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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Renfrewshire => Topic started by: Nellie-Bear on Thursday 12 May 05 10:07 BST (UK)
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Hi all i am very new to this so i hope i do ok at this.
I am looking for info on James Muir born 1824, abbey Paisley Scotland. James married a Ann Harrison she was born in 1832 England. James and Ann married in Tasmania (VDL) 1850.
his parents are john muir and mary struthers.
If anyone has any information on any Muirs that came to VDL (Tasmania) via the Isabella in 1833 it would be greatly appreciated. I believe James came out with a Matthew and a Peter leaving Leith in 1832.
Kind Regards
Nellie-Bears
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Hi all i am very new to this so i hope i do ok at this.
I am looking for the parents of James Muir born 20 Oct 1822, Paisley Renfrewshire Scotland. James married a Ann Harrison she was born in 1832 England. James and Ann married in Tasmania (VDL) 1850.
I havent been able to find any information on his parents so if there is anyone that would like to help i would be muchly appreciated.
Kind Regards
Nellie-Bears
James Muir b 27/6/1822
chris at Middle Church Paisley 30/6/1822
father William Muir
mother Mary Dunlop
audrey
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Hi Audrey, can i ask is there any information on siblings there as all i have is that james arrived in (VDL) Tasmania per the Isabella in 1833, with a Mr Matthew Muir or Nathaniel (its hard to read) and a Peter Muir, Both James and Peter were listed as minors and Matthew was of age. I am unsure what relationship James and Peter were to Matthew. I hope that the one you have listed is the correct one as it would solve a 25 year mystery.
Kind Regards
Nellie-Bear
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hear is the rest of William & Marys children all born Paisley
Helen b 27/1/1821
William b 7/11/1823
Robert b 31/12/1824
Mary b 17/11/1826
Mary b 14/6/1828
William b 9/5/1830
Janet b 20/3/1832
George b 28/2/1836
audrey
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Hi Audrey thank you for replying but unfortunately its not the right one:( The only other sibling i know of is a Peter.
Nellie-Bears
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Hi Audrey thank you for replying but unfortunately its not the right one:( The only other sibling i know of is a Peter.
Nellie-Bears
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there were loads of Muir but that was the only James around that date and there was no Petter
audrey
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thank you for looking Audrey hopefully some one can help me.
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I have a connection to a large family of Muirs from Renfrew - one of them Elizabeth (born 1799) married name Miller arrived in Sydney 1834 on the "Othello". I have a list of all her siblings, which include the names James and Matthew (but no Peter). I cannot instantly see a connection, but while looking I found a submitted IGI record for your James parents Matthew Muir and Margaret Stevenson. Could be worth checking the LDS film to find a family connection.
My family of Muirs, in case you can see a connection are
James Muir 1751 married Mary Whyte (White) 1756. Married in 1779 Erskine
Children
Alexander 1780
Thomas 1782
Elizabeth 1784
Janet 1786
James 1788
William 1790
Matthew 1792
John 1794
George 1796
Elizabeth 1799
Trish
They were all born in Erskine or Renfrew, but Elizabeth was married & her Scottish children were born in Paisley, & some of the brothers moved there as well, being mentioned in the diary of the trip to Oz.
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Hi Trish,
I know this is a very silly question. ???
But do you have his death in Australia?
I am presuming you do, and that the informant, didn't know the parents?
I will search in australasia, happily, if this, is not the case.
;)
kenjo
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Hi Kenjo
No question is silly - I have missed so many obvious (after the event) things in my research - but I am a little confused as to who's death you are talking about.
My Elizabeth Muir married Robert Miller and I have a large % of the details of their descendants in Australia. If you have any information on same I would be happy to swap information.
Trish
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Trish,
Silly me! :-[
I meant to post to .
Nellie Bear! ;D
I'LL TRY AGAIN. re James Muir.
I know this is a very silly question.
But do you have his death in Australia?
I am presuming you do, and that the informant, didn't know the parents?
I will search in australasia, happily, if this, is not the case.
kenjo ;)
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the James muir i have died at sea and was registered in New Zealand his wifes death i do have ann harrison died 26th march 1850.
For some reason the james muir i have here was born 20th oct 1822, Now the closest i can get to family such as parents is matthew muir and margaret stevenson but i am not a 100% sure on this.
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i am wondering if anyone here may be able to help with a john muir and mary struthers.
they are the parents of
francis muir b.1817
john muir 1819
robert muir 1821
francis muir 1823
james muir 1824
alexander muir 1827
peter muir 1830
anne muir 1832
annie muir 1835
joseph muir 1838.
i do not have any dates fot the parents.
