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Title: COMPLETED: Kloof Hotel, Pietermaritzburg any photos anyone?
Post by: 2Harriet on Saturday 28 January 12 17:08 GMT (UK)
Hi rootschatters,
My ggranduncle Robert Irving Johnston retired from Natal police  pre 1933 to set up as hotelier with his wife Daisy in the Kloof Hotel. Does anyone have any photos of it or can tell me anything about it please. I am not sure when he retired but it was between 1912 and when he died in 1933. I have an undated newspaper clipping which has a write up about his retiral and mentions the Kloof hotel.

Thanks
Title: Re: Kloof Hotel, Pietermaritzburg any photos anyone?
Post by: rutti tutti on Saturday 28 January 12 18:24 GMT (UK)
Hi there,
Is it definitely in Pietermaritzburg or is it in Kloof, near Durban?
Ruth
Title: Re: Kloof Hotel, Pietermaritzburg any photos anyone?
Post by: 2Harriet on Saturday 28 January 12 18:51 GMT (UK)
Hi Ruth,
It was definitely Pietermaritzburg -Thanks
Title: Re: Kloof Hotel, Pietermaritzburg any photos anyone?
Post by: pampoen on Friday 03 February 12 12:38 GMT (UK)
Hi found this link to Pietermaritzburg days 1920-1930's.
http://natalia.org.za/Files/17/Natalia%20v17%20article%20p25-48%20C.pdf

No mention of a Kloof hotel, I suspect the hotel was in Kloof Natal and not in Pietermaritzburg.If someone has access to a Braby's directory for those years you may be able to find the details.I was in PMB over Xmas at NAAIRS and found the directories lying on top of a cupboard and managed to find details of my grandfathers flour mill in Vryheid circa 1913-24.

Good luck derek
Title: Re: Kloof Hotel, Pietermaritzburg any photos anyone?
Post by: EllenSmale on Friday 02 March 12 12:52 GMT (UK)
Hi - I've lived in Pietermaritzburg all my life & have never known a Kloof hotel.  It is quite possible that the hotel is actually in Kloof but back then, it was quite a rural area & may have been the Pietermaritzburg magisterial area. Hope this helps, - Regards Ellen
Title: Re: Kloof Hotel, Pietermaritzburg any photos anyone?
Post by: rutti tutti on Monday 05 March 12 05:03 GMT (UK)
Ellen and Derek,
Just had an idea.... Was puzzling about a hotel in PMB and thought about Winterskloof - was there possibly a hotel there? I then thought of the Hilton which was established in 1936...  Maybe  avenues to persue. St Annes was well established by then. Need to think of who to contact....
Ruth
Title: Re: Kloof Hotel, Pietermaritzburg any photos anyone?
Post by: pampoen on Monday 05 March 12 09:27 GMT (UK)
Right here is a link to the history of Hilton and it's hotel.
www.hiltonvillage.co.za/history
Once you open the link you will see you can purchase 2 books for R50 each.One is the history of Hilton the other the history of Winterskloof.You are even be able to ask the author if they know anything about your relative by email.Good luck Derek.
Title: Re: Kloof Hotel, Pietermaritzburg any photos anyone?
Post by: EllenSmale on Monday 05 March 12 10:12 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that link - very interesting!  I am hoping to get to the Archives sometime this week & I'll be sure to check out the Braby's.
Title: Re: Kloof Hotel, Pietermaritzburg any photos anyone?
Post by: rutti tutti on Monday 05 March 12 18:24 GMT (UK)
Ellen why not give Chris Lake a ring - he wrote the books and I think he still lives in Hilton. We used to be involved in the same running club about 30 years ago!!! I will also ask my uncle - my grandfathers family were all in PMB - I only went to college and taught there for a while.
It is a puzzle that is irritating as I just cannot find anything about the hotel.
Ruth
Title: Re: Kloof Hotel, Pietermaritzburg any photos anyone?
Post by: EllenSmale on Wednesday 07 March 12 11:24 GMT (UK)
Hi all - I was at the Archives this morning.  I checked the Braby's 1929 - 1932 for a Kloof hotel in Pietermaritzburg - Definitely nothing!

I have to just say that I was very pleasantly surprised by the assistance offered there - A young Black male helped us look up names on the computer, showed us which File number references were needed & then promised to phone us when the files arrived from their storehouse.  A tall Black lady helped me (I'm rather short!), to retrieve the Braby's/Almanacs from the top of the cupboards.  It really is a fascinating place - I could have stayed there all day!  2Harriet, sorry I couldn't solve your riddle.
Regards, Ellen
Title: Re: Kloof Hotel, Pietermaritzburg any photos anyone?
Post by: 2Harriet on Sunday 18 March 12 21:04 GMT (UK)
Thankyou everyone for your efforts - I will go back to drawing board.!!
Title: Re: Kloof Hotel, Pietermaritzburg any photos anyone?
Post by: kevingb on Tuesday 20 March 12 11:32 GMT (UK)
Harriet -
'Kloof Hotel' is (was ??) definately in Kloof . In the period 1960-75 it was owned and run by Geoff (Jeff) Slingsby - Smith . I am sure that both he and his wife (Di ??) have passed on . I was at school with their son David Slingsby - Smith . David emmigrated to Australia where he worked for a wine farm until his untimely death last year . As far as I know his wife and children are in Australia . Am sure if you google his name under Australian wines you will find some information on him .
Hope this helps .
Kevin
Title: Re: Kloof Hotel, Pietermaritzburg any photos anyone?
Post by: somersethouse on Friday 30 March 12 18:59 BST (UK)
Not sure if this is of any help but the hotel in Kloof was called the 'Fields Hotel' (but also known as the Kloof Hotel). It was situated at the top of Fields Hill and was a lovely old building. It was changed into a shopping centre some years ago - called the 'Fields Shopping Centre'...

