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Title: Emigration from Ireland to Australia - McMENAMIN
Post by: maxene on Tuesday 24 January 12 11:22 GMT (UK)
Hi. Can anyone help me find the immigration record for any of the McMenamin family: Parents John and Catherine (or Kathleen) and children Joseph, Mary, Annie, Margaret? The family left Pennsylvania USA to return to Donegal in 1911 but then migrated to Australia (between 1911 and 1930). I am not certain if the whole family came to Australia or just some of the children. John was born  in Ireland in 1882, Catherine (maiden name unknown) was born in Ireland in 1881. The four children were born in USA, Joseph in C1903, Mary in C1906, Annie in C1908 and Margaret in 1910. Another child, James, was born in C1816 but I do not know if it was in Donegal or Australia). Even if someone could point me in the right direction I would be grateful.  :) Thanks, Maxell
Title: Re: Emigration from Ireland to Australia - McMENAMIN
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 24 January 12 12:16 GMT (UK)
There's a Mary McMenamin born America in 1911 census in Co. Donegal but the details don't fit- perhaps the family arrived back in Ireland after the census was taken (2 Apr.1911)-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Altnapaste/Aghaveagh/507080/

Title: Re: Emigration from Ireland to Australia - McMENAMIN
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 24 January 12 12:40 GMT (UK)
Yes, just missed 1911 Irish census- "Furnessia" arrioved Glasgow 16 May 1911 from New York: John McMenamin (occupation stonecutter), and Mary (wife?), Joseph, Mary, Annie, Margaret disembarked at Londonderry.

Wife called Mary not Catherine so will re-do some earlier searches to see if I found them but discounted because I was looking for Catherine not Mary.
Title: Re: Emigration from Ireland to Australia - McMENAMIN
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 24 January 12 12:52 GMT (UK)
1910 U.S. Census- 173 Simpson Rd., Lower Merion, Montgomery Co., Pennsylvania:
John McMenamin, 28, Ireland, to US 1891, blacksmith; wife Catherine McMenamin, 29, m.8 yrs., 4 children/4 living, to US 1894. Children: Joseph A. McMenamin, 7, Penn.; Mary McMenamin, 4, Penn.; Annie McMenamin, 2, Penn.; Margaret McMenamin, 2/12, Penn. Also brother-in-law Lewis Quinn, 50, single, Ireland, plasterer.
Title: Re: Emigration from Ireland to Australia - McMENAMIN
Post by: joemc on Tuesday 24 January 12 13:36 GMT (UK)
Hi, Using the family search site, John McMenimin married Catherine Dugan in 1902 taken from Pennsylvania, Philadelphia Marriage Indexes, 1885-1951

Regards

Joe



Title: Re: Emigration from Ireland to Australia - McMENAMIN
Post by: Ruskie on Tuesday 24 January 12 13:56 GMT (UK)
Do you know whereabouts in Australia they went? You may find their arrival into Australia, but because each state keeps it's own records it helps to know where they were likely to have arrived. (maybe post this question on the Australia board?)
Title: Re: Emigration from Ireland to Australia - McMENAMIN
Post by: joemc on Tuesday 24 January 12 15:31 GMT (UK)
Hi, just noticed the last part of your post, a James McMenimin was born 1912 birth registered Killeter, Tyrone, Ireland father John McMenimin, mother Catherine Dugan. They had no other children registered after this date so it looks like they probably immigrated sometime after James birth

Regards

(Also if you do a parent search in the family search site looks like John and catherine  they may have had another couple of children born in Philadelphia who died in infancy)
 
