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Title: help identifying regiment?
Post by: kylejustin on Wednesday 25 January 12 07:13 GMT (UK)
hi all,

i have this photo of a soldier, which is thought to be from before 1900, as the soldier has queen victoria's crown pinned on his neck. is anyone able to identify the uniform?

(http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww65/kylejustin/family%20history/militarymanposswillllshaw.jpg)

thanx for any help.
Title: Re: help identifying regiment?
Post by: Dave the Walrus on Sunday 29 January 12 08:38 GMT (UK)
Hi kylejustin,

To me, it's a cavalry uniform and I think it would have been a heavy cavalry regiment, as the sword looks to be a long, straight sword, whereas light cavalry swords were slightly curved. You could try to find out what heavy cavalry regiments were in the British army in 1900 and take it from there.

Best wishes,

Dave
Title: Re: help identifying regiment?
Post by: kylejustin on Sunday 29 January 12 09:29 GMT (UK)
hi dave, that's interesting, another poster messaged me saying they thought it was army ordnance  ???
Title: Re: help identifying regiment?
Post by: maidmarianoops on Sunday 29 January 12 09:39 GMT (UK)
a bit of help


sylvia
Title: Re: help identifying regiment?
Post by: kylejustin on Sunday 29 January 12 10:31 GMT (UK)
oh that is marvellous! i hadn't thought to ask if it could be restored!
Title: Re: help identifying regiment?
Post by: macintosh on Sunday 29 January 12 11:47 GMT (UK)
Possible Army Store Corps who in 1896 became Army Ordnance Dept. Later RAOC, I have looked at every Cavalry Hussar and Yeomanry Regiment and can't find one who wear Victorisan Crown as Collar Badge, However Army Store Corps do wear that crown as Collar badge,

The forsage cap without badge is confusing, unless it is on the cusp of change from pillbox hat to one with small peak. the lack of rank insignia is also strange.

My contribution for what it is worth.

James
Title: Re: help identifying regiment?
Post by: scrimnet on Sunday 29 January 12 15:48 GMT (UK)
The crown on the collar may be a red herring...At this time, rank was worn there....ergo a major...
Title: Re: help identifying regiment?
Post by: apwright on Sunday 29 January 12 17:39 GMT (UK)
Either he's got a weird fold in his right sleeve or he's wearing a WO's badge...

I note the image file is called ...posswillllshaw. Are all those extra Ls his middle initials?
If so, then FindMyPast has 19 pages of service records for one William Leonard Langdon Shaw of Chelmsford (later Dublin).
Attested in 1877 in the Army Service Corps (Ordnance Store Branch) which in 1881 became the Ordnance Store Corps, and in 1896 became the AOC.
He was Staff Sergeant by 1889, Staff Quartermaster Sergeant in 1892, and Staff Sergeant Major in 1894. This rank was then redesignated Sub-Conductor on the creation of the AOC in 1896, which he retained until discharged in 1899. He subsequently re-enlisted for a year in 1900, resuming the rank of Sub-Conductor.
Father's name William, wife Mary Meikle, children Lizzie Veronica and Douglas Gordon.
Do the family details match what you know of him?

Adrian
Title: Re: help identifying regiment?
Post by: kylejustin on Monday 30 January 12 08:13 GMT (UK)
hello everyone,

yes i have had william l.l. shaw's army records for a while, his picture recently surfaced, and i thought it might be him. i'm glad my hunch appears to be correct!

kyle