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Title: Peter Aungier and Mary Aungier
Post by: newmark401 on Saturday 28 January 12 10:23 GMT (UK)
Peter Aungier played some lawn tennis in Ireland and England in the early 1880s, but it is very difficult to track down any concrete biographical information on him. That said, a 55-year-old Peter Aungier appears on the 1901 Census of Ireland, which states that he's living in Foxrock, married, a land proprietor and Roman Catholic. Also that he was born in Ireland. But it's virtually impossible to connect him to lawn tennis.

A Mary Aungier also appears in one or two draws for women's singles events at lawn tennis tournaments in the early 1880s. It seems likely that she was related to Peter, perhaps his sister (definitely not his wife).

A Google search for Peter Aungier tends to bring up Saint Peter's Church, which used to be located in Aungier Street, Dublin. That's not really a help. I believe Aungier, which sounds French, is an old Huguenot name.

Would anyone be able to provide or point to any concrete information on Peter Aungier's or Mary Aungier's origins and later life?

Mark
Title: Re: Peter Aungier and Mary Aungier
Post by: shanew147 on Saturday 28 January 12 10:53 GMT (UK)
a few additional details on the Aungier family (http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Stillorgan/Foxrock/1314435/) mentioned on the 1901 census. Shows that Peter was born in England ?

The location at Foxrock would be very close to Carrickmines tennis club - assuming it was at the same location back then.

Based on baptisms the family lived for a time during the 1880s at Northbrook Road, which is between Leeson Street and Ranelagh - close to both Fitzwilliam and Mount Pleasant LTCs..

  Baptism of Jacobus Aungier - 4 Nov 1881 (http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/2fd4120024449)
  Baptism of Julia Mary Aungier - 15 Aug 1884 (http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/4aee9b0025204)
  Baptism of Gertrude Mary Aungier - 27 Sept 1882 (http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/6452e90024739)

There's a possible marriage for Peter and Julia in Naas, Co. Kildare - two entries in the index - so maybe both a civil and church marriage ?

  Name: Peter Aungier
  Registration district: Naas
  Event type: Marriage
  Quarter and year: Jan-Mar 1881
  Volume:   2 / Page:   822 and 827

  Name : Julia Scully
  [same index entries as Peter]

I dont see Peter or Julia on the 1911 return, or likely deaths for Peter  on the BMD Index..


Shane
Title: Re: Peter Aungier and Mary Aungier
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 28 January 12 10:54 GMT (UK)
If you put "peter aungier" dublin into Google search it eliminates entries for Aungier St. in Dublin, etc.

Here's the Peter Aungier and family you found in 1901 census-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Stillorgan/Foxrock/1314435/

Family tree shows wife as Julia Scully, etc.
http://www.eyrehistory.net/australia_CVJ/fam203.html

Added after seeing Shane's post- Peter died 1914 according to family tree.
Title: Re: Peter Aungier and Mary Aungier
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 28 January 12 10:58 GMT (UK)
Here they are in 1911 (mistranscribed as Qungin)-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Donnybrook/Simmonscourt/43612/
Title: Re: Peter Aungier and Mary Aungier
Post by: shanew147 on Saturday 28 January 12 11:01 GMT (UK)
Here they are in 1911 (mistranscribed as Qungin)-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Donnybrook/Simmonscourt/43612/

good find!... his writing is a little difficult to read on that form.

I dont quite believe some of the details on that Tree - Julia Scully born Logan County, Illinois, U.S.A, turns up with place of birth as Ireland on the English 1871 census then appears on both the Irish census returns with place of birth of 'Dublin City'.


Shane
Title: Re: Peter Aungier and Mary Aungier
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 28 January 12 11:04 GMT (UK)
I just searched for a Peter in 1911 census born in England! The family tree gives his birthplace as Ireland but both census say England but it might be possible for Mark to contact tree owner to see if there is a tennis connection.
Title: Re: Peter Aungier and Mary Aungier
Post by: newmark401 on Saturday 28 January 12 13:59 GMT (UK)
Thanks to Shane and aghadowey for the replies and all of the helpful information. I see that a Mr Aungier and a Miss Aungier played in the mixed doubles event at the inaugural Irish Lawn Tennis Championships, held in Fitzwilliam Square, Dublin, in early June 1879. This is probably Peter and his sister (?) Mary.

Some sources give Peter's year of birth as 1858, but he gives his age as 46 in the 1901 Census of Ireland. Either way, he would have been in his early or mid-twenties in 1879. I looked through the "Irish Times" for a death notice for him in the year 1914, but found nothing.

