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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => London and Middlesex => England => London & Middlesex Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Cumbrian Nige on Friday 03 February 12 21:44 GMT (UK)
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Can SKS help, please?
I thought this would be an easy search but The Genealogist is not giving me any clues.
The family group should be:
James (b.abt 1831, Westminster), Emily (wife, b.abt 1949, Southwark. Maiden name was likely to have been Latimer), Ernest (son, b.abt 1880, Camberwell), Arthur (son, b.abt 1885, Hammersmith) and joseph (son, b.abt 1890, Hammersmith)
I believe that James died around 1907. I've no idea about Emily and/or the children)
I can find them on the 1881C (in part) and the 1891C (in part) but have no idea after that.
Can anyone help?
Thank you
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Hi
This looks possible.. they are indexed as HORFIELD ( they have James as James B HORFIELD ) but when you see the image it is indeed BUTTERFIELD
1901 Census England Essex Walthamstow
RG13/1625/76/37
98 Albert Road
BUTTERFIELD
James Head Marr 62 Compositor Print London
Emily Wife Marr 44 London
Ernest Son Unmarr 21 Compositor Print London Camberwell
Archibald Son Unmarr 17 London Shephers Bush
Joseph Son Unmarr 11 London Shepherds Bush
Cheers
Karenlee
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a search of the1911 census index shows James very much alive in 1911,,,,i suspect he may be the Jamesb Butterfield who died in 1913,,
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Hi
Given the family were involved in the printing trade... this might be one of the boys...
Marriage Register
Christ Church Notting Hill
Kensington and Chelsea
Archibald Benjamin BUTTERFIELD 26 Bachelor Printer of 68 St Ervans Road Father = James BUTTERFIELD Gentleman
Ada Florence Mary Ann REDDING 19 Spinster of 68 St Ervans Road Father = William Matthew REDDING Clerk
Both bride and groom signed
Witnesses were Robert Henry Francis REDDING and Maria REDDING
Karenlee
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Wow!
how on earth do you uncover that information so quickly. Many thanks indeed
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Wow!
how on earth do you uncover that information so quickly. Many thanks indeed
Decades of time wasted spent searching. ;D ;D ;D
1911 shows Ernest married to an Ada...
FreeBMD shows...
Marriages September Quarter 1905
West Ham Essex 4a 462
BUTTERFIELD Ernest James
TARRANT Ada
Karenlee
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going by info from the 1881 census it would seem james was married previous to his marriage to emily
he appears on the 1871 census with his first wife martha
on this census his occ is; baaptist minister
if you do not have this census entry and would like me to post it here i will
1871
RG10/643/25/46
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Hey wozzle
Is this the James Stenson BUTTERFIELD that I have been seeing in my searches?? His marriage to Harriet Hannah LARDENT shows he was a Compositor and his father was a Baptist Minister ?
Cheers
Karenlee
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yes it is the same one james junior is with him in 1871 aged 19
james senior is married to martha he then marries emily according to the 1881 census
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Wondered if he fitted somewhere given he worked in the printing trade. ;)
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i am going to post this and then use it to try and trace back
1871
RG10/643/25/46
james butterfield age 40. b. st.george,hanover sq. occ. baptist minister. head
martha age 46. b. lambeth. wife
james.s. age 19. b. st.george. occ.apprentice printer compositor. son
martha.a. age 15. b. chelsea. daughter
william age 14. b. newington,surrey. son
ruth age 12. b. tottenham court road. daughter
mathew age 10. b. anersley,surrey. son
alice age 8. b. rotherhithe. daughter
living at;2,yeomans terrace,rotherhithe,surrey
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1861
RG9/451/85/38
james butterfield age 30. b. london. occ. baptist minister of bethleham,rotherhithe. head
martha age 36. b. lambeth. wife
james.s. age 9. b. london. son
martha age 6. b. chelsea. daughter
william.s. age 4. b. old kent road. son
ruth.e. age 2. b. ditto. daughter
mathew.r. age 4mnths. b. penge,surrey. son
living at;royal oak ---?.battersea,surrey
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1851
HO107/1475/177/17
james butterfield age 21. b. westminster. occ. printer and compositor. head
martha age 23. b. lambeth. wife
living at; 1,thomas street,st.george,hanover sq. middx
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Seems he changed jobs a bit.
