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Some Special Interests => Travelling People => Topic started by: Romany Knaves on Saturday 14 January 12 17:58 GMT (UK)
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Trying to make a connection-My Great-Grandfather was Obee Jones 1857 Sussex who married Selina Tomset they had a son called Obed 1880 Sussex,Obee had an older brother Samuel 1853 Sussex who married Sarann "sarah ann" Brazeal "Brazil" they had a son called Oded 1876 Sussex, one of these son's I believe married Phoebe Eastwood. I think it was Samuel's Obed,In the 1970's and 80's I had some friend's who's surname was Boswell the father's first name was George and I recall being told that Boswell was not the father's original surname but it had been changed from Hilden, I also recall that they had a grandfather called Obediah Jones I can not recall the Grandmothers first name but I assume that her maiden name may have been Jones and this may be where the connection is, if there is indeed a connection.I know that the Jones lived along side the Brazil,Lee,Penfold and Ripley family's and that my friends the Boswell's were related to the ripley family buty with surname change's it sometime's become just a maze.
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Obee JONES married Selina TOMSETT q3 1902 MAidstone Kent 2A 1728
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Obed JONES married Phoebe EASTWOOD q3 1915 Gravesend Kent 2a 1950
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My Great-Grandfather was Obee Jones 1857 Sussex who married Selina Tomset 1902 they had a son called Obed 1880 Sussex,Obee
The family of Obed JONES b 1859
My Great-Grandfather was Obee Jones 1857 Sussex who married ?????I think you may need to purchase the birth certificate to confirm the mother
Obed 1881 Heathfield Sussex ( b q1 1880 Hastings 2b 38)
My Great-Grandfather was Obee Jones 1857 Sussex who married Betsy HARRIS q4 1885 Fulham 1a 391 and the following were among the children of the marriage
Tom 1886 Heathfield Sussex
Fanny 1887 Hastings
Augustus 1891 Hastings
Gentilda 1897 Hastings
My Great-Grandfather was Obee Jones 1857 Sussex who married Selina Tomset 1902
The latest census suggests that 'Lena' was b 1861 Maidstone Kent, therefore it is unlikely that there were any children of the 3rd marriage
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thank you. if the following are the following in your tree .celia b1889 heathfield,james b1890 Dover and Ada b1897 orpington,Thomas married Celia ransley who were witnesses to my Grandmother Gusta's marriage to Alfred Knaves.Obed is recorded as a spelling error "ched" 1857 Rye,Sussex.I had always assumed that Betsy and Lina were one and the same person and since all my Grandparents are long gone and my father never spoke of his family as he ran away from caravan it is nice finding new thing's about your history thank you again.
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Strangely enough I have Thomsett and Harris on my mothers side of the family 3x Grand parents Elizabeth Thomsett "all spellings used" and Mercy Harris both in the mid kent area.
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No these are not members of my family, me, just willing to help
Will have a look at your latest vcomments to see if we can sort.....
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The earliest point for my Jones Tree is Samuel Jones birth about 1831 at Catsfield in Sussex who married Sarah Day birth about 1831 at Winchelsea in Sussex the daughter of John Day and Sarah Robert,Samuel and Sarah had these children Henry 1851,Samuel 1853,Martha 1854,Obed 1857,Lousia 1859,Elizebeth 1860,Sarah 1863,Ellen 1866,John 1868,Maria 1873,birth years are only estimated most is put together from the census returns with a few BMD cert's and info from various history sites.
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Not sure what access you have to subscription sites
Baptism
Catsfield Sussex
Samuel son of John & Elizabeth JONES bp 09/09/1827 ( you can view on familysearch.org)
died q2 1897 aged 72 Battle Sussex 2b 35 ( can be viewed on Freebmd.org.uk)
1861 RG9 569 161 13
Black DOwn
JANES ( sic) Samuel 33 broom maker
Sarah 30
Samuel 12 ( he is living with the family in 1911)
Henry 10
MArtha 7
Obea 4
Elizabeth 1
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Baptised same day as Samuel Jones
Elijah JONES son of John & Elizabeth JONES bp 09/09/1827
Baptism
All Heathfield Sussex parents declared as Samuel & Sarah JONES
08/01/1860 Elizabeth
12/12/181862 Sarah
14/05/1865 Eleanor
01/03/1868 John
03/01/1869 William
04/12/1870 Sarah Ann
Marriage
Crowhurst Sussex
07/019/1871
Samuel JONES b 1849 s/o Samuel
Sarah BRAYZIL b 1848 d/o William BRAYZIL
All from familysearch.org
Would suggest you obtain copy of the netry's either from the local Sussex Record Office or from the familysearch centre near to you where you can order the films of the Parish Records and search them your self. look on the tool bar on the opening page of the sitew. Having references such as these are as inportant as the census information. There may have been children born who died between the 10 year census period!
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Thanks Elzabels for your info I have no Access so I use LDS 1&2 various other free sites and great sites like this then try to put 2 & 2 together not always with luck.I had Elijah in my bits & bobs and believe a daughter married a Debroah "Daniel"Carter as for the Thompsett I found on the 1901 a Selina married to a William Thompsett in Sussex her birth given as 1862 Maidstone Kent un sure if it is the same Selina married to Obed on the 1911 Census and back to my Original Question of the Jones/Boswell connection I believe it may be Genty Jones daughter of Sam Jones who married Fanny Lee and that it was a John Boswell,they married 1924 at Bromley,Kent.thank you again for your info it is very much welcomed.
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Have you thought of joining the Romany gypsy sites?
Baptisms & Christenings:
Jones Gentillia17 Mar 1912 H T Milton Gravesend
Jones James 30 Jul 1916 Ash next Ridley
Jones Julia 12 Oct 1913 H T Milton Gravesend
Children of Obed & Phoebe
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Thanks Elzabels for your info I have no Access so I use LDS 1&2 various other free sites and great sites like this then try to put 2 & 2 together not always with luck.I had Elijah in my bits & bobs and believe a daughter married a Debroah "Daniel"Carter as for the Thompsett I found on the 1901 a Selina married to a William Thompsett in Sussex her birth given as 1862 Maidstone Kent un sure if it is the same Selina married to Obed on the 1911 Census and back to my Original Question of the Jones/Boswell connection I believe it may be Genty Jones daughter of Sam Jones who married Fanny Lee and that it was a John Boswell,they married 1924 at Bromley,Kent.thank you again for your info it is very much welcomed.