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Title: Grimmer Marriage 1880 Sheffield
Post by: Syl M on Thursday 19 January 12 20:45 GMT (UK)
Can somebody please help? I am trying to find the maiden name of my Great Grandmother. She was married in 1880 to Robert Grimmer in Sheffield I can find him on the records 9c 607  and I know that her name is Theressa but cannot find one that corresponds. 
Title: Re: Grimmer Marriage 1880 Sheffield
Post by: KGarrad on Thursday 19 January 12 21:04 GMT (UK)
There are 2 Theresa's marrying in December qtr 1880, in Sheffield (the same as Robert Grimmer).

Theresa Emily W Bell
Theresa Ledger

Theresa Bell seems to be indexed OK.

Theresa Ledger, the page number is very hard to read from the index page.
So I reckon this is the one.

The only way to be certain is to purchase either the marriage certificate (and so see her father's name) or the birth certificate of any of her children (to see her maiden name).
Title: Re: Grimmer Marriage 1880 Sheffield
Post by: Priscilla on Thursday 19 January 12 21:11 GMT (UK)
FreeBMD has the following listed:

Marriages
December 1880
Allen Tresa (sic)
Chambers Anne Elizabeth
Grimmer Robert Ladle
Schofield George William
All Sheffield - Vol 9c - Page 607

So it looks as though Robert Ladle GRIMMER married Tresa ALLEN.


Title: Re: Grimmer Marriage 1880 Sheffield
Post by: KGarrad on Thursday 19 January 12 21:17 GMT (UK)
Oh! Good spot!! ;D

I was looking for Theresa?!
Title: Re: Grimmer Marriage 1880 Sheffield
Post by: Priscilla on Thursday 19 January 12 21:35 GMT (UK)
1881 Census have them listed:
Grimmer Robert - Head - Married - Male - Age 22 - Born: West Rudham, Norfolk - Occupation: Railway Signalman
Grimmer Teresa - Wife - Married - Female - Age 26 - Born: Sheffield, York - Occupation: Dressmaker
Address: 6 John Street, Kimberworthy, York.

They appear on the 1901 and 1911 Census - pay to view sites though :-[
Title: Re: Grimmer Marriage 1880 Sheffield
Post by: Priscilla on Thursday 19 January 12 22:14 GMT (UK)
Access the website FreeCEN - it is a free website.

In 1861 Census listed is a Robert Grimmer aged 3 with parents George and Hannah and brothers John 9 and James 6.

In 1871 Census Robert's father is listed as a Widower and his mother-in-law Mrs LADEL (sic) is housekeeper to all the family.

On FreeBMD there is this death listed:
Dec 1867
GRIMMER Hannah - Age 46 - Norwich - Vol 4b - Page 96.

Added!
FreeBMD
Possible birth for teresa
Sept 1854
ALLEN Teresa - Sheffield - Vol 9c - Page 313

On FreeCEN
1861 Census there is listed
LADLE Edward H - Head - Married - Male - Age 68 - Occupation: Ag Lab - Born: Gt Massingham, Norfolk
LADLE Mary - Wife -Married - Age 60 - Occupation: Wash Woman - Born: Ingoldisthorpe, Norfolk
Living at Docking, Norfolk

On FamilySearch.org the following are listed:
LADLE John - Bap: 5.2.1786
LADLE William - Bap: 24.8.1788
LADLE Elizabeth - Bap: 25.11.1790
LADLE Edw'D - Bap: 19.3.1794
All at Little Massingham
Father: Thomas LADLE and Mother: Elizabeth RUDD

Hope you find this information helpful.


Title: Re: Grimmer Marriage 1880 Sheffield
Post by: Syl M on Friday 20 January 12 14:23 GMT (UK)
Thank you all that's brilliant. I have just put a new ancestry programme on my PC and I think that I have been overdoing it.  :D  I had spent that long looking that I couldn't see the wood for the trees.  I have seen that many different records with Teresa spelt many ways.   Teresa Allen seems to be the right one though thanks once again he was Robert Ladle Grimmer as my Grandmother was Ladle grimmer.  I always used to think she had a funny name.