Baptism Register
St Mary Magdalene Holloway Road
Islington
Ruth Esther daughter of James and Martha BUTTERFIELD of 35 Holywell Lane Curtain Road. Born 22nd Feb 1859 Baptised 30th Nov 1879. Father's Occupation Printer
Karenlee
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marr index
name; james butterfield
y.o.r. 1850
qtr; oct/nov/dec
dist; st.george,hanover sq
vol;1
page; 54
on the same page; martha stenson
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martha stenson
Makes sense... ;)
Marriage Register
St George Bloomsbury
Camden
1st Aug 1887
George BROWN 24 Bachelor Glazier of 29 ?ewinetta Street Father = John BROWN Coachman
Ruth Esther BUTTERFIELD 25 Spinster of 5 Upper Marylebone Street Father = James BUTTERFIELD Printer
Both bride and groom signed
Witnesses were James BUTTERFIELD Willam J ROLFE and W ??
Karenlee
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1841. possibly him
HO107/733/11/35/19
william butterfield age 50. occ. shoemaker
ann butterfield age 42
charles butterfield age 12
james butterfield age 10
henry butterfield age 8
george butterfield age 7
joseph butterfield age 5
john wyatt age 26. occ. shoemaker
ann wyatt age 23
charles wyatt age 1
elizabeth hare age 60. occ. female servant
mary bromley age 60. occ. female servant
emma harding age 20. occ. female servant
living at;providence court,st.george,hanover square,middlesex
all of butterfield born in county
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only problem i cannot find the death of martha or the marriage to emily both must have occurred between 1871-1881
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Seems he changed jobs a bit.
Baptism Register
St Mary Magdalene Holloway Road
Islington
Ruth Esther daughter of James and Martha BUTTERFIELD of 35 Holywell Lane Curtain Road. Born 22nd Feb 1859 Baptised 30th Nov 1879. Father's Occupation Printer
Karenlee
going by this martha must have died between 1879-1881
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There is a death for John Stenson BUTTERFIELD 1880 and what I presume is his son Louis Lardent BUTTERFIELD 1880.
BUT not Martha....... ???
This might be her baptism though...
Baptism Records
Lambeth Surrey
17th Sept 1824
Martha STENSON
Father = John STENSON
Mother = Martha
Maternal Grandfather = Martin TRICKER
Karenlee
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nor a marriage of a james butterfield to emily?
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UK Wills and Administration Index
BUTTERFIELD Emily of 80 Selwyn Avenue Highams Park Essex. Widow. Died 26th Dec 1917. Administration London 8th April 1919 to Joseph BUTTERFIELD Accountant. Effects 62P 6s
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There is a tree online that shows her as being Emily RAPSEY but gives no marriage date and no death for Martha.
FreeBMD has
Marriages Sept Qtr 1904
Hastings Sussex
BUTTERFIELD James
RAPSEY Emily Florence
Hmmm.... not convinced myself, but anything is possible
Cheers
Karenlee
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There is a tree online that shows her as being Emily RAPSEY but gives no marriage date and no death for Martha.
FreeBMD has
Marriages Sept Qtr 1904
Hastings Sussex
BUTTERFIELD James
RAPSEY Emily Florence
Hmmm.... not convinced myself, but anything is possible
Cheers
Karenlee
i think that that james was born in 1877 and that emily was born in 1878
they are together in steyning,sussex in 1911 emily down as florence
so if i had to guess i would say that is not the ones we are looking for
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For Martha Stenson ( Butterfield ) try died 1st Quarter 1872 St Olave, Southwark ( Vol. 1d ) ( page 206 )
I've only just joined Roots after picking up on your link to James Butterfield.
hope this helps.