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Title: Clonmellon Comaskeys
Post by: tickle49 on Wednesday 25 January 12 22:37 GMT (UK)
My grandfather, William John Cumiskey, was born in Clonmellon in 1901.  His parents were Francis Comesky (b. 1856/7) and Ann Philips who married in 1885 in Clonmellon.  Using the 1901/1911 census and the indexed parish registers on RootsIreland I've identified with reasonable certainty their other children, and also Francis' parents as Patrick Cumaskey and Margaret Dugdale (m. 1852).  Patrick & Margaret's family also included a son Patrick who married Mary Keevan/Keenan in 1884  in Clonmellon - another family listed in the 1901/1911 census in Clonmellon.  I want to establish where the third Comaskey family living in Clonmellon at that time fits in.  This was Jane Comaskey, a widow, and her children.  Jane (Lawler) married a Patrick Comaskey in 1873 in Clonmellon.  I believe all these families were related but can't find the evidence.  Can anyone suggest further research avenues?
Title: Re: Clonmellon Comaskeys
Post by: Erin2012 on Thursday 26 January 12 15:14 GMT (UK)
Have you been able to check the marriage certificate or the death certificates for Jane (Lawler) and Patrick Comaskey. There should be the parents names on the marriage certificate....
Title: Re: Clonmellon Comaskeys
Post by: tickle49 on Thursday 26 January 12 19:39 GMT (UK)
Thanks for your suggestions.  I haven't been able to find any civil registration record yet for this marriage or trace either Patrick or Jane's deaths.  The indexed Clonmellon parish register has been reviewed by another family member but seems very sparse.  The record for Patrick & Jane's marriage says their ages, occupations, and parents names were not recorded.  Is there any way I can access the original ie hand written registers for Clonmellon?
Title: Re: Clonmellon Comaskeys
Post by: shanew147 on Thursday 26 January 12 20:03 GMT (UK)
Historic records for the RC parish of Clonmellon are available in the National Library on Microfilm Pos. 4187. RC marriage records often dont show as much detail as civil certs.

 see : Details included on a Civil Marriage Cert (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433042.0.html)

I had a quick search on the BMD Index for an 1873 Jane Lawler/Patrick Comaskey marriage - but didn't see any good matches


Shane
Title: Re: Clonmellon Comaskeys
Post by: Erin2012 on Thursday 26 January 12 20:22 GMT (UK)
Which Registration District corresponded to Clonmellon?  I dont mind taking a look too, who knows 6 eyes may be better than 4!?!??!
Title: Re: Clonmellon Comaskeys
Post by: tickle49 on Thursday 26 January 12 20:57 GMT (UK)
Thanks for all your help.  I think Delvin was the relevant registration district.  Does the National Library microfilm show the original records or the Fas transcriptions?  I'm not able to get to the National Library myself at the moment but could make arrangements for a family member to do so if this is the case.
Title: Re: Clonmellon Comaskeys
Post by: shanew147 on Thursday 26 January 12 21:23 GMT (UK)
The NLI films are of the parish registers.

The registration district for Clonmellon should be Delvin, sometimes listed as Castletowndelvin    


Shane
Title: Re: Clonmellon Comaskeys
Post by: patrickcarolan on Wednesday 30 April 14 16:01 BST (UK)
Just a wee note to the person looking for info about Jane Lawler and the Comaskey family . My gran was a Lawlor notice the o and I do remember my late dad telling me about relations in the Clonmellon area and the name CUMUSKEY .My dad who would be 90 now had a grandaunt called Jane Lawlor who is buried in an unmarked grave in Killallan graveyard and one of his uncles was buried in the same plot ,as young man I was at the funeral .I cannot put my email down but would fill you in on a lot more than what I written as I myself with a friend in Adelaide are trying to make a similar connection ,one final thing both our granddads were married twice which doesn't help.
Title: Re: Clonmellon Comaskeys
Post by: sarah on Friday 02 May 14 13:12 BST (UK)
Hi Pat,

Welcome to RootsChat :)

You are unable to open your private message from Tickle49 because as a new member you have to make another post on RootsChat to be able read your message.