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Hi Nellie Bear
Here's the 2nd page of the summary of the Challenge - I told you about
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,62822.15.html
Good Luck!!
Annie
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I have a Frances Muir from Scotland born about 1825. married Elizabeth Lamond.
Moved to Canada.
Son Alexander
Living near by Robert and a James.
Not sure where they came from, the only clue so far has been the Paisley bunch
Marilyn
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I have a Frances Muir from Scotland born about 1825. married Elizabeth Lamond.
Moved to Canada.
Son Alexander
Living near by Robert and a James.
Not sure where they came from, the only clue so far has been the Paisley bunch
Marilyn
MUIR, Francis Christening
Gender:
Birth Date: 19 Sep 1803
Christening Date: 2 Oct 1803 Recorded in: Paisley, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Collection: Middle Church
Father: Robert MUIR
Mother: Mary BUCHANAN
MUIR, Francis Christening
Gender:
Birth Date: 8 Mar 1817
Christening Date: 19 Apr 1817 Recorded in: Eaglesham, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Father: John MUIR
Mother: Mary STRUTHERS
this is the ony two on BVRI
audrey
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Thank you Audrey
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Hi there this is the one i have although they did have 2 children by the same name
MUIR, Francis Christening
Gender:
Birth Date: 8 Mar 1817
Christening Date: 19 Apr 1817 Recorded in: Eaglesham, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Father: John MUIR
Mother: Mary STRUTHERS
the other one was born
9 Mar 1823 Abbey (Paisley)
I do not know anything more other than james and peter their brothers moved to tasmania with a matthew muir.
Do you have any other info that would help narrow this down.
nellie
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I just ran across this chat room and don't know a thing about researching my family but thought I would ask anyway. My name is James Muir and my father William said our family goes back to Paisley. Does anyone know if the Muir's they are researching ended up in New Jersey, USA. I know my father was born around 1931 or 32 in New Jersey. I have always been interested in my family tree but never knew where to start. I hope someone can get me started.
Thanks,
Jim
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I just ran across this chat room and don't know a thing about researching my family but thought I would ask anyway. My name is James Muir and my father William said our family goes back to Paisley. Does anyone know if the Muir's they are researching ended up in New Jersey, USA. I know my father was born around 1931 or 32 in New Jersey. I have always been interested in my family tree but never knew where to start. I hope someone can get me started.
Hello Jim
This can become a very addictive hobby. My Paisley Muirs ended up in Australia, but they left many sibling behind in Scotland, one or more of whom could well have ended up in USA. To start checking your family, do you have any details of your grandparents. If your parents/aunts/uncles are still living, a good place to start is asking them questions. If you can post details of your parents/grandparents folks here may be able to help you track them further.
Trish
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I just ran across this chat room and don't know a thing about researching my family but thought I would ask anyway. My name is James Muir and my father William said our family goes back to Paisley. Does anyone know if the Muir's they are researching ended up in New Jersey, USA. I know my father was born around 1931 or 32 in New Jersey. I have always been interested in my family tree but never knew where to start. I hope someone can get me started.
Hello Jim
This can become a very addictive hobby. My Paisley Muirs ended up in Australia, but they left many sibling behind in Scotland, one or more of whom could well have ended up in USA. To start checking your family, do you have any details of your grandparents. If your parents/aunts/uncles are still living, a good place to start is asking them questions. If you can post details of your parents/grandparents folks here may be able to help you track them further.
Trish
Thanks Trish. I will talk to my dad and get some more information on my grandparents on my fathers side. Possibly some info on uncles as well. Once I get that I will post it here.
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I have a journal written by James Muir. it covers a huge period of history and heaps of Muirs from Inchinnan and Paisley. This journal is on my website at www.taggart.co.nz.
I have to go out now, but will go through all the previous messages here and comment on the families I know about.
There is no Peter Muir in the journal!!
regards
Patricia
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Hi Patricia
Welcome to RootsChat and many thanks for your post.
