, A.H. ISAACS, Mrs J MOODY, Mrs R SOLOMON, Mrs MENDOSA and Mrs Morris COHEN of this city and Mrs M BLOCH of Adelaide.
Cheers
Karenlee
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1851 Census England Middlesex St Boltoph Aldgate
HO107/1524/96/8
6 White Street
ISAACS
Lewis Head Marr 46 Clothier Tower Hamlets
Eve Wife Marr 45 St Boltoph Aldgate
Hannah Dau Unmarr 22 St Boltoph Aldgate
Maria Dau Unmarr 17 St Boltoph Aldgate
Sarah Dau Unmarr 6 St Boltoph Aldgate
Adelaide Dau Unmarr 4 St Boltoph Aldgate
Elizabeth Dau Unmarr 3 St Boltoph Aldgate
+ one domestic servant
Cheers
Karenlee
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1841 Census England Middlesex St Boltoph Aldersgate
HO107/725/13/9
6 White Street
ISAACS
Lewis 35 Salesman Born in this County
Eve 30 Born in this County
Hannah 13 Born in this County
Maria 9 Born in this County
Rebecca 5 Born in this County
Hyam 6 Born in this County
Moss Infant Born in this County
+ 2 domestic servants
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From Trove...
The Argus Melbourne
12th March 1859
MARRIAGES
On the 9th instance at the Melbourne Synagogue Lonsdale Street East, by the Rev. Moses RINTEL, Jewish Minister. Mr Abraham CITRON Pawnbroker of Ballarat to Maria second daughter of the late Lewis ISAACS Esq, Merchant of London
The Argus Melbourne
26th May 1859
MARRIAGE
On the 22nd instant, at the Ballarat Synagogue by the Rev. D ISAACS, Mr Phillip SALOMON of Black Creek to Rebecca third daughter of the late Louis ISAACS Esq merchant of London
The Star Ballarat
11th May 1863
MARRIAGES
MOODY - ISAACS on the 7th of May 1863 at the residence of the bride's mother, Barkly Street Ballarat, by the Rev M RINTEL Senior Rabbi of Melbourne, Mr Joseph MOODY second eldest son of Judah MOODY Esq of London to Miss Adelaide fourth daughter of the late Louis ISAACS Esq merchant of London
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A death in Victoria
MENDOZA Elizabeth
1928 age 75 years at Fitzroy
Father: Louis Isaacs Mothers: Eve Myers
Reg #14708
Raylen
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Not sure if you already have this information, apologies if you do...
Marriages
Great Synagogue
London
15th Aug 1827
ISAACS Lewis ( Hebrew name = Aryeh LEIB Father's Hebrew name = Shlomeh ZALMAN )
MYERS Eve ( Hebrew name = Chava bin MIER )
Groom
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From the BMD…….
Adelaide ISAACS married Joseph MOODY in 1863.
Ref = 2103
Rebecca ISAACS married Phillip Salomon VON VOLLENHOVEN in 1859
Ref = 2275
Rachel ISAACS born London married Morris COHEN in 1868.
Ref = 2250
There may be others that I haven’t spotted as yet.
Dee :)
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I found the son Hyam's marriage and death......
Abraham Hyam ISAACS born London married Dinah PHILLIPS in 1881
Ref = 4198
Abraham Hyam ISAACS aged 65 died in 1900 at Melb E.
Father = Louis ISAACS & Eve MYERS
Spouse Gvn Names/Mother:
Ref = 9781
Dee :)
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Eve's death from the BMD......
Eve ISAACS aged 87 died in 1889 at East Melbourne
Father = Michl MYERS
Mother not given.
Ref = 8515
Dee :)
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Marriage and death of another child of Lewis and Eve......
Maria ISAACS married Abraham CITRON in 1859.
Ref = 1168
Maria CITRON aged 53 died in 1887 at S FITZ
Father = Lewis ISAACS & Mother = Eve MYERS
Ref = 1732
Dee :)
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Two more deaths......
Rebecca SOLOMON aged 80 died in 1916 at Carlton.
Father = Louis SAACS & Mother = Eve UNKNOWN
Ref = 13404
Adelaide MOODY aged 54 died in 1901 at St Kilda.
Father = Louis ISAACS & Mother = Eve LEVI
Ref = 11744
Dee :)
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There’s the death of a Lewis ISAACS in the Sep Qtr 1851 in the district of E London.
Ref =2/146
Unfortunately, no age given. :-\
Dee :)
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It was daughter Sarah that married a BLOCH (in Victoria) …..
Henry BLOCH married Sarah ISAACS in 1860.
Ref = 4302
Dee :)
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Good work Dee :D
It was daughter Sarah that married a BLOCH (in Victoria) …..
