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Title: Lorna COOK/Lorna Rose COOK
Post by: JACKEROO on Wednesday 11 January 12 23:53 GMT (UK)
lorna cook or lorna rose cook, daughterof frederick cook and margaret doody,  possibly married a lionel norley, probably around the 1940's i also found alionel norley marreid a ethell emily kate miconi, in 1937, is it the same lionel norley, did lorna cook marry before lionel norley. this is in south australia,
or could there be 2 people with the sam ename lorna cook,
this is all i oculd find out, on lorna, iknow her parents, there is a articleo n a lionel and lorna norley having a child birth notice nothing more,
would appreciate anyhelp on this, thanks
Title: Re: Lorna COOK/Lorna Rose COOK
Post by: ennael on Thursday 12 January 12 00:01 GMT (UK)
www.naa.gov.au
search collection search as guest.
Has a digitised service document for Li*

Leanne
Title: Re: Lorna COOK/Lorna Rose COOK
Post by: JACKEROO on Thursday 12 January 12 00:04 GMT (UK)
will give it a go, this was sortof a mystery as i thought lorna had married lionel norely but a cousin thinks she may have amrried before the same as lionel did
Title: Re: Lorna COOK/Lorna Rose COOK
Post by: tedscout on Thursday 12 January 12 00:16 GMT (UK)
Seems Lional may have been on the HMAS Perth

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/48667374?searchTerm=lionel norley&searchLimits=
Title: Re: Lorna COOK/Lorna Rose COOK
Post by: JACKEROO on Thursday 12 January 12 00:20 GMT (UK)
yes he was thisis wehre it gets confusing, didhe marry ethel first divorce her and marry lorna cook
Title: Re: Lorna COOK/Lorna Rose COOK
Post by: tedscout on Thursday 12 January 12 00:25 GMT (UK)
I've been googling - he was a POW. I wonder what dates he was incarcerated. It may narrow down the dates he could have been around to be married?
Title: Re: Lorna COOK/Lorna Rose COOK
Post by: JACKEROO on Thursday 12 January 12 00:28 GMT (UK)
inoticed that too, maybe the first wife ethel left him or thought he was dead
Title: Re: Lorna COOK/Lorna Rose COOK
Post by: tedscout on Thursday 12 January 12 00:43 GMT (UK)
You could request his service record

http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/script/veteran.asp?ServiceID=N&VeteranID=1150728
Title: Re: Lorna COOK/Lorna Rose COOK
Post by: majm on Thursday 12 January 12 01:03 GMT (UK)
Well one set of Lional NORLEY's service records are digitised and freely available online via the National Archives of Australia's website.  There is also a set of POW records not yet digitised.

See Service no.  23551, born  30 Apr 1912 south Adelaide, SA, enlisted in Melbourne 1939 for 12 years, n o k : Margaret (possibly his mother ?????? )  His discharge date : 25 June 1950

http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/using/search/index.aspx


MY APOLOGIES, I am sorry,  Leanne, I seem to be duplicating your earlier post.   
www.naa.gov.au
search collection search as guest.
Has a digitised service document for Li*

Leanne

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Lorna COOK/Lorna Rose COOK
Post by: JACKEROO on Thursday 12 January 12 01:19 GMT (UK)
thank you something more i can look into and see what happened to the family
many thanks
Title: Re: Lorna COOK/Lorna Rose COOK
Post by: cando on Thursday 12 January 12 01:39 GMT (UK)
lorna cook or lorna rose cook, daughterof frederick cook and margaret doody,  possibly married a lionel norley, probably around the 1940's i also found alionel norley marreid a ethell emily kate miconi, in 1937, is it the same lionel norley, did lorna cook marry before lionel norley. this is in south australia,
or could there be 2 people with the sam ename lorna cook,
this is all i oculd find out, on lorna, iknow her parents, there is a articleo n a lionel and lorna norley having a child birth notice nothing more,
would appreciate anyhelp on this, thanks

I suggest you search TROVE using "lionel norley". A few interesting snippets.

The full details of the marriage would have helped ..

Marriage
NORLEY Lionel 24 years  Status Single  Father Thomas Burgess NORLEY
MICONI  Ethel Emily Kate  21 years Status Single Father Ivan John Charles MICONI
8 Feb 1937
At the Methodist Church, Brompton   Hin S 375/543


http://www.saghs.org.au/graves.htm
Newspaper death notices etc.
NORLEY  Lionel  Advertiser 1996
NORLEY Lorna Josephine 1976
Copy of notice available for a small fee.

Cemetry record for Lionel
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0jm8/

and Lorna Josephine
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0jma/

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: Lorna COOK/Lorna Rose COOK
Post by: tedscout on Thursday 12 January 12 01:42 GMT (UK)
Yes Margaret was his mother

and he arrived home after being a POW in 24/10/1945

He married Ethel in 1937 - 2 years before he enlisted.

Red post: Thanks for the marriage details Cando
Title: Re: Lorna COOK/Lorna Rose COOK
Post by: JACKEROO on Thursday 12 January 12 01:44 GMT (UK)
so could there be 2 lorna rose cooks , or maybe he did marry lorna nd divorce ethel one wil lnever know anohter mystery
Title: Re: Lorna COOK/Lorna Rose COOK
Post by: majm on Thursday 12 January 12 01:52 GMT (UK)
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so could there be 2


Jack,

Do you have the 1937 mc to confirm the information about Lionel IS the same chap that your own records links up to MOD TO DELETE NAME?    The Lionel Norley that Leanne and I have mentioned, he was still in the Navy until 1950.

