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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: jennigal923 on Thursday 26 January 12 16:14 GMT (UK)
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Hello
This church has been demolished and apparently no sign of a graveyard. I am curious, does anyone know if the Church, when it still stood, have a cemetery? If it did, were gravestones destoyed when the land was cleared? Did someone take time to record inscriptions?
If not, would those who, according to records, were buried at the church (or hopefully buried associated with the church), be located in a nearby cemetery.
Also curious if anyone has come accross a picture of the church when it still stood?
Jenni
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If you put the name in google maps and go to street view, there is a church. Not sure if this is the one you mean. Do you have an address for this church?
Heather
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Hi Heather
Tried this but can't find street view option :(
However, I'm pretty sure this is the church I want: http://www.genuki.eu/CHS/Church416.htm
Could you send me a link to what you looked at?
Thanks for the help
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I have found a picture of the one on Castle Street
Go to www.stockport.gov.uk
In the search box put IMAGE ARCHIVE
When you get to the online archive page, put
methodist church
tick religious
tick edgeley
There are lots of pictures of churches in Edgeley there.
If you can't find it, send me your email address by personal message and I will email the link to you.
It won't let me copy the picture.
Heather
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There's St Matthews Church on Grenville Street that runs just off Castle Street in Edgeley
Olie
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Hello
Got a feeling it is on the 'Precinct' possibly where Somerville is / was.
Try Stockportt Heritage Library
By e-mail at: localheritagelibrary@stockport.gov.uk
By telephone on: 0161 474 4530
Or by visiting:
Stockport Local Heritage Library,
Stockport Central Library,
Wellington Road South, ( A6)
Stockport.
SK1 3RS
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Around that part of Stockport there were several Methodist chapels .
As some of my research is in this neck of the woods I hold onto this link (now double checked to make sure its still there!) and page 35 of this 94 page pdf file gives you the references numbers and dates to check with the local heritage library.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0k0t/
Good hunting
PS having spoken to someone who attended Castle Street (Wesleyan) when this closed they had a special closing service in the early 1970's. The remaining congregation went to Edgeley Road (still on Edgeley Road and for "the pureist" in Cheadle ..............but not 1/4 mile away). If your ancestor does not appear in the records of the burial ground of Castle Street chapel for the 1870 period then the usual place to use was Stockport Cemetry which was further out on Wellington Road. The only Methodist chapel my contact can recall having a burial ground at the time you are seeking was Castle Street (Wesleyan Methodist. )
Note - the pictures on the Stockport archive show a building with columns - apparently that was the church itself. The building to the west-ish of it that, looks more like a typical methodist chapel, was the Sunday School. The burial ground was apparently between the two and at the time of closure of the church - due to falling attendance - most graves were "closed" and none were or only "a couple" were available for any future internment.
Perhaps those on the Cheshire board may be able to assist further.
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Thank you, everyone, for the help :D
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Hi,
The original Wesleyan chapel did have a graveyard which was under Somerfield's car park.
Some of my husband's ancestors were buried there. When I contacted Stockport Crematorium I was told that the remains were exhumed and reburied at the crematorium.
I am a volunteer at a Family History Society and we have transcribed the grave details.
I would love to look up a specific person for you but unfortuanately our Research Centre will close on Monday due to the Coronavirus and will not reopen until the Government gives us the all clear.
Poirot
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Useful info. poirot; thanks. I have a few rellies in there but didn’t know they’d been exhumed.
Which FHS/Research Centre holds the records?
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It is the Family History Society of Cheshire.
It is a pity I did not find your query last week when I was on duty and could have looked at the records for you.
As I said unfortunately our Research Centre closed on Monday due to the Coronavirus until it is deemed safe to reopen.
Poirot
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I have some news for you. Our Librarian has sent me the list of the people buried at the Chapel so if you let me know who you are interested in I will see if they have been recorded.
Regards,
Poirot
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Thanks for the offer poirot but there’s nobody I’m looking for specifically at the moment - I not sure whether the records are on FindMyPast?
I’ve been meaning to join the FHSC ever since the NCFHS gave up the ghost!
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I am sure they are not on Find my Past.
We have them on fiche and a paper copy in our library. The original registers are in Stockport Heritage Library but I assume the Library is closed at the moment due to the Coronavirus.
Keep well.
Poirot
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Yes, you're right. After a quick check of what I have, it looks like the information came from other sources.
The only specific "look -up" I'd like is to see who might be in the same grave as Joseph WHITEHEAD who died in Stockport Workhouse on 21 March 1888 and was buried "by friends" on 24 March 1888.
Thanks
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There is only Hannah Whitehead listed who died 26/5/1836 aged 38. She is in grave D32.
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A bit more info. On Ancestry you can see the original register under Non Conformist records and I have the CD's for The National Burial Index so he is definitely buried in Edgeley Weselyan Chapel graveyard.
But because he died in the poorhouse there is no stone.
poirot
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Hello Poirot
Thank you so much for connecting with us. Could you look up Rev. John Robert Thompson Hawksley (Methodist Minister) and Isaac Linney (Lay Methodist Minister and father-in-law of Robert)? And any others with that last name.
Regards
Jenni
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Hi, I hope this information is what you are looking for.
Buried together in grave F7 are:-
Isaac Linney 13/2/1879 aged 77
Elizabeth Linney 8/10/1857 aged 58
Rev Robert J T Hawksley 12/9/1881 aged 64
Maria Hawksley 15/5/1903 aged 73
Cheers
Poirot
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Thank you Poirot
Perfect! THANK YOU - I wish that the headstones had been preserved :O( Would love to have that piece of history.
Regards
Jenni
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Hi Jenni,
Glad to help.