Henry BLOCH married Sarah ISAACS in 1860.Ref = 4302Dee :)
Sarah died 1920 and is buried with Hermann BLOCH at West Terrace Cemetery Adelaide.
http://aca.sa.gov.au
ISAACS Moss
died 29/7/1921 aged 80 years at St Kilda
Father: Lewis Isaacs Mother: Eve Myers
Reg#12057
He is buried at Brighton Cemetery
Raylen
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I've found Hermann's death.......
Hermann BLOCH aged 46 of Kent Town died on 2nd May 1884 in Adelaide.
Ref = Ade S 137/366
and Sarah's.....note spelling......
Sarah BLOCK aged 77 of Parkside and widow of Hermann BLOCK died on 22nd July 1920 at Parkside.
Ref = Nor H 439/209
Dee :)
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Thanks everyone this is great news. My great grandparents were Abraham Hyam Isaacs and Dinah Phillips. I knew that Moss was in business with a Cohen but thought it was a relative from his wife's side now I know it was his brother in law.
Karenlee thanks for the hebrew for Eve and Lewis but can you provide the English for Lewis's father
And does anyone have Eve's mothers name/surname
Also are any of you related to my family
Diane
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No Diane.....we're just Rootschatters who like to help out.
Unfortunately Eve's mother wasn't named on her Death Certificate, which makes finding her mother's name in Australian records rather difficult seeing as she was most likely born in the UK.
Dee :)
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Hi Diane
Sorry, reading the transcription from the Great Synagogue London I could only find the Hebrew.
Cheers
Karenlee
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Thanks again
If you feel like digging any further for me, Dinah Phillips parents were Louis Phillips and Esther Beck. I believe Esther's mother was Sarah Jacobs and I think her father was Henry Beck. Can anyone confirm this for me and possibly go further.
Again thanks for your work It has been greatly appreciated
Diane
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There are lots of grandchildren for you to find too, Diane......just yell out if you want some help.
Dee :)
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Thanks again
If you feel like digging any further for me, Dinah Phillips parents were Louis Phillips and Esther Beck. I believe Esther's mother was Sarah Jacobs and I think her father was Henry Beck. Can anyone confirm this for me and possibly go further.
Again thanks for your work It has been greatly appreciated
Diane
The marriage of Dinah PHILLIPS says she was born in Hobart. There is also an earlier marriage for her to a Phillip Phillips in 1872 in Victoria.
Ref = 3461
Phillip Phillips born London died in 1877 aged 33.
Father = Moses PHILLIPS and Mother = Rosy WOOLFF
Ref = 5553
They had a child Phillip Louis PHILLIPS born 1877 in Melbourne.
Ref = 23583
He died aged 17 months in 1879. :'(
Ref = 5418
So it seems Dinah was a widow when she married Abraham.
Dee :)
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Thanks Dee, you are right. I am so stoked I have been stuck on this for so long and now I have some sort of idea if the family. I ahve been able to go back on other sides of the family all in England to late 1600/early 1700's but the jewish side had me stumped.
I am also trying ti find Richard Robert Stewart who married Sophia Utting Sutch in Melbourne. Richard was married before and lost his wife and 2 children but don't know their names or what happened. Don't even know if it happened in England, on the way out or in Australia. I have a transcript of the marriage certificate for Richard and Sophia and have Richards father as Joseph and mother as Hannah but cannot read her surname. Believe he was born Norwich 1814. He was widowed 1845 and married Sophia 1854.
Diane
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Hi Dianne,
Glad this information was helpful to you. :D
Do you know what happened to Hannah Isaacs born c1829?
Is she the Rachael Isaacs who married Morris Cohen?
I see in the family notices on http://trove.nla.gov.au that she is named as
Raie Cohen.
I have tried to find a death for her but nothing found so far :-\
Raylen
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yes am aware of Dinah's first marriage and loss of her child who hung himself trying to get out of his cot. Very sad indeed. Actually read the inquest info on it.
Diane
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Oh poor baby and poor Mum! :'( :'(
Dinah's death.....
Dinah ISAACS aged 39 died in 1895 in Carlton.
Father: given as Henry Lewis and mother as Esther BECK
Ref = 8596
This raises a question about her father's name. Do you have Dinah and Abraham's marriage certificate, Diane? If not, it may pay you to obtain the digital copy, as it should have lots of information on it. Ask if you are unsure how where/how to do so.
if you already have it, can you post any information from it on here to give us some pointers?
As for your latest question about Richard Robert Stewart, I think you'd be better to start a new thread for him, probably on the Australian Board. In fact, we probably should get a moderator to move this thread to the Australian Board too, where you may get more help.
Dee :)
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I see Louis PHILLIPS and Esther BECK and three children including Dinah listed on the Tasmanian Family Links site. No parents named for Esther and no marriage there either. So maybe we need to look elsewhere. :-\
It sounds like you have some documents already.
