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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Limerick => Topic started by: Shaztoni on Friday 13 May 05 17:36 BST (UK)
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I am willing to look up information on families from Limerick, it will be a lot easier if you have a parish or town land along with the names as the records are all on microfiche in the local library.
Sharon
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Hello, Sharon
Is your offer to do a look up in the 1901 census for Limerick still available?
I am new to research in Ireland. I have had a little success with my husband's family but I have had a lot of help from kind people.
I would like to make some progress on my family.
I wondered if it were possible, or worthwhile, looking up my Great Grandfather, Patrick Joseph Morrissey/Morrisey.
He was apparently born 11 July 1888 possibly in Rathkeale, Limerick. He joined up in Tralee, Kerry on 11 October 1906 and went out to the East Indies in 1908. His trade had been listed as 'overseer'. What does this mean? Is it something to do with Workhouses? He lived in/travelled through the East Indies, Turkey, India, Mespot. and Burma. He died in Calcutta, India in 1940 still serving in the Army.
He married Eileen Mangan in 1915 in Rangoon. They had 8 Children. They came to England in 1948. I am interested in tracing Patrick Joseph Morrissey's parents, who according to his attestation papers were Thomas and Mary.
Patrick would have been 13 years old in 1901 so I presume may be living with his parents Thomas and Mary.
Do you think it would be worthwhile to check the 1901 census and is there any other advise you can give me?
Look forward to hearing from you.
Kind Regards
Rachel ???
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Sorry Rachel, I couldn't find him in Rathkeale, the only Thomas Morrissy in Rathkeale would have been too young to be his father, Thomas was 30 and was married to Ellen 28.
Next time I'm in the local family history centre I'll look for Patrick's birth to confirm his parents. (The BMD index for Ireland are available from family history centres)
Sharon
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Hi Sharon,
If you are still offering to do co.Limerick look-ups, please would you look for the following for me in the 1901 census:
BAILEY family: Kilbehenny parish: townlands of Coolboy, Carhue (Carrow) etc.
I have already seen the film which has the townlands of Behanagh, Brackbawn, Carrigeen, etc etc etc, but I think there is another film which covers the other townlands in Kilbehenny, which I never got to see.
I would be interested in any mention of Baileys in any context; it is possible they may turn up in one of several townlands in the parish, not just the two I mention I above. Sorry if this is too time consuming for you.
Thank you so much for your time, and if no luck with this, don't worry!
Regards
Margaret
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Hi, Sharon
Thank you so much for your kindness in looking my family up in the Rathkeale records.
I have not looked at this family for years so I thought I would get my folder out and see if there is anything I have missed.
In 1920 Patrick Joseph Morrissey gave his full address as
26 Bowman Street, Limerick.
I find this strange as I know he left Ireland in 1906 and it does appear from his military records that he returned.
On another document dated 1913 when he was in Rangoon to the Question
'Born in the Parish of' he writes St Michaels
'near the Town of' Limerick
'in the County of' Limerick.
It states on this document that he was Attested at Rathkeale on 11 October 1906 although other documents say he attested at Tralee.
I am sure I read somewhere that he was an overseer (whatever that means) but I can't put my hand on it at the moment.
I would be grateful for any advice you can give me.
I note that you are researching family from England, if you need any help please let me know. Although my area of 'expertise' is more in Staffordshire, Worcestershire and Birmingham. We do like to take holidays in Cornwall. So please let me know.
Kind Regards
Rachel
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I think an "overseer" would just mean a supervisor I don't think it would be associated with a particular trade or industry unless other wise stated.
I just checked the Limerick city trade directory, which is on-line at http://www.limerickcorp.ie/webapps/TradesReg/Search.aspx but there was no sign of either Patrick or his father. I can check the electoral roles in the library for Bowman Street for 1923 (this is the earliest electoral role for the city) to see if there were any Morrissey's there.
Unfortunately the Attestion records which although they hold a great deal of information don't usually help to determine the place of birth, as I know from my own ggrandfather who was attested in Ennis Co.Clare although he was born in Templemore Co. Tipperary and his family lived in Limerick at the time of his attestion.
St. Michael's might be a good clue as there is a Bowman's Street in St. Michaels Parish. I just checked the head's of households for St.Michaels parish there are 2 Morrissey's but would have to check the films to see if there anything to your ones, here's the index for the parish
http://www.from-ireland.net/censabstracts/lim/1901/glentworth.htm
Sharon
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Thanks, Sharon
I am grateful for the help.
Kind Regards
Rachel :D
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checked the electoral roles, looks like all the Morrissey's got out of Bowman's street by 1923, what a pity.
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Hello, Sharon
Thanks for looking. I had a feeling these lot were going to be a nice brick wall for me to work on. I guess that's the fun of it - it would be boring if it were easy. ::)
Regards
Rachel
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Hello Sharon,
If your kind offer is still open then I would greatly appreciate some help. My father is the youngest of 12 children who were all born between the early 1920s and 1938 in Adare, county Limerick. All bar two of the 12 are now living in England and they do not know too much about their own parents. It is my father's birthday in a few days and if I could have some information I know that he would greatly appreciate it. My paternal grandmother was from Dublin, but my grandfather's family were born in Limerick.
My grandfather would have been born at some point around 1900 - possibly just before. So he would be in the 1901 (and possibly 1911) census. The family lived at Stonehall, which my father told me was in the parish of Kildimo, but some research on the web shows it to be in Kilcornan (recent changes, or an error on my part?). His name was George Allen, and he certainly had a brother, Michael. But how old were they all? Were there other children? Where did they live, exactly? And, most importantly, what were the parents called? If I could find this out then I may well make the trip over (as long as I know it wouldn't be wasted!).