Have you seen Isaac's will which is on Find my Past. He names his two daughter Mary Ann Leigh & Maria Hawksley.
poirot
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Sorry I gave you the wrong info it is the Rev Hawksley's will that I looked at.
Poirot
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I have some news for you. Our Librarian has sent me the list of the people buried at the Chapel so if you let me know who you are interested in I will see if they have been recorded.
Regards,
Poirot
Hello there,
I have just come across this post.
One of my 5x great grandad's was Henry Henshaw (1773 - 1849).
Henry was buried at this Cemetery on the 3rd of May 1849. I believe Henry is buried in grave G62, and his wife Hannah (nee Woodall 1778 - 1857), was buried in the same grave on the 16th of March 1857.
Do you please know if anyone else was buried in grave G62?
I think their daughter Ann who died unmarried may have been buried there on the 2nd of December 1874, but I'm not certain.
Any information would be gratefully accepted.
Thank you very much. :) ;)
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A bit more info. On Ancestry you can see the original register under Non Conformist records and I have the CD's for The National Burial Index so he is definitely buried in Edgeley Weselyan Chapel graveyard.
But because he died in the poorhouse there is no stone.
poirot
Thanks for the info Poirot - sorry, I’m only 10 months late! - don’t know why I dropped out of the loop on this one ??!!
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There are three Henshaw graves. B62 has Henry Henshaw d. 1/5/1849 aged76, Hannah d. 11/3/1857 aged 78, Emma d. 14/6/1846 aged 27, Mary Kinch d. 15/1/1850 aged 50 & Elizabeth Henshaw d. 17/12/1854 aged 43.
Next to it in B63 are Ann Henshaw d. 24/11/1874 aged 71 & Mary Ann Hamilton d. 1/6/1857 aged 24.
The 3rd grave is L46 and in it are Peter Henshaw d. 17/10/1861 aged 68, Ann d. 2/5/1840 aged 42, Samuel d. 17/10/1835 aged 9, John d. 28/2/1845 aged 9 & Harriet d. 20/3/1845 aged 13.
Looking at the size of the graveyard I would think that the stones are underneath the tarmac of the car park and I don't believe the remains were exhumed and reburied in Stockport Crematorium like I was told.
Not sure if I mentioned it in an earlier post but there was an article in a local Stockport paper reporting that human bones had been found during roadworks near Somerfields. I let the paper know that there had been a graveyard there.
My husband's great grandmother was Sarah Henshaw a daughter of Henry & Hannah.
I was lucky enough to have inherit a beautiful sampler sewn by Emma in 1830, the youngest daughter. It lists Henry & Hannah with their 10 children and their dates of birth. Absolutely brilliant.
Poirot
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There are three Henshaw graves. B62 has Henry Henshaw d. 1/5/1849 aged76, Hannah d. 11/3/1857 aged 78, Emma d. 14/6/1846 aged 27, Mary Kinch d. 15/1/1850 aged 50 & Elizabeth Henshaw d. 17/12/1854 aged 43.
Next to it in B63 are Ann Henshaw d. 24/11/1874 aged 71 & Mary Ann Hamilton d. 1/6/1857 aged 24.
The 3rd grave is L46 and in it are Peter Henshaw d. 17/10/1861 aged 68, Ann d. 2/5/1840 aged 42, Samuel d. 17/10/1835 aged 9, John d. 28/2/1845 aged 9 & Harriet d. 20/3/1845 aged 13.
Looking at the size of the graveyard I would think that the stones are underneath the tarmac of the car park and I don't believe the remains were exhumed and reburied in Stockport Crematorium like I was told.
Not sure if I mentioned it in an earlier post but there was an article in a local Stockport paper reporting that human bones had been found during roadworks near Somerfields. I let the paper know that there had been a graveyard there.
My husband's great grandmother was Sarah Henshaw a daughter of Henry & Hannah.
I was lucky enough to have inherit a beautiful sampler sewn by Emma in 1830, the youngest daughter. It lists Henry & Hannah with their 10 children and their dates of birth. Absolutely brilliant.
Poirot
Thank you very much for this.
So Henry and Hannah are buried in B62, and not G62?
I think I got the G62 reference from "N Cheshire Memorial Inscriptions" on Find My Past, but may have been mistaken.
You are very lucky to have inherited that sampler. :)
My 4x great was William Henshaw, son of Henry. He was born on the 26th of October 1805, according to his baptism.
William is the only one of Henry's children I have an actual birth date for.
Thank you very much. :) ;)
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Oops sorry about that typing error. Yes definitely grave G62.
I have 216 people on my Henshaw tree going back to the 17 hundreds. I no longer post my trees as public due to incorrect information being added by other people who have no relation to my various lines.
I live a few minutes walk from Henry & Hannah's Heathbank House and what was their Smithy.
I met the present owners a few years ago and was invited in which was interesting. I have a copy of Henry's will.
Their son James, also a Blacksmith, had his Smithy attached to one of the cottages where I live.
The Smithy is no longer there but the anvil is still in one of the gardens. Originally four cottages but now two and still owned by descendants of James and his four children.
Your William & his brother Thomas had a business together in Stockport and as they were Blacksmiths & Wheelwrights they made tradesmen's vehicles in addition to their normal work. You probably already know this.
There are a number of Henshaw graves in my local parish Church graveyard of All Saint's, Cheadle Hulme.
The graves in Stockport are in Christchurch and St Thomas's graveyards.
If you would like any other information I would be more than happy to share with you by message or email.
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Thank you. :)
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Hi Poirot, Not sure if you are still doing look-ups for Cheadle Edgeley Methodist Church. If you are I would be very grateful if you could please look up Sarah and John Lightbown, both buried here in 1849 and 1852. Their son, Joseph, was buried here in 1834 (Grave B9) and not sure if they are all together.
Many thanks