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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Topic started by: jaxmum on Wednesday 25 January 12 17:45 GMT (UK)
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Hi, I am trying to find descendants (if any) of Samuel and Mary (a.k.a. Polly) Davies who emigrated c1908 to Vancouver. Samuel was born 1874 in Llangollen, Wales, UK. Mary's maiden name was Clark and she was born in 1875 in Wrexham Wales (UK). Samuel and Mary had a son, Samuel Edward Davies born 1909 in Vancouver.
In 1911 Mary returned to Wales on a visit and gave birth to a daughter, Gladys. She left Gladys behind with her in-laws, Edward and Elizabeth Davies when she and young Samuel returned to Canada.
Samuel (snr) returned once for a short visit but by then Gladys did not know him and did not want to go with him to Canada. After that visit the family lost touch with Mary and Samuel.
That is the sum total of my information regarding the family.
If any of the above ties in with something in your family I would love to hear from you.
Regards
Jaxmum
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Hello Jaxmum
There is a tree on A*****y for Samuel Davies is that yours?
If not there is a date of death for Samuel of 1917. Did not find one for that year but found one for 1918
Went onto the following Vital Event Indexes-BC Archives
www.bcarchives.gov.ca/textual/govermmt/vstats/v+events.htm
and found a death for a Samuel Davies which seems to fit
Samuel Davies
Death 1918 3 12
44 years
Vancouver
Registration # 1918 09 151624
Found nothing for his wife Mary.
Found a marriage for Samuel Edward Davies
Samuel Edward Davies
Marriage
Pauline Gertrude Bailey
Place Burnaby
1933 4 26
Registration # 1933-09-407802
No death information for Samuel E or Pauline.
I can request copies of the death reg and the marriage reg from the library in BC the cost is $3.50 Canadian each.
They will email them to me and I can forward them on to you.
Lilybell
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The transcription at the LDS site for the death registration Lilybell referenced indicates Samuel was born 14 Oct 1873 in Wales and his father's name was Edward. The names of his mother and wife were not listed.
Jacquie
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Hi Lilybell - Thanks for your really prompt research into my request! The tree you refer to could be mine - but there are at least 3 other members of the extended Davies family also researching the family. What you have found would probably explain why Mary (aka Polly) lost touch with the family, because presumably she remarried and moved away - possibly to Ottawa. Thanks for the offer to get copies of the relevant certificates, but I don't think I'll bother at this stage.
My sincere thanks for your help.
Jaxmum
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Thanks Jacquie - this would appear to be the correct Samuel. Your help is much appreciated.
Jaxmum
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The Samuel Davies who died in 1918 is buried at Mountain View Cemetery in Vancouver. Perhaps they may have more information in their files or would be able to add a gravestone.
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http://www.rootschat.com/links/0jzq/
Obituary for Pauline Gertrude
debbie
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You could contact Collingwood Baptist church to see if they have more information on descendants of Samuel and Pauline.
www.collingwoodbaptist.org/ContactUs.html
Hope the site above works for you.
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Grateful thanks Debbie for the link to Pauline's obituary. It's amazing to find something like this.
Many, many thanks to you.
Jaxum.
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Valeriec, Many thanks to you for your help and information re the Davies family. I've just tried the link to the Collingwood Baptist Church, but it appears to have gremlins tonight. Will try again tomorrow.
Once again, many, many thanks.
Jaxmum.
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I've been trying to figure out why Gladys would have been left with her grandparents.
Do you have a copy of her birth certificate please?
Is it possible that she wasn't Samuel's daughter?
I'm connected to this Davies family through my 3x Gt. Grandmother, Thamer Davies who was the sister of Samuel Davies born c1811. Samuel's son was Edward Davies born 1843 and Edwards's son was Samuel born 1874.
I'd love to have more information about Samuel born 1909 and his descendants if you could help me please?
Sue
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Sorry - meant to add that as no death can be found for Mary Davies, is it possible that she married again after Samuel died?
I don't have access to the Canadian census so can't check.
Sue
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Look what I've found!
