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Title: TREMBATH, henry - Census
Post by: grannys42 on Tuesday 24 January 12 02:15 GMT (UK)
Hi
Iam looking for the Trembath family from Penzance.  Can anyone help me with any information please.  They are,
TREMBATH, Henry b???
  "        "   , Jane wife, b?????
  "        "   , William Henry b 1853 Penzance, Cornwall.
I am interested in anything about the family as this is all the info that I have.
Thanking you for your help
Grannys42
Title: Re: TREMBATH, henry - Census
Post by: gortonboy on Tuesday 24 January 12 05:33 GMT (UK)
hi,,,what are the sources for the names you have?  ;) 
Title: Re: TREMBATH, henry - Census
Post by: grannys42 on Tuesday 24 January 12 08:09 GMT (UK)
Thanks for your prompt reply.  On His death certificate it states, Father Henry Trembath, mothe Jane Jeffreys. He died in Australia in 1909.
Thanks.
Grannys42
Title: Re: TREMBATH, henry - Census
Post by: KGarrad on Tuesday 24 January 12 08:23 GMT (UK)
Had a look at Cornwall-opc-database, baptisms 1840-1860.

Can't see a William Henry (or William) born to Henry and Jane?
Total of 39 William Trembath's in that time period.

Also looked at marriages on the same database - just can't see a Henry Trembath marrying a Jane Jeffrys?
Title: Re: TREMBATH, henry - Census
Post by: DEV9 on Tuesday 24 January 12 08:28 GMT (UK)
For a start I think it might be them on the Ancestry 1841 cencus both 55 years of age in the parish of Madron Penwith :D completed
Title: Re: TREMBATH, henry - Census
Post by: grannys42 on Tuesday 24 January 12 10:04 GMT (UK)
I'm at a loss.  I know death certificates are very unreliable and I can't even find his marriage registration, so I guess that I'm stumped.  Don't know where to go from here.
Yhanks for your help.  ???
Title: Re: TREMBATH, henry - Census
Post by: grannys42 on Tuesday 24 January 12 10:35 GMT (UK)
Hi Everyone, I've just had a breakthrough.  Found a marriage for Henry and Elizabeth Jane Jeffery in Sep 1860 and a birth for William Henry in Dec 1861.  This could be them, I hope.
Grannys42 ;D
Title: Re: TREMBATH, henry - Census
Post by: KGarrad on Tuesday 24 January 12 11:27 GMT (UK)
Hmmm! Date of birth a bit out from 1853!! ;D

From cornwall-opc-database:

Baptism, 2 Feb 1861, Zennor
Trembath, WIlliam Henry

son of Henry & Elizabeth Jane of Treen, Miner


and

Marriage 29 Sept 1860 St Levan
Henry Trembath, full age, of Madron, Miner     to
Elizabeth Jane Jeffrey, 19, of st Levan

Fathers: William Trembath, Farmer and William Jeffrey, Farmer
Witnesses: John Trembath and William Jeffrey
Title: Re: TREMBATH, henry - Census
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 24 January 12 11:46 GMT (UK)
1861 Census
Village of Treen,
Zennor, Cornwall
RG9/1590/134/3
William TRENBATH, 64, Head, Mar, Farmer of 16 Acres, born Madron
Margret, 58, Wife, Mar, born St Just
John, 30, Son, Unm, Tin Miner, born Sacred
Henry, 23, Son, Mar, Tin Miner, born Madron
Eliza Jane, 19, Sons Wife, Mar, Tin Miners Wife, born St Leven
WILLIAM HENRY, 3mths, Grandson, born Sancreed
Humphry, 20, Son, Unm, Tin Miner, born Madron
Agnes, 18, Daug, Unm, Farmers Daughter, born Sancred

Trish :)
Title: Re: TREMBATH, henry - Census
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 24 January 12 12:03 GMT (UK)
I will go back with the Family and then follow Henry/Jane forward.