I am not aware of a Kloof Hotel in Pietermaritzburg...
Title: Re: COMPLETED- Kloof Hotel, Pietermaritzburg any photos anyone?
Post by: 2Harriet on Sunday 29 April 12 22:04 BST (UK)
Well thanks all-  I can now confirm that the Kloof Hotel was near Durban- confirmed by newfound cousin in SA. Congratulations to all who said it was not in Pietermaritburg. :) :D
Title: Re: Kloof Hotel, Pietermaritzburg any photos anyone?
Post by: rutti tutti on Monday 30 April 12 04:59 BST (UK)
Thanks so much for the reply - It has really been a puzzle to me as I know Pietermaritzburg pretty well and I live close to Kloof so it had me stumped. I walked into the Fields shopping centre on Friday and wondered if it was the Hotel you were referring to. Glad to that you found a cousin.
Ruth
Title: Kloof Hotel, Slingsby-Smith
Post by: Chris Slingsby-Smith on Thursday 05 May 16 15:18 BST (UK)
Hi Kevin, I hope this message finds you well. I found your post about Kloof Hotel and your reference to Geoffrey (Jeff) Slingsby-Smith. Geoffrey was my grandfather, David was my father. as your post says dad pasted away a few years back. i would love to know as much information about Geoffrey and the Kloof Hotel as possible. unfortunately i don't even know my grandfathers date of death. i have been trying to track down his death certificate for years because i want to obtain his WW2 RAF records. i look forward to hearing from you.

kind regards Chris Slingsby-Smith
Title: Re: COMPLETED: Kloof Hotel, Pietermaritzburg any photos anyone?
Post by: gingerbit on Friday 13 May 16 19:46 BST (UK)
Hello Chris,  After asking a few residents in the area I have established that Jeff owned/ran the Moorlands Private Hotel in Kloof  Kzn. He was known as 'Slingers' and if he liked someone he referred to him as 'an awfully good chap'. I don't know a great deal more yet but a local historian is also looking for details for me. Now I know it was the Moorlands Hotel I may find out more. Definitely was not Field's hotel as he was known to enjoy a few glasses of whatever in that establishment on occasion, and it would appear that any hotel in the area was called Kloof Hotel !  No details yet on Robert Johnston and which hotel he had an interest in but will pass on any information.
As luck would have it our local library has been closed this week for stock taking but will ask there next week for any historical info. You never know, there maybe something.
Also, look at 'Forces War Records.co.uk' for Jeff's war records.  After posting a query a couple of years ago they are still sending me advisories regarding a possible ancestor. Could be worth a try.
Hope this helps.
   
Title: Re: COMPLETED: Kloof Hotel, Pietermaritzburg any photos anyone?
Post by: sarah on Monday 11 July 16 11:24 BST (UK)
Hello Chris,

Welcome to RootsChat :)

I have just sent Kevin a message to let him know of your reply, there looks to be a problem with his email at the moment. I hope to see him back very soon.

Regards

Sarah
Title: Re: COMPLETED: Kloof Hotel, Pietermaritzburg any photos anyone?
Post by: kevingb on Tuesday 30 August 16 13:01 BST (UK)
Chris , hi  -

Sorry for no reply to your post , but have moved companies and also not very active on Rootschat .
I would be happy to respond to any of your queries relating to 'Slinger' (gramps and your dad) .

Regards
Kevin Baxter
Title: Re: COMPLETED: Kloof Hotel, Pietermaritzburg any photos anyone?
Post by: sarah on Tuesday 30 August 16 13:33 BST (UK)
Hi Kevin,

I have just updated your RootsChat email notification address, whenever people post updates to your posts you will now be notified now that we have a working email for you.

Regards

Sarah :)

Title: Re: COMPLETED: Kloof Hotel, Pietermaritzburg any photos anyone?
Post by: kevingb on Tuesday 30 August 16 14:29 BST (UK)
Many thanks Sarah

Kevin
Title: Re: COMPLETED: Kloof Hotel, Pietermaritzburg any photos anyone?
Post by: kevingb on Thursday 15 September 16 11:35 BST (UK)
Chris  -

Hope all well down under (Wallabys smiling again ???)
Please let me know how to contact you so that I can send you the information I have on your gramps and dad . I also have some research agents names who I contacted when doing my research ---  very difficult doing it from a distance and by email .

Kevin Baxter