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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: RogJO on Tuesday 24 January 12 16:59 GMT (UK)
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Would be interested in any information on Rev. John McKaeg who arrived in Sydney in 1831, conducted the first recorded Baptist service in Australia and but was soon imprisoned for debt. For example, when was he released from prison and when did he die and where?
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Hi RogJO, Welcome to Rootschat Australia. ;D
It is not only helpful but ultimatly important to give as much information on the person you are looking for. This saves confusion and leads to more accurate information given back to you.
For instance any close relatives with the person on arrival Wife, children, also parents names where possible.
From NSW BDM he did not die in NSW which was the Governing Colony at that time. He may have left and gone back or moved on to possibly New Zealand which came under NSW at that time but has a different set of records altogether.
I am sure if he lived anywhere in Australia others may find out some info on him for you.
Neil
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Hi RogJO
Have you tried Trove. which is a site from the National Library of Australia with digitised newspapers.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper
There is the death of a John McKaeg there in the 23 December 1851 edition of the Sydney Morning Herald. Also many other references to him.
"DIED. On Monday, the 22nd instant, at 524, George-street, Mr. John McKaeg, aged 62
years."
Best of luck in researching
Jean
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And here he is on the NSW BDM:
V1851328 102/1851
MC KAEG JOHN
AGE 62
Someone may be able to look this up for you. It should be only the burial with no parents or spouse unfortunately.
Perhaps the Probate Index may provide some more detail.
Jean
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hi
From AGCI John McKaeg Death 22 Dec 1854 (?) Sydney Sandhills.
Presbyterian Cemetery Transcript
Muss
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Hi
In the book "Sydney Burial Ground 1819-1901" written by Johnson & Sainty.
it records that a headstone for John McKaeg Inscription
Died 22nd December 1854 Aged 62 years
as moved to Bunnerong (now called Botany or Eastern Suburbs Cemetery), the headstone is described in 1969 at being Upright and in Good condition.
Botany had a "clean up " in the 1980-90's and the majority of these old headstones where lost :'(
Cass
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Hi,
A small snippet from 1st September 1887 Truth and Progress page 133.
Under HISTORY OF THE BAPTIST DENOMINATION OF NEW SOUTH WALES there is a brief mention.
A congregation met at Hart's buildings before 1832 and was administered by the Rev J. McKaeg.
He resigned and was replaced by the Rev John Saunder who arrived on December 1st 1834.
Regards
Gerry
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Hi there,
This link gives you the Wiki entry for the Baptist Union of Australia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptist_Union_of_Australia
There are live links to various state based bodies, and to this site about the history of Baptists in Australia . http://www.bwa-baptist-heritage.org/bua-sum.htm
ADDING .... Oops I forgot to load this one too http://www.bwa-baptist-heritage.org/hc-oznsw.htm
Cheers, JM
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Hi there,
From the info in the history info from the link in my earlier post (reply # 7)
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/32075351 Sydney Monitor 27 April 1831
And some thoughts
Re his imprisonment in NSW for debts etc.... Do you know when he was tried, what was the sentence handed down, etc. On many/most of the archival material for that era, the name of the ship of arrival should be included, not just on those transported to NSW under sentence, but also those who came free. This could be a vital clue in searching for any NSW colonial sentence for him, as the ship of arrival should be on his papers.
http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/
Cheers, JM
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I have just completed a biography of Rev John McKaeg for the NSW Baptist Historical Society. You're welcome to contact me at (*) if you like.
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Here is a little biog for him in context of baptist ministry
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article16768426
There are various other mentions of him on trove - some of these are http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?sortby=dateAsc&q=mckaeg&s=20
regards,
Ros
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Thanks for that. However, a few things:
1. Packer (author of the article) is generally very good but with the excellent resources we have today, it's a lot easier and often more reliable to do research than it was in 1931.
2. Johnson and Sainty's book is incorrect. McKaeg died in 1851. The pre-1856 NSW church records show the accurate details.
3. New Zealand was never part of NSW, even in the early days. Victoria and Queensland appear in NSW records until their own dates of Separation, but never NZ.
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]Many thanks.
I have now read all the Trove material relating to McKaeg and written an article on McKaeg, mainly concerning his ministry at Bingley Baptist Church, England, where he was involved in no less than four court cases!
Roger
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Hi, BAJC should read more and publish less :-*
From NZ Site.
http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/nation-and-government/2
Well worth a read how NZ initially was handed to NSW. Then formed its own Government a year later!
New Zealand as a colonyIn 1840 Britain made New Zealand initially a dependency of New South Wales, and at the end of that year it became a separate colony. As a colony, it adopted institutions of government and political practices from the ‘mother country’.
Possibly a few other mistakes?
Neil
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Sure, but not in terms of BDMs. New Zealand had its own registration system going from 1 January 1840.
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Hmm, Actually this is what I said.
"to possibly New Zealand which came under NSW at that time but has a different set of records altogether."
Not important really, I just beg to differ.
Neil ;D