Dee :)
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Dinah's father went by Louis Henry a bit like Abraham Hyam called himself Hyam. Louis was actually sent out as a convict to Tasmania, have traced his exploits. However would like anything on Esther's side
Diane
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Maybe someone with access to Tasmanian BMDs can find more. :-\
Have you searched trove newspapers for any mention of them?
Dee :)
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I note post from Raylen:
Do you know what happened to Hannah Isaacs born c1829?
Is she the Rachael Isaacs who married Morris Cohen?
I see in the family notices on http://trove.nla.gov.au that she is named as
Raie Cohen.
I have tried to find a death for her but nothing found so far
My name is Colin Morris Nicoll. I am curious in searching out some more information on my family. I have just started and came across this entry. I don't know if anyone can shed any light on the information I have below:
Rachel Isaacs and Morris Cohen married in Ballarat, Victoria on the 7th of June 1868 at the residence of the bride, Barkley Street, Ballarat East. They had 9 children. The youngest child Annie Cohen, was born 22nd December 1888 27 Moor Street, South Fitzroy, Victoria. Annie Cohen married David Nicoll in Blenheim, NZ in 1925. They had one son Morris Nicoll, born in Napier, NZ 1928. Morris Nicoll is my father. Annie Cohen died approx 1936. I am trying to seek more information on Annie Cohen, her siblings, anything at all. I am not sure when she left Australia to NZ.
Thank you for your time in reading this!
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Hello Colin.
Welcome to RootsChat. :)
You mention that Rachel ISAACS and Morris COHEN had nine children, with Annie being the youngest.
Do you have the details of all the births? Their deaths or marriages? If not, we may be able to find some of them.
It seems that there was another child born after Annie.
Leslie COHEN born 1889 in Melbourne East to Morris COHEN & Rachel ISAACS
Ref = 23718
Dee :)
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Thanks Dee, would be very grateful for any information you find. Here are details I have on hand:-
Sarah Cohen 1869-
Louis Cohen deceased
Eve Cohen deceased
Herbert Cohen 1876-
Clarence Cohen 1878-
Beatrice Cohen 1880-
Ethel Cohen 1882-
Claude Cohen 1885-
Annie Cohen 1888-
Unfortunately, do not have dates of deaths or marriages.
Colin Nicoll
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Thanks Dee, would be very grateful for any information you find. Here are details I have on hand:-
Sarah Cohen 1869-
Louis Cohen deceased Louis Morris born 1873 in Collingwood. Ref = 23131 Died aged 2 months. Ref = 10505
Eve Cohen deceased
Herbert Cohen 1876- born Melbourne Ref = 3983
Clarence Cohen 1878- born Melbourne. Ref = 17055
Beatrice Cohen 1880- born Fitzroy ref = 2514
Ethel Cohen 1882- born Melbourne ref = 3989
Claude Cohen 1885- born Fitzroy Ref = 24439
Annie Cohen 1888- born Fitzroy S Ref = 2980
Unfortunately, do not have dates of deaths or marriages.
Colin Nicoll
I've added some details in blue.
I have a bit more to come, but as yet nothing on Eve.
Dee :)
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Here's two more deaths that I found....
Beatrice ABRAHAMS aged 86 died in 1959 at CAULFIELD
Father = Morris COHEN & Mother = Rachael UNKNOWN
Ref = 7857
Sarah SENIOR aged 66 died 1935 at Elwood
Father = Morris COHEN & Mother = Rachel ISAACS
Death Place: ELWOOD
Ref = 2689
I'll see if I can spot any more.
Dee :)
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There is a birth for a Sarah COHEN with parents Morris and Rachael in 1869 in Sydney.
Eve COHEN, parents Morris and Rachel, was born in 1870 in Sydney.
Ref = 1179/1870
Eve died the same year
Ref = 1063/1870
It appears that Clarence D COHEN, parents Morris and Rachel, died in Newcastle, NSW in 1925
Ref = 12628/1925
Dee :)
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Here’s some death notices for Herbert COHEN….
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/4571626
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/4620637
And that has led to the death registration of Ethel….
Ethel THIRSK aged 67 died in 1949 at St Kilda.
Parents = Morris COHEN & Rachel ALEXANDER
Ref = 13528
Death notices for Ethel.....
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/22798222
Dee :)
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I wonder if the following refer to Clarence COHEN?
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/70016397
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/70016432
Dee :)
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In 1914 Beatrice and Ellis ABRAHAMS were living at 147 Pigdon St, North Carlton, Victoria. Ellis was a clerk.
They’re still in North Carlton in 1919, but at 704 Rathdown St.
1924 and 1931 sees them at 5 Beach Ave, Elsternwick South.
They’ve moved to 7 Beach St by 1936, and were there in 1937.
1942 sees only Beatrice listed and she stays there till 1954,
Her husband, Ellis ABRAHAMS died in 1941 in South Melbourne. His age was given as 72.
Dee :)