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Hi,
Wondering if someone with a camera could take a couple of picture for me in Egremont cemetery.
The first is for Section F, Con, Grave Number 71, it has a headstone for Mary Shepherd.
The second one is in Section H, Con, Grave Number 366, I have no idea if there is a headstone, the name is Charles Shepherd.
Than you.
Ayemas. (Australia)
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A little more info for you - There are others buried in the first grave - Section F Con Grave 71. Purchased by Mary Shepherd - Innkeeper.
James Shepherd buried 7/7/1925 - 40 years - Deceased address 49 Montreal Street. Cleator Moor.
Catherine Shepherd buried 24/12/1938 - 74 years. - Deceased address 14 South Street. Egremont.
Mary also purchased -- Section F Con Grave 63
Thomas Shepherd buried 21/8/1895 - Aged 40 - Married - Cleator Moor.
Elizabeth Shepherd buried 8/6/1918 - Aged 62 years - Widow of 17 Montreal Street. Cleator Moor.
Sandra
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Sandra,
Thank you very very much for taking the time out to do that for me, and the extra information was a great Bonus. It is lovely that people like you can help people like me on the other side of the world to put their family tree together.Can I ask was all the Information on the one Headstone. I hope it wasn't too cold or wet for you.
Once again Thank you
Ayemas ( Australia)
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Hi Ayemas,
Your very welcome. Have the cemetery records for Egremont which have a few details on them.
In the area at the moment and have a vague idea where abouts the grave is - fingers crossed we can get the photograph or you. (Hoping it is still standing)
Sandra
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Hi Ayemas,
Found a headstone for Shepherd - this looks like Section F Con 63 rather than F Con 71.
If it is F Con 63 then F Con 71 does not exist anymore - there are numerous blank spaces.
Elizabeth, the wife of Thomas Shepherd is also buried in F Con 63 - buried 8 th June 1918 from 17 Montreal Street. Cleator Moor.
Sandra
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Checked the son Miles Shepherd and his wife Sarah Harrison but they are not buried at Egremont.
The probate for Miles in 1915 stated they were living at 3 Office Cottages. Bigrigg (probate granted to Charles Shepherd and Benjamin Martindale (joiner)) and for Sarah who died 1937, she was living at 37 Crossfield Road. Cleator Moor (probate granted to Charles Shepherd) - so perhaps they could be buried at St John's. Cleator Moor ???
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thank you very very much for going and taking the photo for me it was extremely kind of you, and I have thanks to you a bit more to add to my Family tree.
Regards Ayemas
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Hello Sandra,
I have a query regarding buriels at Egremont.
I have that Margaret Cameron died 28 Sept 1817 aged 62, is buried at St Mary"s Egremont.
Several children are also buried there but I have not been able to find any information for the death of her husband Edward. I don't think that he is named on her headstone.
They had 5 children with the last Hannah baptised 16 Jan 1799.
I suspect that Edward may have died about 1800 ( the family of 5 being smaller than could be expected for the time.)
If you can supply any clues to his death it would be very helpfull.
(from another Aussie seeking answers)
Wyanga
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Hi Wyanga,
This particular Egremont Cemetery opened in August 1864 so unfortunately neither Edward or Margaret would be buried there.
The Parish Church of Egremont - St Mary and St Michael is the original site of two chapels/churches of St Mary and St Michael - demolished then rebuilt 1884. Stands in own church grounds but over the years the area around the Church has been laid with tarmac so there are fewer headstones to see.
Sandra
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I travelled up there last year having prepared a spreadsheet containing all the relevant information re my many family members there.
When I got there it was pouring down with rain and I had left my sheets behind.
Will be there again on Sunday and the spreadsheet is already packed, along with an umbrella and my camera lol
Whilst I was there I found a grave containing members of the Bone family whose names I didn't recognise, so I rang my dad [his grandma being a Bone] to ask if he knew of them.
To which he replied "no cos there are a lot of Bones in Egremont" I replied without thinking "not as many as there in here" lol
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Hi Half Pint,
Its been a year or so since we last visited Egremont Cemetery and I honestly thought "vandals" had been at work. Not so - Egremont Town Council are the "culprits"
They are pushing over any headstone deemed to be unsafe and leaving them on the ground, which means some cannot be read again because the inscriptions are face down - Health and Safety gone mad again ???