Mark
Title: Re: Peter Aungier and Mary Aungier
Post by: eadaoin on Saturday 28 January 12 20:49 GMT (UK)
If he's Roman Catholic, I think I'd expect his Death Notice to be in the Freemans Journal, not the Times.

eadaoin

edit: I see FreeBMD gives a 69 year old Peter Aungier dying in Bristol 4th quarter 1915
Title: Re: Peter Aungier and Mary Aungier
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 28 January 12 21:18 GMT (UK)
If he's Roman Catholic, I think I'd expect his Death Notice to be in the Freemans Journal, not the Times.

eadaoin

edit: I see FreeBMD gives a 69 year old Peter Aungier dying in Bristol 4th quarter 1915

Aungier Peter of 10 Frederick-place Clifton Bristol gentleman died 20 October 1915 Probate Bristol 1 November to the very reverend William Lee canon roman catholic. Effects £630 9s 6d.

Could this be the correct Mary?
Aungier Mary of The Court Ashbourne county Meath spinster died on or about 11 May 1917 at the Mater Misericordiae Nursing Home Eccles-street Dublin Administration (with Will) Dublin to walter Walsh gentleman. Effects £3298 5s 2d in England. Sealed London 3 November.

(National Probate Calendar)
Title: Re: Peter Aungier and Mary Aungier
Post by: hanes teulu on Saturday 28 January 12 21:51 GMT (UK)
London Standard 17 Jan 1881
Marriages
Aungier-Scully- Jan 11 at the private chapel, Longtown, County Kildare, by the Rev A Kinsella, Peter Aungier, third son of the late Mark Aungier, Esq, J.P, to Julia, second daughter of William Scully, Esq

regards
 
Title: Re: Peter Aungier and Mary Aungier
Post by: newmark401 on Sunday 29 January 12 11:36 GMT (UK)
Thanks to agahdowey and hanes  teulu for the replies. It's a pity those birth, death and marriage notices rarely mention the word "tennis"!

Mark
Title: Re: Peter Aungier and Mary Aungier
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 29 January 12 11:40 GMT (UK)
Shane mentioned a local tennis club earlier- might be worth contacting them to see if they can help
http://www.carrickmines.com/
Title: Re: Peter Aungier and Mary Aungier
Post by: hanes teulu on Sunday 29 January 12 14:38 GMT (UK)
A couple more "sightings" of a Peter Aungier

Freemans Journal & Daily Commercial Advertiser 31 May 1898
GOLF - Foxrock Club
The monthly competiotion for the club competition...Mr Peter Aungier was the winner with a net score of 72 (90 less, 18 handicap)

Belfast News Letter 21 November 1881
The Magistracy - the following have been appointed to the Commissioners of the Peace
COUNTY DUBLIN
Peter Aungier, Belcamp, St Doulogh's, Esq

Freeman's etc Jun 22 1882
The clerk reported that he had selected Mr Peter Aungier, J.P of Belcamp, St Doulogh's, County Dublin..... to fill the vacancy in the list of ex-officio guardians, ....

Two mentions (26 May 1881 and 24 May 1883) of him as a member of the "Fitzwilliam Club"

Not a sighting of Peter but a family link
Freeman's etc May 31 1877
DEATHS - Aungier, Mar 29, at the residence of her sister, Mrs Pilsworth, 30 Eccles St, Miss Alice Augnier, third daughter of the late Mark Aungier, of Lays, County Dublin, and sister to the late Peter Augnier.......

None of the tennis references I have found include any biographical date eg age. Perhaps the golf club (founded 1893), tennis club  or records of the Dublin Union (if available) might be worth checking out

regards



Title: Re: Peter Aungier and Mary Aungier
Post by: Anthony MJ on Saturday 23 February 13 16:23 GMT (UK)
My mother was one of that Scully family.  Here are the facts I got from her long ago.
Peter Aungier was born 1858 at Olney, Westminister Rd. Blackrock , Dublin.  He married 1881 Julia Scully, daughter of the famous or infamous William Scully by his first marriage to Margaret Sweetman, born in Illinois in 1853.  They had 3 children, Charles b. 1881, Gertrude d.y. 1882 and Julia b. 1884.  Her Scully family were living in Priory Lodge, Blackrock at that time.  She was born 1895 and I often heard her speak of Julia (Jun.) as a friend.  Julia (Scully) Aungier died in 1947 at Greystones, Co. Wicklow.  Peter died in 1914 she said but I could not find any documentation.  Was there some mystery about it ?  The Mary Peter was paying tennis with in 1879 seems to have been a sister as you suggest