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Title: Hall Family, Greenwich
Post by: nsc on Saturday 14 January 12 15:43 GMT (UK)
I'm trying to trace a London Family (Greenwich).

Albert Edward Hall was born on May 3rd, 1896 to John Hall and Jessie Imrie. They lived at 3 Dupree Road, Greenwich.

I have a good friend, Virgina (who is French) who wants to trace Albert's sister. Albert was her grandfather.

Eventually, she would like to trace her aunt,  (Albert's daughter) who was born around 1944. In 1963, their address was 31 Northern Road, Camberwell, London. Irene was, she thinks, working as a Primary School teacher at the time.

To confuse matters a little, Virgina's father is also called Albert, (the daughter of the first Albert mentioned is her half sister), though he has never met her. He would like to. Albert is now 87 years old, and obviously, time is precious.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

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Title: Re: Hall Family, Greenwich
Post by: wozzle on Saturday 14 January 12 16:00 GMT (UK)
1901
RG13/407/120/28
jessie hall age 36. b. greenwich. occ. sewing machinist. head(wid)
fred.a.hall age 14. b. ditto. occ. tea packer(grocer). son
maud.a.hall age 12. b. ditto. daughter
jessie.l.hall age 9. b. ditto. daughter
albert.e.hall age 4. b. ditto. son
living at;13,lollard street,lambeth(occupying 2 rooms)
Title: Re: Hall Family, Greenwich
Post by: wozzle on Saturday 14 January 12 16:03 GMT (UK)
so which sister did you wish to follow jessie or maud?
Title: Re: Hall Family, Greenwich
Post by: wozzle on Saturday 14 January 12 16:18 GMT (UK)
full names of the 2 sisters are jessie lilian hall and maud alice hall
jessies birth was regd in lambeth in 4th qtr 1891
mauds birth was regd in lambeth in 1st qtr 1889
Title: Re: Hall Family, Greenwich
Post by: wozzle on Saturday 14 January 12 16:21 GMT (UK)
you say alberts birth was may 3rd 1896
but the birth was regd in apr/may/jun 1897 also in lambeth
Title: Re: Hall Family, Greenwich
Post by: Ladyhawk on Saturday 14 January 12 16:37 GMT (UK)
1901
RG13/407/120/28
jessie hall age 36. b. greenwich. occ. sewing machinist. head(wid)
fred.a.hall age 14. b. ditto. occ. tea packer(grocer). son
maud.a.hall age 12. b. ditto. daughter
jessie.l.hall age 9. b. ditto. daughter
albert.e.hall age 4. b. ditto. son
living at;13,lollard street,lambeth(occupying 2 rooms)

1891 RG12; Piece: 390; Folio 113; Page 35
Israel Hall 33 Russia Steam Engine Fitter
Jessie 27 Pimlico
Fred Archer 4 Southwark
Maud Alice 2 Lambeth

Did Israel change his name to John ? Did Jessie remarry  ???

death entry
Israel Hall age 43 (1858) Jan qtr. 1901 Mile end Old Town London

Albert Edward Hall Born 3rd May bapt 3/6/1896 East Christchurch Greenwich
f John Hall fitter m Jessie abode 3 Dupree Road Charlton

Title: Re: Hall Family, Greenwich
Post by: Ladyhawk on Saturday 14 January 12 17:05 GMT (UK)
Seems his name was Israel John Hall according to Maud's marriage cert.

Maud Alice Hall age 26 occ cook abode 71 Lambeth Road
 father Israel John Hall (dec’d) Engineer 
married St Mary Lambeth 14/8/1915 Percy John Johnson
Title: Re: Hall Family, Greenwich
Post by: nsc on Monday 16 January 12 05:45 GMT (UK)
Amazingly swift responses!!

Thank you very much !!!

nsc
Title: Re: Hall Family, Greenwich
Post by: nsc on Sunday 29 January 12 05:25 GMT (UK)
Virgina has asked me if we can find out if Maud and Percy had any children:

Bonjour Neil !

Merci de me dire comment je peux faire pour savoir si la soeur de mon grand père Maud a eu des enfants ?

Maud s’est mariée à Percy Johnson à St Mary’s Church de Lambeth, le 14 août, 1915.
Elle avait 26 ans, elle travaillait comme cuisinière, et elle habitait à 77 Lambeth Road,
London.

A Bientôt !
Virgina

If this contravenes the privacy policy regarding living persons, please contact me via private message. As I mentioned previously, Virgina's father is now 87 years old and dearly wishes to trace his half-sister.

Any help would be very greatly appreciated.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Hall Family, Greenwich
Post by: Ladyhawk on Sunday 29 January 12 12:33 GMT (UK)
Virgina has asked me if we can find out if Maud and Percy had any children:


difficult to say with any certainty using FreeBMD http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Maud & Percy married 1915 in Lambeth if they stayed in that area there are over 20 Johnson birth entries after Dec  1914 with mother’s maiden name of Hall various registrations districts in London

I couldn’t tell you if any are the children's parents are Maud & Percy Johnson you would need to obtain the certificates

Sometimes children are named after family members ie grandparents, sisters, brothers

Details have been posted for Maud's family on the census, so will see if I can find anything out about Percy John Johnson on the censuses to see if he had any siblings

ADDED


Looking at the list of names on FreeBMD not sure that Percy's family will help  ???

From 1915 marriage Percy father named as Alfred occ Ham & Beef Dealer so this looks as if it’s father & son on 1891c & 1901c

Alfred Johnson 36 Stepney Ham & Beef Shop
Eliza 36 Norfolk
Robert 12 Balham Surrey
Maud 8 “
Edith 6 “
PERCY 4 “
Alfred 16 Suffolk Clerk
Herbert 2 Balham Surrey

1901
  – 494 Kings Road (Ham & Beef Shop)
Alfred 46 Ham & Beef Shopkeeper , Eliza 45 Gt. Yarmouth, Catherine 23 Hampstead, Robert 21, Maud 18, Edith 15, PERCY 14, Herbert 12 & Hanley 8 Woodfreen London

1881
Alfred J 26 Yarmouth Butcher , Eliza 26 Yarmouth, Alfred H Yarmouth 7, Catherine J St Pancras 4, Robert H Balham 2, Herbert P 2 mths Balham 

Title: Re: Hall Family, Greenwich
Post by: nsc on Friday 03 February 12 00:37 GMT (UK)
Thank you, Ladyhawk!

nsc