1851 Census
Cottage,
Madron, Cornwall
HO107/1918/466/25
Wm TREMBATH, 52, Miner and Labourer
Margaret, 48
Wm, 23, Son, Miner
John, 20, Son, Miner
Richd, 18, Son, Miner
James, 15, Son, Miner
HENRY, 12, Son, Farm Servant
Humphry, 10, Son, Scholar
Agnes, 8, Daug, Scholar

1841 Census
Madron, Cornwall
HO107/143/6/Madron
Wm TREMBATH, 40, Miner
Margt, 36
Willm, 14
Jane, 12
John, 10
Richard, 8
James, 6
HENRY, 3
Humphry, 1
All born in County
Title: Re: TREMBATH, henry - Census
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 24 January 12 12:14 GMT (UK)
1871 Census
Trevear, Cornwall
RG10/2343/9/10
Henry TREMBATH, 33, Head, Mar, Miner, born Madron
Jane, 29, Wife, Mar, born St Levan
Willia H, 10, Son
Elizth J, 8, Daug
John, 6, Son
Humphrey, 4, Son
Mary A, 2, Daug
Agnes, 2mths, Daug
Brother James and Family are living next door, he is a Miner/Farmer
Title: Re: TREMBATH, henry - Census
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 24 January 12 13:03 GMT (UK)
The IGI has a Submitted Record of William TREMBATH Marrying Margaret OATS 12 Nov 1825, Sancreed, Cornwall
Cornwall OPC confirms this and you can check it to get Witnesses names.

Now interestingly it looks like Henry was not the only one to leave England;
New York Marriages on Familysearch.Org;
25 August 1868, Manhattan, New York, New York
JOHN Trembath, Father William TREMBATH, Mother Margaret OATS
Emily ROWE, Father William ROWE, Mother Rachel JAMES

By 1871 WILLIAM Trembath had died and MARGARET is with her Son Richard and Family in Madron.

WILLIAM Was Buried 08 Dec 1869, Madron, no age given on Cornwall OPC. But on FreeBMD the corresponding Death Reg, Dec1869 has him age 73

MARGARET was Buried 08 Dec 1878, Age 74 in Madron (Cornwall OPC)
Title: Re: TREMBATH, henry - Census
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 24 January 12 13:55 GMT (UK)
I had trouble locating Eliza Jane in the 1851 Census where she should appear with her Parents.- so looked for a Sibling;

ELIZABETH JANE Jeffrey baptised 06 March 1942, Levan St
Parents WILLIAM, Occp Labourer, and ELIZABETH, Abode Roskestle
Sibling;
ALFRED Jeffrey baptised 18 Aug 1844, Levan St, Williams Occp is now Farmer, Abode Trew.
(this one probably died as there is another baptised 1847)

1851 Census
St Levan, Cornwall
HO107/1919/471/7
William JEFFERY, 37, Head, Mar, Dairyman
Elizabeth, 38, Wife, Mar
John, 10, Son, Scholar
ELIZABETH J, 9, Daug, Scholar
Alfred, 4, Son
Mary A, 1, Daug
Edwin, Son, under 1mth
Martha A S ROGERS, 17, Servant, Unm, House Servant
All down as born St Levan

1861 at home are;
William Thomas, 22, c1839 (dont know here he was in 1851 yet)
Alfred, 14
Mary Ann, 11
Edwin, 10
+ 1 new Child Arthur age 7

1841 Census we have;
William JEFFERY, 25
Elizabeth, 25
Willm, 3*
John, 1

Ah thanks to William John appearing in 1861 Census we now have William c 1814's Parents!

1851 Census
St Levan,Cornwall
HO107/1919/461/16
John JEFFERY, 74, Head, Mar, Farmer of 22 Acres, born St Levan
Elizabeth, 62, Wife, Mar, born St Just
John, 40, Son, Unm, Ag Lab, born St Levan
WILLIAM, 12, Grandson, Ag Lab, born St Levan
Ambrose, 6, Grandson, born St Levan
+ 1 Servant

*** Ambrose is another Son of William/Elizabeth, baptism on Cornwall OPC under Jeffry

1871 he is with Mother Elizth, Dairywoman, now Widowed and Siblings Alfred/Mary Ann/ Edwin/Arthur

Possible Marriage FreeBMD
William JEFFERY, Dec 1838, Redruth, 9 326
On the same page is Elizabeth WALES

William JEFFRY was baptised 29 Aug 1813, St Levan to JOHN/ELIZABETH (Cornwall OPC)

Trish :)
Title: Re: TREMBATH, henry - Census
Post by: grannys42 on Wednesday 25 January 12 01:23 GMT (UK)
That has certainly given me something to look at.  I think that this is my family.  The problem with Australian death registration is that they don't stipulate the age of the deceased.  I try not to have to get too many certificates as this ends up very expensive.  Thank you all for your perserverence with my request.
Regards to all. Grannys42. 
PS It's raining cats and dogs here in Queensland, so I have all day to play with this.  ;D