Regards

Sarah :)
Title: Re: Clonmellon Comaskeys
Post by: scobo on Sunday 24 August 14 17:29 BST (UK)
I have a birth certificate of my great grandmother Margaret Anne Cumiskey born in 18/5/1886 to Frank Cumiskey  and Anne Phillips in Clonmellon, I'm a newcomer to this any help would be appreciated
Title: Re: Clonmellon Comaskeys
Post by: tickle49 on Sunday 24 August 14 22:13 BST (UK)
As far as I know Margaret Anne was the eldest of Anne & Frank Cumiskey's children but I've never been able to trace her descendants.  She would have been my great aunt.  I'd love to see a copy of her birth certificate and to know who she married, where she lived, and who were her children etc.  I have a tree on ancestry which I'll happily share with you which will show her siblings and aunts & uncles.  I hope this will give you a good start in your family history.  Do you have any other information about Frank & Anne; particularly Frank's father Patrick?

Chris
Title: Re: Clonmellon Comaskeys
Post by: scobo on Monday 25 August 14 19:26 BST (UK)
Thanks Chris for your email and your offer of help that would be great ,my mum and my aunt are gathering information as we speak:) and hopefully on Thursday ill post you with information.   Cheers Scott
Title: Re: Clonmellon Comaskeys
Post by: tickle49 on Friday 29 August 14 08:14 BST (UK)
Hi Scott

Thanks for your last post.  Did Margaret Anne and John remain in Glasgow?  Was Frank the eldest child born somewhere between 1908 & 1911?  I'm trying to find them in 1911 census and the work forward to sort out children.

cheers
Chris
Title: Re: Clonmellon Comaskeys
Post by: scobo on Monday 01 September 14 19:17 BST (UK)
Hi Chris i have some photos as promised for you Margaret's birth certificate and a photo of her and Delia
Title: Re: Clonmellon Comaskeys
Post by: tickle49 on Monday 01 September 14 20:35 BST (UK)
That would be fantastic Scott.  Will you email them.  Can I just check you received my emails with copies of other certificates etc.  Chris
Title: Re: Clonmellon Comaskeys
Post by: scobo on Monday 01 September 14 22:37 BST (UK)
I have received your files Chris but i dont think my photos and emails have went through,i will persevere:)
Title: Re: Clonmellon Comaskeys
Post by: scobo on Thursday 04 September 14 19:49 BST (UK)
Hi Chris I'm still struggling with the photos keep rejecting them because of filename  I'll have another attempt this weekend. I have information on Margaret Anne Cumiskey's children,Frank married Esther children Margaret ,Anne, May and Frank.Alec married divorcee Edith and adopted her son Peter.Jack married Alice children Margaret ,Cathy and Denis.Bill married Nettie Brown children William and Jeanette.Joe married unknown moved to Wales no children.Annie married John Rice children Grace and Patricia.Edward was unmarried but had child called Delia.       Thanks for your efforts much appreciated Scott
Title: Re: Clonmellon Comaskeys
Post by: tickle49 on Thursday 04 September 14 20:47 BST (UK)
Hi Scott
Let me know if you continue to have problems sending your files.  Do you have my personal email?  I can always sort out a dropbox folder or similar to which you can upload them.
Thanks for this additional info.  I presume Jack was your grandfather John.
Also are all these families, other than Joseph who moved to Wales, based in Glasgow/Scotland?  I ask because I find Scotlandspeople website a struggle to use effectively without spending large amounts chasing red herrings!  Unfortunately there are really no real alternatives when researching Scottish families.
Hopefully my Ancestry tree will give you a good start on your Cumiskey links.  Sadly I think you may find your Welsh family history a bigger challenge as it seems to be a common name in Glasgow.  That said, I can tell you that your great grandfather John had a brother Alexander who had a wife Jeanie and daughter Catherine (1901 census for Commerce Street Glasgow).
Chris
Title: Re: Clonmellon Comaskeys
Post by: scobo on Thursday 11 September 14 19:14 BST (UK)
Thanks for your email Chris unfortunately I've no been able to send the photos,if you could send me your email or Dropbox I will send them this weekend.Jack  is my grandfather John ,he and the majority of his family all remained in Glasgow,thanks again for your help
Title: Re: Clonmellon Comaskeys
Post by: tickle49 on Thursday 11 September 14 22:11 BST (UK)
Scott....you should already have my personal email address from the 3 messages I sent with attached Cumiskey family birth, marriage, & death certificates.  Let me know if you didn't get these.
Chris