Any information that you could glean for me would be most helpful.
Many thanks
Mark Allen.
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Hi Mark,
Unfortunately your out of luck there, the entire reel that contains Stonehall is missing from 1901.
I'll check the 1911 tomorrow, it is on cd and the archivist (who wasn't there today) needs to access it for me.
Fingers crossed
Sharon
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Oh dear, that is very disappointing. But thanks again for trying. If you could find out whether it is just the reel that is missing, or whether there is no reel because the original has not survived I would be very grateful. 1911 may help, but to be honest I do not know whether the family were still in Stonehall at that date. But worth a try!
Thanks again
Mark.
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It was missing from the library collection I'm not sure whether there is another copy of it available somewhere, but they never had it.
The archivist wasn't there again this morning so it will be next week before I can get to check the 1911 for you.
Sharon
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Oh well, thanks for trying anyway. I have emailed the National Archives of Ireland to see whether they will tell me if it exists. I have to say that normally one would find a reference somewhere if it had been lost, so I hope that it is just the local copy that has gone astray. I would still appreciate it if you could quickly check 1911, though, once you get the chance.
Best wishes
Mark Allen.
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Hi,
I would greatly appreciate a lookup. I am researching McCormack/ick of Adare and Gleesons of Adare and Limerick City/Irishtown - Garvey's Range.
Thanks for any help.
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Sorry Mark, couldn't find them in stonewall in 1911.
pjk, I can get you the record later on today for the two Gleeson families on Garvey's range.
Sharon
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62/19/12
Garvey's Range.
Patrick Gleeson, Head, Catholic, Read and Write, 31, Married, Painter, Limerick City.
Catherine Gleeson, Wife, Catholic, Read and Write, 29, Married, Machinest, Limerick City.
John Joe Gleeson, Son, Catholic, Read, 5, Scholar, Limerick city.
Patrick Gleeson, Son, Catholic, cannot read, 3 1/2, Limerick city.
Mary McMahon, sister-in-law, catholic, read and write, 13, scholar, Limerick city.
Ellen McMahon, Mother-in-law, catholic, cannot read, 60, widow, limerick city.
62/19/14
Garvey's Range
Martin Gleeson, Head, Catholic Read only, 70, Married, Car owner, Co. Tipperary.
Bridget Gleeson, wife, Catholic Read and write, 65, Married, co. Limerick.
John Gleeson, son, Catholic read and write, 33, unmarried, Barber, Limerick city.
Martin Gleeson, Son, catholic, Read and write, 29, unmarried, Labourer, Limerick city.
Ellie Gleeson, daughter, catholic, Read and write, 24, unmarried, Dressmaker, Limerick city.
Joe Gleeson, son, catholic read and write, 24, unmarried, general labourer, Limerick city.
Ellen Howard, sister-in-law, catholic, read and write, 67, unmarried, co. limerick.
I hope this helps
Sharon
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Wow, wow, wow!
Thank you very much! It helps me incredibly.
When it says car owner, Tipperary - is that Martin Gleeson's occupation in Tipperary - like a chauffeur, or taxi service?
Were there any McCormack's in Adare that you saw? Is Adare a section of its own on the census? I noticed you were researching McCormack's- do any of your have British Military History? That's how I was able to link these families.
Thank you tremendously, I sincerely appreciate your time.
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His occupation was car owner and he was born in Tipperary. Yes it would have been like a taxi service, as you probably know at the time a "car" was a carriage as there were no auto mobiles in Limerick at that time.
Adare will take longer to check as it is a rather large area so I will have to set aside an hour or two to look but I will get to it (eventually)
My McCormack's are all from Dublin.
Sharon
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Hi Sharon
If your offer of look ups is still on please could you see if you could find KAVANAGH/CAVANAGH living at Glenameade Pallaskenry could come uder Kildimo.
Thank you Teresa
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Sorry about the delay, only made it back to the library today.
Glenameade is under Pallaskenry but unfortunately the reel that its on is missing. Like I said in an earlier post in this thread I'm not sure if they are just missing from the library or missing altogether. The archivist said that they never received a copy of the reels.
Sharon
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Just my luck thanks for looking anyway
Teresa
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Hi Sharon,
I'm trying to trace the movements of my grandfather's family.
My great grandfather, John Ryan was a station master and because of his job the family moved around a lot. I've been able to verify that they lived in Bruree, Co. Limerick and Emly, Co. Tipperary and now I've just discovered that they may also have been living in Kilmallock at the time of the 1901 Census.
I've been able to discover that the Railway Station in Kilmallock is situated in the townland of Gortboy so I think that's the first place you need to look in your search.
The Ryan family consisted of :
Father: John Ryan (station master)
Mother:Bridget Ryan
Sons: Michael, Thomas(my grandfather), Edmond, John, James
Daughters: Anne, Mary
I'd be very grateful if you could also supply me with their places of birth.
Thanks,
Orla
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Sharon: I would appreciate two lookups. The first is Richard Collins in 1901 in Abbeyfeale, county Limerick. The second is Bridget Collins in 1911 in Abbeyfeale. Thanks in advance for your help.
Tom
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It will be after the holidays when I can get to the last two requests. But I will get to them.
Sharon
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Happy new Year Sharon.
If your offer of free look ups for Limerick is still current, would you mind having a look for PATRICK MEADE in Limerick his age would be 58 approx, married also, name of wife unknown.
Address unfortunately unknown.
Many thanks in advance
Noody
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I won't be able to complete these requests for a few months, when I can take requests again I will unlock the thread.
Sorry for the inconvenience
Sharon