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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Essex => Topic started by: collier19 on Friday 13 January 12 10:49 GMT (UK)
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Does anyone know the connection between Samuel Pepys and the Maryon family of Braintree/White Roding? I have just found a letter in a book about Samuel Pepys, from Rev Joseph Maryon while he was at Clare College, Cambridge and the author calls Maryon the cousin of Pepys.
Thanks
Honor
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"Sir, I humbly beg of you to desire him (for they are such intimate friends) to be earnest in my behalf ; else, they will only drink our healths, and contribute nothing to my assistance. Sir, I think it would be no ill policy to pretend that I have friends who could make a great interest in
court, if I did importune them to make use of it ; but this argument I leave to your prudence."
The above is taken from a letter from Joseph Maryton to Samuel Pepys, dated 14th August 1680.
The letter mentions no family relationship. Joseph Maryton is trying to secure funds for the treatment of Col. Popham's deaf and dumb child and the services of a doctor.
The whole letter can be found at :-
http://www.archive.org/stream/lifejournalscorr01pepyiala/lifejournalscorr01pepyiala_djvu.txt
It's just prior to halfway down the page.
Regards
Malky
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Hi
This seems to be Samuel Pepys family tree and there's no mention of Maryon or Maryton in it:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pepys/pepysons/pepys/index.htm#TOC
gnu
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Thanks for the help - I'll keep looking.
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If you go to the site, and place which I posted you will come across the letters to and from Samuel Pepys.
In the letter PEPYS TO DR. PEACHELL, dated August 28, 1680, Pepys states
" But my part is not to argue this matter, but to pay you my faithfullest thanks (which I do) for the part you have been pleased so kindly to perform on behalf of my friend Mr. Maryon[/b][/u]"
I then did a bit of speed reading and came across this,
PEPYS TO MR. S. MARYON, FELLOW OF CLARE HALL, CAMBRIDGE. August 10th, 1681.
"was also communicated by my cousin, Wynn Houblon", (who was the son of Sir James Houblon.)
Further along, Pepys writes
"But, indeed, cousin Maryon, I cannot be so self-partial as to pretend to it"
So there may be a link after all.
Regards
Malky (who has tried to sort the "bold" and "underlined" several times, but it's doing it's own thing.)
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Brilliant! Thank you so much.
Honor
The 'bold' is beautiful!!
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Pepys was at Magdelene College Cambridge in the early 1660s and so they were unlikely to have been contemporaries.
Most large reference libraries have a transcription of Samuel Pepys' Diary and most of these have a good index. It would be worthwhile looking at one of these for any references to Maryon including spelling variants. Be aware that the spellings of names in Pepys' diaries can be very different from what you might expect. For example the references to our ancestor Samuel Edlin are usually to Mr Eglin.
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I'm only going by memory buy I recall that there was a connection between the two families.
I have both in the family tree somewhere.
I know Rev Joseph Maryon's history as his wife is def. one of my lot.
Can't recall Pepy's connection but I believe that his wife was also connected. :-\
I'll check further if anyone's need clarification.
Di
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To much being made of the term ' cozen' as its meaning was wide and veried as far as Wills and letters go.
Quote Re Samuel Peppys:
Later that year, or in early 1655, he entered the household of another of his father's cousins, Sir Edward Montagu,
Edward Montagu, 1st Earl of Sandwich, KG (27 July 1625 – 28 May 1672) was an English Infantry officer who later became a naval officer. He was the only surviving son of Sir Sidney Montagu, by his wife Paulina Pepys of Cottenham ( great-aunt of Samuel Pepys) and was brought up at Hinchingbrooke House.
Joseph Maryon Married Magaret Crouch, follow her line back several generations and we get to another Margaret Crouch that Married Edward Montague
dare say the two Montague lines meet somewhere and hence I presume Dear Watsons we have ' cozens'
Clif.jade ( LOndon )
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I agree with Clif, except that it needs to be realized that the meeting of the two lines may only be through a marriage between the two families.