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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Aberdeenshire => Topic started by: Bilcor1 on Wednesday 11 January 12 19:08 GMT (UK)
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Looking for info on above couple on son Johns marriage cert occ drifter fireman married 1930 age 21
parents John Buchan & Agnes Buchan ms Strachan cant find their marriage witness Helen Buchan same address in Peterhead
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Hi Bilcor1
There is this 1901 entry in the census transcript - you would need to double check the original as likely errors show on the transcript:
John Buchan 28, fisherman b. St Combs, Aberdeenshire
Agnes Buchan 9 (age is wrong), wife b. Carmbulg (?spl Cairnbulg), Aberdeenshire
Mary Hay Buchan 4 daughter b. Peterhead
Ellen Buchan 4 daughter b. Peterhead
Ellen Buchan 50, aunt, netmaker b. Peterhead
Ellen Noble 9 visitor b. Peterhead
Address: 18 Gladstone Rd, Peterhead
What is the occupation of John's father on his 1930 marriage? Have you tried find young John's entry on the 1911 census entry?
There is a marriage showing for a John Buchan and Agnes (not Strachan) in 1894 in Peterhead. Sometimes errors are made on marriage or death certs and you need to look elswhere for information. Like you, couldn't see a marriage with the bride as Strachan.
Monica :)
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Hi Monica
Saw the transcript of the family you mentioned on ancestry on his marriage cert occupation of father is fisherman I do know the info on certs is sometimes wrong so could be John Buchan & Agnes Buchan
There is 5 John Buchans in 1911 census the one i opened is wrong one John Buchan & Agnes King i know of family
Billy
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Hard to guess at Agnes' maiden name if the surname Strachan has gone down in error. Normally a check of the death cert for the person you are researching can help. Given the birth year, likely this date will be past the year that you can view images on line and would need to be ordered or viewed at one of the main centres/registrar's offices. Also, keep at the back of your mind that Agnes and Ann (and Nancy) are common first name variants.
The closest so far that I can see was that 1894 marriage that I mentioned earlier :-\
Monica
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Hi Monica
The parents of John Buchan b 1909 John Buchan & Agnes Buchan married 1894 got cert his parents Charles Gordon Buchan & Agnes Buchan & her parents John Buchan & Helen Strachan have them on PAF file so I'm sure thats them easy to make mistakes with so many Buchans
Thanks for your help
Billy
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Ok, understand now! Agnes from the 1894 marriage entry was also Buchan for surname. See that now from SP. So the Strachan surname was for the maternal grandmother.
You could look at the children's birth certs from that 1901 census entry and reconfirm details to make sure that the entry you have found is the correct one for 1901. This will also help you for finding the correct 1911 entry (you can use the second name option on SP for searches).
Monica
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Billy, was Helen Buchan the constant witness to siblings' weddings ::)
I have found an online A/try tree for one of the sisters, showing on that 1901 census entry I posted earlier.
Parents showing as you said, John B and Agnes B. Mary Hay Buchan married a John Drummond Ritichie in 1919 at the Wesleyan Methodist Church (what church did John Jnr marry at?). Mary Hay Buchan, 22, fishworker and living at 11 (?) Gladstone Road. Parents John and Agnes, witness Helen Buchan.
Also, this would be Agnes Buchan before her marriage:
Helen Strachan 74
Helen Buchan 49, daughter, fishworker b. Peterhead
Agnes Buchan 19, Grand Daur b. Rathen
Thomas Buchan 18
Agnes Noble 8
John Mair 17
Address: 23 Ronheads, Peterhead
Monica
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Hello Monica
Spot on I also got it on ancestry done by another person so that ties up the families John Jr married at same church Methodist in Queen St Peterhead
Thanks again
Billy
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Well done on solving that problem!
Buchan & Strachan are 2 very common surnames in Peterhead. :)
flst
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Peterhead Deaths 1941
No.61, Agnes Buchan, (Married to John Buchan Fisherman), died 1941 April Thirteenth 1h 0m AM at 14 Gladstone Road, Peterhead, female, age 69 years, parents: John Buchan (deceased) and Helen Buchan ms Strachan (deceased), cause: Valvular Disease of Heart, 21 days, Chronic Bronchitis 3 months, informant: John Buchan, Widower (Present).
Peterhead Deaths 1947
No.103, John Buchan Fisherman (Widower of Agnes Strachan), died 1947 September Twenty second 2h 0m PM at 14 Gladstone Road, Peterhead, male, age 75 years, parents: Charles Gordon Buchan, Fisherman (deceased) and Agnes Buchan ms Buchan (deceased), cause: Chronic Bronchitis, Myocarditis, informant: J.D. Ritchie, Son-in-law and Inmate.
Peterhead Births 1909
No.148, John Buchan, born 1909 April Eighth 7h AM at 86 Roanheads Peterhead, male, parents: John Buchan, Fisherman and Agnes Buchan ms Buchan, married 1894 October 4th Peterhead, informant: John Buchan, Father (present).
I also have a copy of the marriage certificate. This John Buchan would be my 4th Cousin 2x removed.
From deceasedonline website
Peterhead Cemetery Lair B142
name, Date of death
BUCHAN, Helen Buchan 11 Sep 1997
RITCHIE, Mary Hay 14 Oct 1982
RITCHIE, John Drummond 23 Jul 1967
BUCHAN, John 22 Sep 1947
BUCHAN, Agnes 13 Apr 1941
GREIG, (SBC of) 08 Mar 1931
BUCHAN, Alexina 04 Nov 1913
Lair B142 Constitution Street Cemetery, Peterhead (Constitution Street Memorial Inscriptions, Peterhead, CD, Complied by Mary Robertson 2009)
In loving memory of
Our dear parents
John D. Ritchie
Died 23rd July 1967
Aged 71 years
And
Mary Hay Buchan
Died 14th Oct 1982
Aged 85 years
“Till He come”
Plaque front of above
In loving memory of
Helen [Nellie] Ritchie
Called home 11th Sept 1997
In her 67th year
Dearly loved wife of the late
William Buchan
Lost aboard the “Quite Waters” 1954
A much loved mother of May
Mother-in-law of Steven and a devoted
Grandma of David, Paul, & Rachel
If you are interested I have more information on the Charles Gordon Buchan and Agnes Buchan branch. Agnes Buchan decends from the "White" and "Uncle" Buchan's of St.Combs and Corskelly, Lonmay going back to the early 1600's.
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Hi Cheekies Loon thenks very much for that info I've got quite alot of the same people on my tree
John Buchan is my 3rd cousin 2 times removed I think I have an idea fa ye are