Title: Re: Emigration from Ireland to Australia - McMENAMIN
Post by: maxene on Tuesday 24 January 12 21:45 GMT (UK)
To aghadowey  :), joemc  :) and Ruskie  :) - thank you for all your clever research. I found the 1910 US census so I knew they were still in Penn. at that time. I did not know that Lewis Quinn was the brother-in-law...interesting!! The James you found, born in 1912 is obviously the correct one - he died in Aust in an accident in 1941 and his age was listed as 25 years; I have come to realise that people often fudged their ages (still do I guess). As to why John's wife was listed as Mary - who knows; her name became known as Kathleen in the family, even though she was born Catherine- maybe Catherine Mary?? I am guessing the family came to NSW Australia, but I will check both NSW and Victoria Govt. records and see what I can find. I will post results.
As usual, you guys rock. Thanks a lot!!!!Maxell
Title: Re: Emigration from Ireland to Australia - McMENAMIN
Post by: maxene on Thursday 26 January 12 11:54 GMT (UK)
Hi. I have found A Joseph Aloysius McMenamin who arrived in Australia on the "Orsova" from London in 1928. The age is out by two years but it has possibilities. I'll keep searching. Maxell
Title: Re: Emigration from Ireland to Australia - McMENAMIN
Post by: Billyblue on Thursday 26 January 12 11:58 GMT (UK)
Look in Brisbane too.  I'll PM you

 
Dawn M
Title: Re: Emigration from Ireland to Australia - McMENAMIN
Post by: maxene on Thursday 26 January 12 23:12 GMT (UK)
Thanks Dawn -
I am pretty sure the ones I am chasing settled in Sydney and surrounding areas but I will follow up the Qld link - there could be a connection.
Cheers,  :) Maxene
Title: Re: Emigration from Ireland to Australia - McMENAMIN
Post by: moonbeam1959 on Thursday 02 January 14 10:44 GMT (UK)
Hello Maxell,

John McMenamin and Catharine Dugan were my great grandparents; Mary McMenamin my grandmother. I can provide details about what happened to the family, but can I ask what your relationship is with the family?

Regards

Monic
Sydney, Australia

Title: Re: Emigration from Ireland to Australia - McMENAMIN
Post by: SarahMcC on Tuesday 20 October 15 16:33 BST (UK)
Hi Monic

John McMenamin is my grandfather! After John's first wife passed away, he remarried and had four children: Sadie, John, Charlie and Micheal. All grew  up in Aghyaran, Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland.

Micheal (the youngest of John's second family) is my father.

I have a lot of family history info that I can share, if you want to pm me

Thanks
Sarah
Title: Re: Emigration from Ireland to Australia - McMENAMIN
Post by: joannb63 on Wednesday 09 December 15 11:15 GMT (UK)
Hi Monic, Sarah & Maxwell,
I believe that you are talking about a section of my family research - McMenamins from Crighdenis Killeter also Aghyaran). One of John McM & 'Bridget' Duggans nephews (who is still alive at the ripe old age of 100) seemed to think 'Bridget' as he called her may have come from the Churchill area. He called her Bridget but he may have been confusing her with Johns mother Bridget.
I have some info i was able to collect from Charlie but there are a lot of holes too…would love to make contact to compare notes.
Regards
Jo
Title: Re: Emigration from Ireland to Australia - McMENAMIN
Post by: moonbeam1959 on Wednesday 09 December 15 22:04 GMT (UK)
Hi Sarah,

Apologies for the tardy reply. I'm not so familiar with this forum and messaging!

My husband and I met Sadie and some of her family in 2013 when we were travelling in Ireland - it was wonderful to meet her, and I wish we had been there longer in order to meet other family members. My mum (who died in 2004) visited Sadie years ago, and burst into tears on meeting her, as Sadie was the spitting image of her mum, Mary Bridget.

Frank drove us to Aghyaran to visit the grave of John McMenamin and your grandmother, Catherine, which was very kind of him. However, I do feel there is a bit of a void of information for us, and would be very grateful for any information you could provide. We are hoping to travel to Ireland again in 2018, and it would be wonderful to go with a bit more knowledge of the family ties.

Look forward to hearing from you!

Monica
Title: Re: Emigration from Ireland to Australia - McMENAMIN
Post by: joannb63 on Thursday 10 December 15 09:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Monica,

Our McM line has a reunion every 5 years in Cloghan (where we started), the let one was 2013 and the next one is July 2018….your most welcome to come…. at least one member of your line will be there.
Cheers
Jo
Title: Re: Emigration from Ireland to Australia - McMENAMIN
Post by: SarahMcC on Tuesday 19 January 16 20:48 GMT (UK)
Hi Monica

Great to received your reply to my earlier post. A belated Happy New Year to you all.

We would love to host you when you are next in Ireland. I'm sure we will be in touch lots before then to develop the family tree!

Do you have an email address? I can send you a few photos etc.

Take care
Sarah xx