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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Roxburghshire => Topic started by: morageckford on Friday 13 January 12 22:26 GMT (UK)
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Catherine Sangster, unmarried, had a son in Kelso, Roxburghshire in July 1799. The child was called Lockhart Baillie and the acknowledged father was George Baillie of Jerviswood and Mellerstain, father of the 10th Earl of Haddington. There is plenty of information about him but nothing on Catherine Sangster, which is not a name local to the Kelso area. Her name on Lockhart's death certificate is Catherine Harvey nee Sangster. Cannot find a record of her birth, marriage to Harvey or death. Any help most welcome as we've reached a dead end!
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Hi morageckford, Have you looked on both sides of the border? ??? Pat
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Yes - friend I'm helping has looked everywhere!
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Is this a possibility from the IGI for a marriage/birth for Catherine
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XY6B-MLJ
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XT12-ZLL
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Thankyou very much for this CaroleW, I'll investigate.
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Have another look at the links above I have just realised I posted the marriage link twice instead of the birth link
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This is exciting - I wonder if we've found her at last. Not local to Kelso, as I suspected.
Thankyou for taking the trouble to do this.
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An IGI Parent search shows the following children born to Robert Sangster & Christian Gray - all in Belhelvie
Hoppy (honest) 24.1.1776
Katherain & Elizabeth both on 1.1.1773
John 15.2.1778
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Hoppy is Hope - submitted IGI entry
HOPE SANGSTER Spouse: ALEXANDER RIDDEL Marriage: 06 JUL 1799 New Machar, Aberdeen
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CaroleW that's amazing. Hope we can prove it's the right Catherine, mother of Lockhart Baillie.I don't suppose we'll ever find out how Lockhart's name came to be listed in the Bible of a family called Smith! That's where he was found.
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Lockhart Baillie was an Inland Revenue officer. He had three wives. Margaret Telfer, Margaret Blanchfield ( when he called himself Lockhart Harvey) and Margaret McLaren. One of those was the mother of Georgina and George Lockhart Baillie.
(Georgina was the name of the wife of the 10th Earl of Haddington, Lockhart's half-brother.) George Lockhart Baillie went on to found what is now the Royal County Down Golf Club.
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CaroleW, here's an update of information following your help.
I have looked at the handwritten announcement of Catherine's marriage to Robert Harvey and see it was witnessed by Andrew Murray Smith. A eureka moment! Lockhart Baillie's name was first found in a family Bible in the middle of a long list of......Smiths. One of them is Andrew Smith born later in 1811 so Andrew was a Smith family name.I think it's likely that Catherine, a farmer's daughter from Belhelvie went to the Borders to work, possibly in Mellerstain House, the almost-new home of George Baillie. She became pregnant by George, then 36 and unmarried, and had Lockhart in Kelso in 1799. On her own and far from Aberdeenshire she probably went home and the baby was brought up by Smith relatives. Seems a likely scenario.
Mellerstain is a Robert Adam mansion six miles from Kelso and would have been about ten years old then. It's still the Baillie-Hamilton family home and is open to the public. (There's a website.)
We've got this far by following up information you took the trouble to find - thankyou again.
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Hi
That's fantastic news - glad I could help in some way
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Hi, I am related to Robert Sangster and Christian Gray. Catherine has a twin sister Elizabeth, but unsure what happened to her. My direct line is through the son John Sangster, married 1. Elizabeth Barron. 2. Margaret McKenzie. I am more than happy to share this line. I am stuck with Robert and Christian, cannot find a marriage or death for either of them and so cannot confirm their births. The history re Catherine was facinating to read.
Cheer Jen
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I'm pleased to hear that you are interested in Catherine. We haven't been able to find out any more about her but keep hoping somebody will come up with more information!
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Has anyone come up with a reason why Lockhart Baillie is named in my Smith family bible? In it he is recorded as being born 8 July 1797 rather than 1799.
I can find no family connections to him.
There is also listed in the family bible a Jane Rutherford with no other information