Sylvia.
Title: Re: Grimmer Marriage 1880 Sheffield
Post by: Syl M on Friday 20 January 12 15:48 GMT (UK)
I have just been looking at the original 1871 census and Mary Ladel is Robert 's  Father's  Mother  not mother in law .  I suspect that she must have been married twice hence the name Ladel Grimmer  or perhaps just living with his Father and not even married.     On the transcript is says Mrs Sadel so I didn't take much notice then again it says  Gummer not Grimmer so just goes to prove a closer inspection is needed to all records. 
Title: Re: Grimmer Marriage 1880 Sheffield
Post by: penstemon5 on Sunday 21 September 14 10:35 BST (UK)
Hello,
I just found this thread and I am researching the Grimmer family for my friend. His great great grandfather was Robert Ladle Grimmer.
i am stuck with finding the marriage details for Robert's grandfather William who married Dianah ??
Their first child was Anne (born about 1830)  and then John, Elizabeth, Robert  (Robert Ladle's father),George, Mary and William.
I think William Grimmer and Diana spent their whole lives in West Rudham, as William died there in 1878.
Any can help with William's marriage would be appreciated.
Thanks
Title: Re: Grimmer Marriage 1880 Sheffield
Post by: Syl M on Sunday 21 September 14 18:04 BST (UK)
I have replied to this but for some reason it keeps saying that I am timed out so here goes again.
Pallots marriage index 1780-1837
William Grimmer
Dianah Drew
Married 13th March 1827.


http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=pallotm&h=692121&ti=5538&indiv=try&gss=pt&ssrc=pt_t34873835_p18717949071_kpidz0q3d18717949071z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgplz0q3dpid
Title: Re: Grimmer Marriage 1880 Sheffield
Post by: Syl M on Sunday 21 September 14 18:53 BST (UK)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=419099.msg2845597#msg2845597

Hope this link works for you.  It is at Locke park Barnsley the chap with the beard is Robert Ladle Grimmer my G grandfather. The boy at the side of him is my dad  Robert lived near the park at this time and both him and Teresa are buried in Barnsley.I think this would be around the time of his wife's death as it also has my aunty and my paternal grandad and a cousin of dads on it. Robert L Grimmer was my grandmother's father.
Title: Re: Grimmer Marriage 1880 Sheffield
Post by: penstemon5 on Sunday 21 September 14 22:39 BST (UK)
Hello,
Thanks for the information. I have never heard of Pallot's Marriage Index. ..a great find!
Do you have anything on William's father? He was Robert Grimmer, born 1771, married Ann Hunt 9th  July 1793 in All Saints Church, North Barsham and that is all I know. I can't find his parent's names. Does Pallot do a baptism index?!
I found the picture of Robert ladle on a family tree on Ancestry. It is wonderful to see what he looked like.
Did you attach the photo? as couldn't find a link in the message.
Thank you so much for taking the time to hep me.

Title: Re: Grimmer Marriage 1880 Sheffield
Post by: Syl M on Monday 22 September 14 10:23 BST (UK)
You would have got the photo off my family tree in ancestry as it was one my Mum and dad had. I know a few people have copied it and I don't mind as otherwise they would all get lost with time. There is a baptism index on ancestry .  I'm not sure how far I've got with the Grimmer family as I have been concentrating more on my paternal side that was Windle.  The link that I put on is to a photo on this site but is the same one as ancestry a family in Locke park with a fountain.
Sylvia.

Try the link on my post above yours it works for me..
Title: Re: Grimmer Marriage 1880 Sheffield
Post by: penstemon5 on Monday 22 September 14 23:57 BST (UK)
Hi, yes the link works. It's a great photo. Now I'll continue my search for Robert Grimmer Born 1771 and his details.
It's a never ending story!
Thanks for your help.