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Title: national school records 1860-1880
Post by: tomahern on Sunday 22 January 12 12:14 GMT (UK)
Hi,
I am looking for national school records for Ballyhack and Fethard areas of County Wexford for the period 1860-1880. I am not sure if they were classed as National schools during the period in question.
They may have have been administered by Church authorities at the time.
If anyone knows if such records exist and where they are located, I would be most grateful to hear from you.
Sincerely,  Tom Ahern
Title: Re: national school records 1860-1880
Post by: shanew147 on Sunday 22 January 12 14:34 GMT (UK)
In Slater's 1870 there are four schools listed under the section for Fethard (on-sea). This section of the directory also covers Arthurstown/King's Bay, Ballyhack, Duncannon and Saltmills.
 
  Church Educational Society's School, Arthurstown
      Edward Meredith, master
  National School, Ballyhack
      Mary McCabe, mistress
  National School, Duncannon
      Manin Roache, master, Mary Dowling mistress
  Parochial School, Duncannon
      Margaret McKergin, mistress

I think the National Archives may have some National School records.


Shane
Title: Re: national school records 1860-1880
Post by: tomahern on Sunday 22 January 12 15:58 GMT (UK)
Hi Shane,
Many thanks for that information. i will check it out and see where it leads me to .
Best regards,
Tom.
Title: Re: national school records 1860-1880
Post by: annclare on Sunday 22 January 12 17:59 GMT (UK)
Tom
The National archives has only a few Wexford NS registers and none in the area you are interested. Have you tried the County Library - in some counties the libraries have the registers.
annclare
Title: Re: national school records 1860-1880
Post by: tomahern on Sunday 22 January 12 18:24 GMT (UK)
AnnClare,
Hi, I have already been on the National Archives website and it would appear that they have no records for national schools. I have however emailed them and and asked if it would be worth my while calling there. I live in Cheshire England now but I am going to Dublin for a few days at end of February and could combine this with a visit to the archives.
I will do as you suggest and get in touch with Wexford county Library ref the national schools.
Unfortunately they closed the Heritage centre in Tagoat but the Wexford library have told me that the records from Tagoat are being processed and will eventually be available online at the IFHS site. No idea just when that will happen.
Best regards,
Tom.
Title: Re: national school records 1860-1880
Post by: eadaoin on Sunday 22 January 12 19:53 GMT (UK)
the National Archive do have the records of Teachers and Monitors
 - they have to be ordered  in advance, as they're kept in the Four Courts (or were)

eadaoin
Title: Re: national school records 1860-1880
Post by: annclare on Sunday 22 January 12 20:19 GMT (UK)
Don't know if this link will work if not use National Education in Archives search box and scroll down to the 2 PDF's for school registers.
You don't have to order the registers in advance as far as I know.

http://www.nationalarchives.ie/PDF/RollRegDeptEducation.pdf

annclare
Title: Re: national school records 1860-1880
Post by: annclare on Sunday 22 January 12 20:20 GMT (UK)
Think the link is working so here is the 2nd list.

annclare
Title: Re: national school records 1860-1880
Post by: annclare on Sunday 22 January 12 20:21 GMT (UK)
Oops
Forgot Link a craft moment.
http://www.nationalarchives.ie/PDF/RollRegPrivateAccession.pdf

annclare
Title: Re: national school records 1860-1880
Post by: tomahern on Monday 23 January 12 12:05 GMT (UK)
Hi AnnClare,
Tried the link to the Nat Archives and got the private accession lists for the N.S.
However only two schools listed for Wexford...Inch and Ballymore. unfortunately not the ones that I was looking for. many thanks for that.
Tom
Title: Re: national school records 1860-1880
Post by: Wexrose on Wednesday 21 March 12 11:08 GMT (UK)
I know that the Ballyhack National Registers are in the school itself, as i remember seeing them as a child when i attended the school. Don't know if you can see them but why not give them a call and they can let you know.  I do remember them being very old, the old school closed in the mid-late fifties.

The Fethard register could be with Poulfur NS or you could give the Poulfur Parish office a ring and they could find out for you.

Don't know if that helps you in your search.
Title: Re: national school records 1860-1880
Post by: tomahern on Thursday 22 March 12 07:37 GMT (UK)
Thanks Wexrose for that information. i will give the school at Ballyhack a ring.
I have been to Poulfur Parish Office already this past year and I know the secretary there.
I uncovered a lot of family information from their BMD records. The old parish books are in very good condition and some records are 200 yrs old. It never occurred to me to ask if they had any school records whilst I was there. I will email them and ask now.
Thanks again,
Tom.
Title: Re: national school records 1860-1880
Post by: tomahern on Thursday 22 March 12 08:30 GMT (UK)
Hi Wexrose,
I looked up Ballyhack N.S.on the internet.
It was not built until 1894 and there is no mention of a school there before that date.
As I am looking for period 1860-1880, I will have to spread my search further and see if there were any schools nearby to Ballyhack at that time. I have emailed Poulfur parish and await a reply.
Thanks again,
Tom.
Title: Re: national school records 1860-1880
Post by: shanew147 on Thursday 22 March 12 08:44 GMT (UK)
There's a National School listed in Ballyhack in Slaters directory of 1870 - Mary McCabe, mistress.


Shane
Title: Re: national school records 1860-1880
Post by: tomahern on Thursday 22 March 12 08:46 GMT (UK)
Hi Shane,
Thanks for that information. It gives me somewhere else to look.
Regards,
Tom.
Title: Re: national school records 1860-1880
Post by: Wexrose on Thursday 22 March 12 14:26 GMT (UK)
Also a lot of children of the parish went to duncannon and ramsgrange too.

at this present time there is 3 schools in the parish of st james, ballyhack, ramsgrange and sheilbaggan.
Title: Re: national school records 1860-1880
Post by: tomahern on Thursday 22 March 12 17:37 GMT (UK)
Hi Wexrose,
I have already been to St James Church at ramsgrange and viewed the BMD record books.
I did not find the name that I was searching for in any record. I will look into the other two however as one of those could hold what i seek.
Thanks again,
Tom.