Shout if you need any help. ;)
Sandra
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Hello Sandra,
I am looking for the burial of a John Hodgson b 1888 and died Nov 18, 1924 in Scalegill Place, Egremont. He wouldn't have any other immediate family (that I know of) buried with him as his wife Hannah remarried after his passing. There could be siblings of course, as he had a somewhat notable Uncle named Martin Hodgson(overseer of the Florence Mine) that the town shut down it's mining operations for his funeral the day of Oct 31, 1928 in Egremont. His wife was named Rachel.Is it possible that you could find his burial spot also?
I appreciate your time and effort,
Kind regards,
Jan
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Hi Jan,
John was buried 22 November 1924 - Grave Ref L Con 68 - Deceased Address - 3 Scalegill Place
Purchaser Hannah Hodgson.
There is also a Ann Hodgson buried in the same grave 4 th March 1936 - Deceased Address was 7 Scalegill Road. Moor Row.
Sandra
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Hi,
Rachel and Martin Hodgson are buried A Con 57. Martin (died Whitehaven Hospital) buried 31st October 1928 and Rachel on the 6th December 1931. Address was 63 North Road. Egremont.
Graves purchased by Martin Hodgson in 1915.
Sandra
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A Con 57
Agnes Hodgson was buried in this grave location 20th March 1915 (aged 14 years) Deceased Address was 63 North Road. Egremont.
Sandra
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There is also a Elizabeth Hodgson who was buried 22 February 1914. Elizabeth was a widow and the mother of Martin Hodgson. Deceased address was 14 Brisco Road. Egremont. Grave purchased by Elizabth Hodgson of 63 North Road. Egremont. Grave Ref A Con 35
No other person listed for the same grave.
Sandra
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Oh thank you so much for this Sandra. The Ann that is buried with John is his mother. I'm so thrilled that we finally have found her. Her husband is buried in South Africa and we thought the same for her as there are not any records that we can access at this time. The young girl buried is Agnes, Martin and Rachel's daughter. I am very grateful for your efforts. Is the Cemetery just called Egremont Cemetery and is it on North Road also?
Bless you,
Jmama
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Thank you again Sandra for the news of Elizabeth. This poor woman was 9 months pregnant with Martin (youngest of 9 children) when she was widowed after her husband James was killed in the mine he worked in. Is there any record of his burial inn this cemetery?
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In 1990 there was a by pass built at Egremont. The new road looks as if it is also called North Road. 63 North Road is a row of terraced houses inside that new road. The Cemetery is on the right hand side of the new by pass as you exit Egremont towards Whitehaven on the A595.
I have some Cemetery photographs which I will take a look through to see if any are of the headstones of the Hodgson Family. Will get back to you on that.
Sandra
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There is a 1875 burial record for James Hodgson - 9 th December 1975 - Grave reference:- H Con 147. No-one else appears to be buried with him.
There are lots more Hodgson buried in the cemetery.
Sandra
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Well it looks like you have my entire family tree in there. Are you interested in more names if you have time? I would love to know more about who is in there as my family all lived so close to one another. Let me know if you would like a list :)
I don't want to burden you if you have other obligations.
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Will be delighted to help. Let me have the names.
Sandra
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There is a UK Return Passenger List from Austraalia to London England 4 th October 1914 on the Demosthenes. There is Ann Hodgson aged 58 years, widow. John Hodgson born 1888, Moses Hodgson born 1895 and Miss Doris Hodgson born 1900.
Sandra
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Doris Hodgson appears on a New York Passenger List 28 April 1925 on the SS Baltic. Mother Mrs Hodgson, 65 Arrowthwaite Villas, Whitehaven. Going to Mr W Colquitt, 412 Ponn Avenue, Pittsburgh PA.
Sandra
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Doris married William Colquitt, they appear on the US 1930 Census Lynn, Essex, Massachusetts.
William Colquitt 36 Born Eng. First married at 31 years. Machinist. Elec Appl
Doris Colquitt 28 Born Eng. Parents born Eng. Immigrated 1925. First married at 23 years.
Anna E Colquitt 3 years and 1 month.
Sandra
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Sandra you are a dear! The Australasia record I have already which made me wonder why Moses Hodgson (we have 5 in the family)( husband of Ann whom you have found) did not return from Africa with his wife and sons. This led me to believe he is buried in SA as he was a gold and copper miner there. I will make a small list of names for those we cannot find due to the name similarity in the death indexes. There are too many to order documents for so cemetery is my only ally at the moment to close the gap. Will be back with the tougher ones to see if you can find them there. I cannot thank you enough and you are too kind!
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Pittsburgh, Allegheny, Pennsylvania 1940
William Colquett 45 Labourer. Plummer.