DAVIES _ Pauline Gertrude passed peacefully into the presence of our loving Lord on
December 7, 2002. Born in Toronto, Ontario on May 9, 1911 and predeceased by her husband
Samuel Edward Davies, she has been both the cherished centerpiece of a family who have
treasured her for her beautiful spirit and faith filled loving commitment to each one of
us as well as a wonderful friend, mentor and inspiration to countless others. A memorial
service to celebrate and honour her life will be held at 1:00 pm on Saturday, December
14, 2002 at Collingwood Baptist Church, 4847 Joyce Street, Vancouver. Floral tributes
are gratefully declined and we respectfully invite anyone so wishing to make a memorial
contribution to Central Park Manor or Collingwood Baptist Church.
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Sorry - I didn't realise that someone had found Pauline Davie's Obit! :-[
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Was Samuel(1874) the son of Edward Davies and Elizabeth Ellis?If so I also have him in my Tree!
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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Yes William - we've corresponded in the past!
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Its splitting hairs perhaps but I have Samuel born in Glyn Ceiriog.
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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Yes, you're correct - Samuel was born in Glyn Ceiriog.
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Does this refer to the marriage given on North Wales BMD in 1904 as a Wrexham Civil Marriage between a Samuel Davies and a Mary E Clarke?
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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Yes, that's the one.
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You must have been hiding all this from me Sue?lolIts a good job I seen this!
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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Perry told me about it last week.
Do you have the same email address?
I can send you some more information.
I don't think we're allowed to give out addresses on this website.
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So Samuel and Mary had two children,Samuel Edward and Gladys.
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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There is the birth of a Gwladys C Davies in the Corwen Registration District of Denbighshire in the Apr/May/Jun quarter of 1911.
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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I didn't think she had a middle name. I thought it was this one but I must admit that I haven't bought a copy of the certificate.
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Gladys Davies Name: Gladys Davies
Mother's Maiden Name: Davies
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1912
Registration district: Wrexham
Inferred County: Cheshire, Denbighshire, Flintshire
Volume: 11b
Page: 496
Have you received my email about Samuel Edward Davies?
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Yes Sue thanks.Well the one I gave could well have been the right one.She could have married though as a Gladys C Davies in 1946 at Wrexham to an Albert D Bryan.There is a death of a Gladys Clarke Bryan in the Denbighshire South District in 1998 giving a birth of 03/04/1911.
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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Yes I saw that but unless you want to buy it and confirm it for me I'll leave it for the moment. ;)
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The Clarke middle name looks very significant!
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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Remember the 1911 Census was taken on the 2nd of April 1911.
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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Apologies,the 1946 marriage was to an Alfred D Bryan.
Regards
William Russell Jones.
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I can send you some more information.
I don't think we're allowed to give out addresses on this website.
You can trade e-mail addresses by private message (PM). Click on the little green scroll under the avatar / picture of the person you want to contact. This will take you to PM and you can trade any private info like e-mail addresses off line.
Happy hunting.
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I suppose one of these could be Mary's death registration?
She kept changing her birthday so I can't be sure.
DEATH Poss – taken from British Columbia, Canada, Death index 1872-1990
Mary Davies b abt 1876 – Death Age 72 – Death date 19.Aug.1948 in Vancouver
Registration number 1948-09-007761 BCA Number B13198 GSU Number 2032482
OR
DEATH – taken from British Columbia Canada, Death index 1872-1990
Mary Davies b abt 1880 – Death age 73 – Death date 08.10.1953 in Vancouver
Registration number 1953-09-009842 BCA Number B13217 GSU Number 2032871
Sue
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No, sorry I was mistaken.
Here are the deaths I mentioned taken from Family Search.
British Columbia Death Registrations, 1872-1986
Death Date:19 Aug 1948
Death Place:Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Mary Davies Age: 72y 5m 14d
Birth Date: 05 Mar 1876
Birthplace: England
Marital Status: Widow
Spouse: Thomas Davies
Father: John Renowden
Mother:Elizabeth Beckerlegg
Film Number: 2032482
Digital Folder Number: 4437856
Image Number: 783
British Columbia Archives Film Number: B13198
Registration Number: 007761
British Columbia Death Registrations, 1872-1986
Death Date:08 Oct 1953
Death Place:Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Mary Davies Age: 74y 2m 4d
Birth Date: 04 Aug 1879
Birthplace: North Wales
Marital Status: Married
Spouse: Owen Davies
Father: John Roberts
Film Number: 2032871
Digital Folder Number: 4437860
Image Number: 1367
British Columbia Archives Film Number: B13217
Registration Number: 53 09 009842
Sue