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Title: The 92nds in India
Post by: angela woolhouse on Monday 30 January 12 21:59 GMT (UK)
HELP, I have spent some time tracing my family tree but I am not good at knowing where to look for records.
I had a relative [William McIntosh] born 1845 in Scotland he joined the 92nd[?]. He married in Devon just before sailing to India in 1867,a daughter was born in 1872 in Mootan/Mesout [?]. The family returned to Devon in 1876 as William was ill,he died the same year.
How can I find proof of the birth of William's daughter,and his army service. Would his widow have received a pension if he died in service but not through combat?
The widow and daughter moved to the U.S. so I have no British records after William's death.
Thanks for any help.
Title: Re: The 92nds in India
Post by: gortonboy on Tuesday 31 January 12 00:17 GMT (UK)
HI,,,,,William McIntosh b c1846 in Ardclaugh,Nairn,Nairnshire attested for the 92nd regiment of Gordon Highlanders at Edinburgh in 1865,,,he was number 1395,,,,he served in India for nearly 3 years...he served till 1871 before being found unfit for further service.His record also has a brief description of him on enlistment and on discharge,,plus details of the illnesses he contracted,,,but these are difficult to read,,,after leaving the army he was examined in 1872,1873.1874,1875,,presumably to see if he still qualified for his pension,,or just for him to be able to collect his pension.
 ;)
Title: Re: The 92nds in India
Post by: gortonboy on Tuesday 31 January 12 00:25 GMT (UK)
there is a possibility he is the William living in Tore,Ardclach ,Nairnshire in the 1861 census with parents Duncan b 1804 and Margaret b 1808,,both born in Moy ,Invernesshire.
Title: Re: The 92nds in India
Post by: gortonboy on Tuesday 31 January 12 00:26 GMT (UK)
what was the daughters name ?  ;) 
edit,,,,,,  Mary E McIntosh b 1872 ?
Title: Re: The 92nds in India
Post by: angela woolhouse on Tuesday 31 January 12 09:22 GMT (UK)
Hi Gortonboy, Thanks for your help you seem to have found William for me. Thank you. Yes William was born in Ardclash Nairn his father was James both father and son died of diabetes,and both were carpenters. William married Ellen Woodley in on October 7th 1867 a month before both departed for India. A daughter Mary Ellen was born there possibly in 1872. In 1881 Mary is in Devon with her grandmother before joining her mother in Canada or America. I have a copy of a photo of Mary aged 9 in Indian dress. I have followed Mary and her mother to America but the Devon side of her family don't seem to think my William is the right father. There was a William McIntosh who was born married and died in Devon but why then would Mary were Indian clothes?Anyway I want to find my William.
Thanks for your help,where did you find the records?
Title: Re: The 92nds in India
Post by: gortonboy on Tuesday 31 January 12 13:12 GMT (UK)
hi,,,his service record is available on the findmypast website  ;)
Title: Re: The 92nds in India
Post by: gortonboy on Tuesday 31 January 12 13:33 GMT (UK)
family search has this record....mesout  was a transcription error,,,if you look clossely on the 1881 census,,it reads Meerut

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FG8S-FLT
Title: Re: The 92nds in India
Post by: gortonboy on Tuesday 31 January 12 13:50 GMT (UK)
hi,,just a couple of points,,,,,how do you know when he left for India?  his record states he served for almost 3 years,but does not state which 3 years,,,,,you say he left for India in 1867,,and had a daughter in India in 1872,,,,this is a period of 5 years?

how do you know your Williams father is called James...did you buy the marriage certificate to Ellen Woodley?  if so,,,,how do you know this William is "your" William?
Title: Re: The 92nds in India
Post by: gortonboy on Tuesday 31 January 12 14:05 GMT (UK)
where did William die...i cant see a death in Devon in 1876?
Title: Re: The 92nds in India
Post by: angela woolhouse on Tuesday 31 January 12 15:01 GMT (UK)
Hi Gortonboy,nice to talk to you again.
Well, I started researching my Scottish family a few years ago through Scotlands people and through them found each generation back to James,William was not the relative I was looking for, I was more interested in his brother but I had the census records. Someone in America  asked me about William so I started researching him. I have the marriage and death certs.. William died in Exeter on 1st January 1876. He is described as a private in the Hussars age 30 years and as I said both he and James died of diabetes.
I don't know if this is "my" William but the dates military connections and cause of death are leading me this way. I was also told that the child followed her mother to Canada,with her aunt-another Mary. [that fits] The connection I have in America,where Mary Ellen settled seem to think all this fits but I would like to prove it to myself.
Title: Re: The 92nds in India
Post by: gortonboy on Tuesday 31 January 12 15:57 GMT (UK)
well..the hussars isnt the 92nd gordon highlanders?
Title: Re: The 92nds in India
Post by: angela woolhouse on Friday 03 February 12 13:35 GMT (UK)
Just to update you.
I found the records for William Mcintosh on Find my past,this does not seem to be him. I have been in contact with the relatives in America who seem sure William was in the 4th Hussars. Mary Ellen spoke to her Grandchildren about her father and life in Scotland or England. S back to square one. Thanks Gortonboy for your help.