Doris Colquett 39 Housework. Private House.
Anna E Colquett 13 Born PA.
William Colquett 9 Born PA.
Doris Colquitt - 14 May 1901 Died 18 Jun 1988
Last Residence 15243 Pittsburgh, Allegheny, Pennsylvania.
William Colquitt - 15 Sep 1893 Died Mar 1972
Last Residence 15216 Pittsburgh, Allegheny, Pennsylvania
Sandra
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Son William - William Colquitt - 13 Dec 1930 Died Nov 1973
SSN issued Pennsylvania (Before 1951)
Sandra
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Obituary for Ann Elizabeth Colquitt - Age 86, of Pittsburgh, PA. Loving daughter of the late William and Doris Colquitt; sister/sister-in-law to the late William Colquitt and Josephine Colquitt Beilstein etc etc
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0vf4/
Sandra
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Jonah Hodgson aged 53 years. Buried 9 th March 1904 - Deceased Address Keswick. Grave ref A Uncon 71. Grave purchased by Mary Jane Hodgson of Mill House, Thornthwaite in 1904.
Mary Jane Hodgson was buried in the same grave - 20 th September 1927. Deceased address 43 East Road. Egremont. There should be a headstone.
Sandra
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Thank you for tracking Doris and family. I did have that one completed except for the marriage record.
I'm looking for these if you might come across them in Egremont area.
Jonah Hodgson died Mar 5, 1904 -address 35 East Road. Killed in a mine. His second wife was Mary Jane died 1927 address 37 North Rd.
-his first wife was either Elizabeth Benson or Ann Grimshaw but I cannot find a death record for either. Married in 1872 to the latter. MaryJane appears on the 1891 census.
George Hodgson b.1885 and married wife Margaret Mein and the last record of him I have is signing John Hodgson's death cert in 1924 (your first discovery in this list) George lived at 65 Arrowthwaite Villas. Sister Doris lived there with him and his family. I cannot find a death record for him either.
Another brother James b 1884 and last record I have for him is his marriage to Hannah Elizabeth Johnstone in 1916. He also lived in Bootle which may be off track now.
James Hodgson died Jun 1920 - wife Elizabeth address 20 North rd.
That is all I will burden you with today. You are my godsent angel for helping me with this!
Forever grateful,
Jan
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Hannah Hodgson/Wilson (wife of William Wilson) Buried 24 th August 1898 aged 42 years. Grave reference :- A Con 34 - Died at Wyndham Terrace.
William Wilson died at 1 Wyndham Terrace. Buried 3 rd April 1935 in the same grave reference.
Grave was purchased by William Wilson.
Sandra
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Grave Ref:- L Con 45
George Hodgson aged 61 years buried 10 th January 1946 . Grave purchased by George Hodgson (Gas Collector of Revenue) 3 Scalegill, Moor Row. Deceased Address 7 Penzance Street Moor Row.
Margaret Hodgson aged 25 years buried 14 March 1919. Deceased Address - 3 Scalegill Moor Row.
Sarah Hodgson aged 73 years buried 3 rd February 1959. Deceased Address Meadow View House, Whitehaven.
Sandra
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Grave Ref :-A Uncon 59
Elizabeth Hodgson aged 67 years. Buried 19 th July 1937. Deceased Address 20 North Road.
James Hodgson aged 77 years. Buried 13 November 1950. Deceased Address 20 North Road.
Grave purchased James Hodgson in 1919
Sandra
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Grave Ref :- A Con 163
Pricilla Hodgson/Cavanagh aged 69 years. buried 16 th May 1927. Deceased Address 62 North Road. Egremont.
Grave purchased by William Cavanagh in 1919.
Sandra
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Grave Ref A Con 379
Margaret Hodgson/Prince buried 21 September 1934 aged 70 years. Deceased Address 4 East Road. Egremont. Grave purchased by James Prince in 1934.
James Prince buried 24 th March 1953 aged 90 years. Deceased Address 35 East Road. Egremont.
Sandra
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What can I say to ALL this overwhelming information that I could have never found on my own especially living in Canada. My family tree book will be a wonderful legacy for all of my family's grandchildren. You have solved many an endless search on my part and I cannot express my gratitude enough for everything you have done. I'm in tears over this and you have made my day! One last question and I will leave you to rescue another frustrated soul. Are allof these relatives in the same cemetery so that I may list them accordingly in their profiles? I take it the Cemetery name is just called Egremont Cemetery. if you come across any pictures that would colour the pages I have then I would be forever I your debt.