Incredibly interesting - the names look very familiar. You seem to have a James Muir and Mary Whyte about 50 years before my James Muir & Mary Whyte. I will study further & get back to you.
many thanks
Trish
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hear is the rest of William & Marys children all born Paisley
Helen b 27/1/1821
William b 7/11/1823
Robert b 31/12/1824
Mary b 17/11/1826
Mary b 14/6/1828
William b 9/5/1830
Janet b 20/3/1832
George b 28/2/1836
audrey
Also in this family was:
Elizabeth b 3/3/1834 and
Williamina b 17 Mar 1839
William Muir who married Mary Dunlop was the son of James Muir and Mary Whyte.
regards
Patricia
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I have a connection to a large family of Muirs from Renfrew - one of them Elizabeth (born 1799) married name Miller arrived in Sydney 1834 on the "Othello". I have a list of all her siblings, which include the names James and Matthew (but no Peter). I cannot instantly see a connection, but while looking I found a submitted IGI record for your James parents Matthew Muir and Margaret Stevenson. Could be worth checking the LDS film to find a family connection.
My family of Muirs, in case you can see a connection are
James Muir 1751 married Mary Whyte (White) 1756. Married in 1779 Erskine
Children
Alexander 1780
Thomas 1782
Elizabeth 1784
Janet 1786
James 1788
William 1790
Matthew 1792
John 1794
George 1796
Elizabeth 1799
Trish
They were all born in Erskine or Renfrew, but Elizabeth was married & her Scottish children were born in Paisley, & some of the brothers moved there as well, being mentioned in the diary of the trip to Oz.
These are the family of William from my previous message. Trish, I would be interested in how far back you have gone with this family.
Thanks
Patricia
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the James muir i have died at sea and was registered in New Zealand his wifes death i do have ann harrison died 26th march 1850.
For some reason the james muir i have here was born 20th oct 1822, Now the closest i can get to family such as parents is matthew muir and margaret stevenson but i am not a 100% sure on this.
James Muir 20th Oct 1822 was the son of Matthew Muir and Margaret Stevenson. I don't have any record of who he married or what happened to him.
Patricia
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Hi Binti
I'm probably confused - but would you mind confirming for me
Is my Elizabeth Muir (born 1799) the sister of your William Muir (presumably born 1790). Are we 5th or 6th or 7th cousins perhaps?
I have a couple of generations back from Elizabeth - simply via ScotlandsPeople and the IGI. Will let you know.
I have been out today & haven't had a chance to research your journal yet. I have a much smaller journal written by Robert Miller (husband of Elizabeth Muir) on their trip to Australia 1833/34.
Trish
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Did I read the dates incorrectly on your journal? I thought your James Muir and Mary Whyte were much earlier than mine ???
I have parents of James Muir (Baptism 27 January 1750/51 Inchinnan,Renfrew,Scotland) as Alexander Muir and Janet Paterson - married 25 Jul 1742 Inchinnan.
Siblings Matthew 1745, Janet 1748, Mary 1752, Martha 1754.
(No further back - I think there were too many Alexanders ??? )
Parents of Mary Whyte (1756) - Thomas Whyte and Elizabeth Blackwood - married 28 August 1740, Erskine. siblings of Mary - James 1741, William 1744, James 1745, Elizabeth 1748, Janet 1750, John 1753
Parents of Elizabeth Blackwood (1719) were John Blackwood and Janet Petterson married 26 Dec 1718 Erskine. Have found no siblings.
Trish
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Hi Trish
I have Mary Whyte's parents as Thomas Whyte and Jean Erskine m 3 Feb 1750.
How about you go to my website and contact me direct on my email address from there. I think I may have heaps to help you. I dont want to publish my email address on here.
Look forward to hearing from you.
Patricia
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Hi Trish
I have just started looking at the journal again, and I am not sure, but there may have been two Thomas Whytes in the same period.
This need looking into.
Patricia
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Did I read the dates incorrectly on your journal? I thought your James Muir and Mary Whyte were much earlier than mine ???
I have parents of James Muir (Baptism 27 January 1750/51 Inchinnan,Renfrew,Scotland) as Alexander Muir and Janet Paterson - married 25 Jul 1742 Inchinnan.
Siblings Matthew 1745, Janet 1748, Mary 1752, Martha 1754.
(No further back - I think there were too many Alexanders ??? )
Parents of Mary Whyte (1756) - Thomas Whyte and Elizabeth Blackwood - married 28 August 1740, Erskine. siblings of Mary - James 1741, William 1744, James 1745, Elizabeth 1748, Janet 1750, John 1753
Parents of Elizabeth Blackwood (1719) were John Blackwood and Janet Petterson married 26 Dec 1718 Erskine. Have found no siblings.
Trish
Trish did William Whyte 1744 have a daughter Janet who married a Thomas Whyte - Ouch Too Many Thomas Whytes.