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Title: Church of Scotland
Post by: nort on Sunday 29 January 12 20:26 GMT (UK)
Anyone know if there was a branch of the Church of Scotland in Newcastle or anywhere else in Northumberland during the late 19c ?

Steve
Title: Re: Church of Scotland
Post by: 99phil99 on Sunday 29 January 12 22:15 GMT (UK)

Hi Steve,
There is a book available online through the open library project called  " Fasti Ecclesiae Scoticanae" which is a history of the ministers of the Church of Scotland , it has some  information on the Church of Scotland south of the border.
In Newcastle , Scottish residents of the Sandgate area held their first congregation at "Sommervilles Entry" in 1732, the church moved to Wall Knoll in 1764,  Argyll Street in 1842, the Geographicall Hall at Barras Bridge in 1892 and Benton Terrace Sandyford Road in 1905.

   all the best
         JP
Title: Re: Church of Scotland
Post by: Michael Dixon on Sunday 29 January 12 23:01 GMT (UK)
 

  For list of non-conformist churches in Newcastle, with dates, see

 http://www.genuki.bpears.org.uk/NBL/Newcastle/nonconf.html

 Michael
Title: Re: Church of Scotland
Post by: Geordie Mag on Monday 30 January 12 12:27 GMT (UK)
In the NDFHS journal for spring 2011, there was a very good article about presbyterianism in the Northumberland highland areas, such as the North Tyne and Coquetdale. I am pretty sure that that was where I read about the Presbyterian Church in the area being known as the Scotch church.Certainly a lot of ministers in that area were Scots and there is a tradition that it became established when Covenanting ministers came south over the border to escape persecution. There was a Scotch Church in Berwick, at least in the 1st half of the 19th century and also 2 in Alnwick. Whether these could formally be classified as Church of Scotland is another matter. St James in Northumberland Road, Newcastle, (think that's right) was Church of Scotland at one time, but broke off formal links in the 1830s. There were about a dozen Presbyterian churches in Newcastle in the late 19th century, and some of these may have had Church of Scotland links.
I have a vague memory of an elderly friend of my parents, born at the end of the 19th century, talking about her Scottish parents taking her to a Church of Scotland church in Newcastle on Sundays, and my memory is that it was in the Northumberland Road area. Looking on old lists of churches for Newcastle, I see there was a Trinity Church in Northumberland Road, but I don't know anything about that. Or perhaps it was St James's and a lot of Scots happened to go there.
Title: Re: Church of Scotland
Post by: nort on Monday 30 January 12 17:21 GMT (UK)
thanks all for the replies.I have Scottish ancestors (who were Church of Scotland or Free Church) living in Northumbeland and most of their children were baptised in Methodist chapels down here,and some that i can't find i thought maybe they used a C of S if there was a one nearby.

Steve
Title: Re: Church of Scotland
Post by: heiserca on Monday 06 February 12 16:12 GMT (UK)
Jane Clazey (née Clark) had a series of children baptised in the 1820s at the Chapel Street Presbyterian Relief Chapel in Berwick.  Was it associated with the Church of Scotland, or Free Church, or independent of both? 

The children were:
James Claysey, 21 Jan 1821
Isabella Claysey, 30 March 1823
William Claysey, 13 March 1825
Jane Claysey, 30 March 1827
Joseph Claysey, 21 March 1830

Odd that all these baptisms used the Claysey spelling. The name was commonly written Clazey at Berwick-upon-Tweed but Clazie in Berwickshire, where most of the family lived.

A 6th child was born 1833, Isabella Clark Clazey, her baptism not yet found.  Can anyone assist me with that?  Thank you.


Title: Re: Church of Scotland
Post by: 2zpool on Monday 06 February 12 18:08 GMT (UK)
Shaw's Lane Presby Baptisms

Isabella Clazey born 11 Sep 1833, baptised 6 Oct 1833 d/o William Clasey, Millwirght, of Walkergate and Jane his wife

Burials:

Isabella Clazy, age 20 mo. Walkergate Lane, buried 4 Nov 1824

Joseph Claizey, age 7 yrs Church Street, buried 5 Apr 1837

Baptisms:  Jane Clasey was born 13 Sep 1827 at Walkergate, Joseph Claysey born 22 Feb 1830, Berwick (no street address), William Clasey born 2 Mar 1825, Berwick, mother was written as Jane Clerk

Janis
Title: Re: Church of Scotland
Post by: nort on Monday 06 February 12 19:15 GMT (UK)

Hi Steve,
There is a book available online through the open library project called " Fasti Ecclesiae Scoticanae" which is a history of the ministers of the Church of Scotland , it has some information on the Church of Scotland south of the border.
In Newcastle , Scottish residents of the Sandgate area held their first congregation at "Sommervilles Entry" in 1732, the church moved to Wall Knoll in 1764, Argyll Street in 1842, the Geographicall Hall at Barras Bridge in 1892 and Benton Terrace Sandyford Road in 1905.

 all the best
 JP
if there were any records that existed from these churches,would anyone know where they might be held?
Steve
Title: Re: Church of Scotland
Post by: 99phil99 on Monday 06 February 12 21:26 GMT (UK)
Hi Steve
You couCheck out the Church of Scotland Website
http://www.churchofscotland.org.uk/about_us/how_we_are_organised/historical_records#baptism
However it mainly refers people to another website -Scotlands People
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/
cheers
JP
Title: Re: Church of Scotland
Post by: nort on Sunday 12 February 12 17:43 GMT (UK)
thanks JP,i will try the Tyne & Wear Archives at the Discovery Museum,see if they have any.

Steve