Bless you,
Jan
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Yes, all in Egremont Cemetery. North Road. Egremont This aerial view shows part of the Cemetery.
http://billiongraves.com/pages/cemeteries/EgremontCemetery/169119#cemetery_id=169119&lim=0&num=25&action=browse
Martin and Rachel had a son called Martin born 26 March 1909 in Egremont died Salford July 1991 He was an English rugby league footballer of the 1920s and '30s. He was, without doubt, one of the game's greatest ever second row forwards and represented both Cumberland and Great Britain on many occasions, and also toured Australasia in 1932 and 1936 with the Great Britain tourists.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Hodgson
http://www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/history_and_heritage/rugby_league_hall_of_fame/martin_hodgson (with photograph)
Sandra
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Sandra, This is perfect! I knew about young Martin Hodgson and had his stats on his profile. It is nice to have an accomplished and memorable family member in my tree. It has been delightful working with you and I am thrilled to have found your look-up offer on Rootschat.
Thanks are not enough,
Jan
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Hi,
Headstone Martin and Rachel - http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,654542.msg5007770.html#msg5007770
Also 62 North Road Egremont - address of Pricilla Hodgson/Cavanagh and 63 North Road address of Martin and Rachel Hodgson.
Regards
Sandra
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Hello Sandra,
These pictures are so touching and very welcomed. You have made my day yet again.
I do have a question though. In yesteday's thread you posted the burial of Elizabeth Hodgson, mother of Martin but I wonder if there is a grave reference for her as we might have missed that.
I truly appreciate your contributions so much more than I can say!
Thank you for keeping my family in mind while you are working.
Best regards,
Jan
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Yes, reply 15 for Elizabeth Hodgson - the grave ref is on there - put it on a little later.
A Con 35
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
I've come across a probate for another James Hodgson of 63 North Road wife named Hilda. He died Dec 13, 1950, close to the death of another James Hodgson. It's ironic that so many of my family are called James Hodgson which are at that residence there were two cousins plus Martin Hodgson's son. All are born with 10 years of each other. Can you look and see if you have a James Hodgson with a wife Hilda as I don't have her in my tree yet but the address tells me she's family.
With so many James Hodgson marriage records during that time, I cannot identify which were my ones. The grave search has helped immensely to narrow that down.
Again I appreciate your time,
Jan
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James Hodgson died 13 December 1950 (probated 8 Feb 1951) was buried 16 December 1950. Grave Ref L Con 122 - purchased in 1943. Address 63 North Road. Egremont
He would appear to the son of Martin and Rachel born 1899 and aged 51 years.
Perhaps this James married March 1937 to Hilda Greenop at Cockermouth 10b 1098, it was the only match with a Hilda I came across. Unfortunately did not come across any burial for a Hilda Hodgson
The James in reply 33 buried 13 November 1950 A Con 59 was the son of James Hodgson and Elizabeth Sewell. Address 20 North Road. Egremont.
Sandra
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Sandra, Thanks again for keeping my dates straight. There are even more James Hodgsons in that time frame. This is what happens when Elizabeth has 9 children and each one has a son James. I need a huge spreadsheet to see them all. Priscilla Hodgson Cavanagh was Priscilla Jenkinson prior to a Cavanagh. She had a son James Hodgson Jenkinson b1878 and lived at 55 North Road. After he left home and his mother remarried he changed his surname back to Hodgson which makes it difficult to find him again. Would you have a burial record for that one?
I am starting to look at another son of Elizabeth named William 1870 and possibly died 1918 address 87 Main Street. He had a wife Hannah Parks. b.1876 and possible death 1959.
Another William Hodgson b.1898 in S Africa and died July 1995. Wife Olive Mary possible death 1963. One male child unknown info.
If your up for it I am looking for Priscilla's sister Agnes Hodgson Banks b1867 and poss death 1945 - address Ribton Side Whitehaven. Husband Joseph Banks - had a butcher shop.
If your swamped with other requests you don't need to jump to this :) I could do it later if possible.
Thank you again,
Jan
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Can't see James "Jenkinson" Hodgson buried at Egremont.
Brother George Jenkinson buried 14 th November 1956. Aged 64 years Deceased residence 8 Park View Castle Croft.
Ellen Laura Jenkinson buried 24 th August 1956. Deceased residence 8 Park View. Castle Croft.