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Lorna COOK/Lorna Rose COOK
Post by: tedscout on Thursday 12 January 12 01:55 GMT (UK)
Lorna JOSEPHINE Cook's parents were Albert Alfred William COOK and Alice Maude PYLE

Not the same as the ones Jack stated in original post

Removed: Person mentioned may still be alive  
Title: Re: Lorna COOK/Lorna Rose COOK
Post by: JACKEROO on Thursday 12 January 12 01:58 GMT (UK)
found a reference on ancestroy lionel norley marrying ethel emily kate miconni 18 february 1937 ,
Title: Re: Lorna COOK/Lorna Rose COOK
Post by: JACKEROO on Thursday 12 January 12 01:59 GMT (UK)
and trolling though the trove newspapers found a few birthnotices for norley, nee lorna cook 
Title: Re: Lorna COOK/Lorna Rose COOK
Post by: tedscout on Thursday 12 January 12 02:07 GMT (UK)
Removed: Parents of person who may still be alive and mentioned i a post I cannot remove
Title: Re: Lorna COOK/Lorna Rose COOK
Post by: JACKEROO on Thursday 12 January 12 02:08 GMT (UK)
thanks,
i appreicate your help often wonder why familyhistory can be difficult
Title: Re: Lorna COOK/Lorna Rose COOK
Post by: majm on Thursday 12 January 12 02:08 GMT (UK)
Jack,

Did you have a moment to read Cando's post at reply # 10 .... there's the full index of the 1937 marriage details, including ALL the reference numbers,  

I understand that Ancestry's index does not give ALL the reference numbers  ;)

Earlier threads which may provide some background information include :


http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,401741.0.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,522199.0.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,469792.0.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,425686.0.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,287961.0.html


Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Lorna COOK/Lorna Rose COOK
Post by: majm on Thursday 12 January 12 02:16 GMT (UK)
thanks,
i appreicate your help often wonder why familyhistory can be difficult

When did your (MODIFIED TO REMOVE NAME OF POSSIBLE LIVING PERSON) die? 
What information is on her death certificate about her marriage/s?

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Lorna COOK/Lorna Rose COOK
Post by: JACKEROO on Thursday 12 January 12 02:18 GMT (UK)
still trying to find out when lorna rose cook died
Title: Re: Lorna COOK/Lorna Rose COOK
Post by: majm on Thursday 12 January 12 02:24 GMT (UK)
MODIFIED to remove my quote of Jack's reply # 21 as it may well contain names of a living person

Is it possible that she is still living? 

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Lorna COOK/Lorna Rose COOK
Post by: JACKEROO on Thursday 12 January 12 02:30 GMT (UK)
could be i managed to trace a few living relatives in the cook side and the refused to imprt any information and did not want to know
Title: Re: Lorna COOK/Lorna Rose COOK
Post by: cando on Thursday 12 January 12 03:03 GMT (UK)
Births
COOK Lorna Josephine
Father Albert Edward William COOK  Mother Alice Maud PYLE
2 Nov 1913
At Unley  Ade 922/306

and I won't list Lorna Rose COOK's birth as she may be living.  By her year of birth I would imagine that she may not have married until post WW2 and those marriage records are not available in South Australia.

Perhaps you need to speak with your relative again.

Cando
Title: Re: Lorna COOK/Lorna Rose COOK
Post by: JACKEROO on Thursday 12 January 12 03:09 GMT (UK)
still trying ,
Title: Re: Lorna COOK/Lorna Rose COOK
Post by: tedscout on Thursday 12 January 12 03:09 GMT (UK)
So there are 2 Lorna'a - thank you Cando.

I have been tracking Ethel Emily Kate Miconi/Mikoni - not relevant here but fascinating all the same.

I cant find where she ended up though.

I don't think ?? ?? ?? ?? married Lionel Norley. I wonder who she did marry?
Title: Re: Lorna COOK/Lorna Rose COOK
Post by: JACKEROO on Thursday 12 January 12 03:16 GMT (UK)
i think a lorna josephine cook married lionel norley, andnot lorna rose norley, still leaves a mystery
Title: Re: Lorna COOK/Lorna Rose COOK
Post by: tedscout on Thursday 12 January 12 03:28 GMT (UK)
I think you mean ?? ?? ?? ?? ? - Jack.

My mother was a teenager during WW2. She is still alive but not very well. So ?? ??  could be still alive too. So we probably have to stop researching her on this site.

Good luck with your quest to find more out about her, and I hope you do get to talk to your newly found relative.

Good luck and God bless, Ted
Title: Re: Lorna COOK/Lorna Rose COOK
Post by: cando on Thursday 12 January 12 03:30 GMT (UK)
Deidre is basing her request on this newspaper announcement
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0jmh/

If the marriage occurred in South Australia post 1937 we cannot help you with any information.  Your person of interest could not have possibly married before this date.

It isn't a mystery.  The couple mentioned in the birth notice obviously married after the limit of publicly available records.  There is every possibility that your person of interest is still living.

I suggest you speak to your relative again.

Cando
Title: Re: Lorna COOK/Lorna Rose COOK
Post by: JACKEROO on Thursday 12 January 12 03:31 GMT (UK)
thanks
what is the lorna rose cook  jack
Title: Re: Lorna COOK/Lorna Rose COOK
Post by: majm on Thursday 12 January 12 04:34 GMT (UK)
Hi there Jack

You may not have been aware previously  that threads are easily found on any search engine searches .... BUT please simply accept that this is so... So please consider respecting the privacy of your person of interest.

Cheers JM
Title: Re: Lorna COOK/Lorna Rose COOK
Post by: tedscout on Thursday 12 January 12 04:49 GMT (UK)
I have edited my posts to protect the person who may still be alive.