Grave Ref IA 85
Noticed that Priscilla's probate record 14 May 1927- probate granted to William Cavanagh (Iron Ore miner) and John Cavanagh (engineman) (her sons with William Cavanagh)- no mention of John "Jenkinson" Hodgson. (Priscilla's husband had died 1925)
Priscilla lived at 55 North Road with James Jenkinson. James buried 29 th March 1898. Aged 42 years. Grave Ref :- K Con 182. Noone else buried in that location.
Sandra
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Elizabeth Hodgson Jenkinson did not marry, Buried 21 st August 1917 aged 30 years. Deceased address 62 North Road. Egremont. Grave purchased by William Cavanagh 1917. (Could be the flu epidemic around this time) Grave Ref A Con 112 - Noone else appears to be buried in that location.
Sandra
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William Hodgson buried 23 rd January 1918. Deceased address 86 Main Street. Egremont. Grave Ref A Con 110
Sarah Hannah Hodgson buried 4 th August 1959. Deceased address 18 Sunnyside. Castle Croft. Egremont.
Grave purchased by Hannah Hodgson of 86 Main Street. Egremont.
Sandra
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William Hodgson buried 28 July 1995. Deceased Address was Castle Mount. Egremont (a nursing home) Grave Ref:- IA 231
Olive Hodgson buried 5 th October 1963. Deceased Address 17 Park View, Castle Croft. Egremont.
Graves purchased by William Hodgson. 17 Park View. Castle Croft. Egremont.
Sandra
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Just noticed there was a plinth on the headstone for Martin and Rachel and it says also there other children Lillian, Hilda and Archibald who died in infancy.
Can see a burial for Hilda 6 November 1912 Grave Ref Con 49. Deceased address 63 North Road.
Twins Lillian Hodgson and Archibald Greaves Hodgson both aged 1 month buried 19 October 1903. Deceased Address - 2 Bank Lane.
Sandra
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Hi Sandra, yes there were rumours that Rachel had in fact 3 sets of twins. Now your latest message confirms it. Hilda is also part of a set of twins. Her sister Mabel survived.
Reply #45 referring to James Jenkinson Hodgson. He was born prior to Priscilla's marriage to Jenkinson. When she remarried to Cavanagh James went to live at 63 North Rd with his grandmother Elizabeth. He is so hard to pin down I lost track of him after 1901. He lived at 55 North Road in 1901 Having a cousin by the same name in 1874 makes looking for records difficult as ages are never exact. Perhaps he died.
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Hello Sandra,
Is there someone that looks up burials in Penrith St Andrews as I have my oldest John Hodgson 1782-1790 who died there. Last address was 11 Town Head, Penrith, Cumberland in 1851. His wife Priscilla died in 1859 but I do not know where she is buried. They have lived around St Andrews Church yard throughout their married life. They had 2 sons still living with them in 1851 Thomas b.1831 and John b.1829. Unfortunately I cannot find John 1790 after the 1851 census or the boys. I wondered if he died shortly after his wife and possibly buried with her. Her death date was Jul qtr of 1859 in Penrith. I hoping if some has the burial records then perhaps the address can pinpoint which John Hodgson is mine. Unfortunately there are a few.
Can you direct me?
Ever thankful for your input,
Jan
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Hi Jan,
It would appear that the Baptisms 1556-1968 Marriages 1556-1990 Banns 1754-1987 Burials 1556-1878 for St Andrews Penrith are at Carlisle office of the Cumbria Archive Service.
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/CUL/Penrith/
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thank you for the direction to Penrith. I will contact them for further information. Looks like we are done here so I bid you a good day and one last thank you for all the wonderful contributions you've made to my tree.
Complete now!
Jan
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Hi Sandra,
I have that Margaret Cameron died 25th Sept 1817 and is buried at St mary's Egrremont,
I am trying to find the death of her husband Edward.
Their last child Hannah was baptised 16 jan 1799 so I suspect that Edward has died about 1800.
Can you tell me where I would find Buriel records for Egremont for that period.
Wyanga
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Hi Wyanga,
Remember Coulderton (Stephen) checking for Edward Cameron's death record at the local records office in 2012 but he was not listed on any burial index for Egremont. Reply 12 - this was the previous thread:-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,574583.10.html
Sorry.
Sandra
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Thank you Sandra, I was wondering if it may have been worth checking Bishops transcripts or another source of records such as Carlisle.
It seems strange that the family was living at Egremont from at least 4th Jan 1784 when the first son Joseph was baptised and that Margaret was still there until her death in 1817, that there is no record for the death of Edward.
Wyanga